Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-10-06 Thread carmen r
On Tue Sep 09, 2008 at 03:34:37PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote: > On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote: > > > On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > > > I hope you guys don't mind killing you

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-10-05 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote: > > On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > > I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner > > > than everyone else :) > > > >

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-10 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 10 September 2008, Previdi Roberto wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Al Johnson > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > > No loss of USE - see the Gentoo Embedded Handbook, in particular this > > page: > > > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/index.xml?part=1&cha >

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-10 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 10 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > Hi, > > I know that. Perfectly. It so happens that the whole point of using > Gentoo is to build your own binaries. If you're goind the pre-built > packages way, why not do it with someone who has more experience :) I may be telling

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-10 Thread Previdi Roberto
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > No loss of USE - see the Gentoo Embedded Handbook, in particular this page: > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/index.xml?part=1&chap=5 > Ok, i have read that document, i think you are referring to the pa

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-10 Thread David Samblas
LOOOL > I Love OpenMoko-Gentoo => O.M.G! > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community ma

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-10 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Hi, I know that. Perfectly. It so happens that the whole point of using Gentoo is to build your own binaries. If you're goind the pre-built packages way, why not do it with someone who has more experience :) This is why I said the only argument one could throw at me is one which is *against* usin

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-10 Thread zuber
> No loss of USE - see the Gentoo Embedded Handbook, in particular this > page: > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/index.xml?part=1&chap=5 > Interesting, need to read that :-) > You can do, but the bottleneck will then be linking which will happen > entirely on the phone. Thi

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread William Kenworthy
Even better might be to nfs mount all the important stuff - a PXE boot would be nice, but I havent the foggiest how to do this with uboot and wireless ... All the build directories, portage and maybe even the compiler and libs could be "elsewhere". BillK On Wed, 2008-09-10 at 03:58 +0200, Prev

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Previdi Roberto
generally speaking, i think that what this project is based upon is freedom of choice at the higest possible level, so having a possibility to try each different linux flavour (and maybe other oss) just go in that direction. I admit too that a sort of mainstream line is needed to push the developme

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread William Kenworthy
If that is so, then 2008.8 and debian will kill its just as fast. Read the docs - ITS NOT COMPILED ON THE FR BillK On Tue, 2008-09-09 at 07:25 -0700, Rodney Myers wrote: > On Sep 9, 2008, at 7:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 02:51:14PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seab

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Previdi Roberto
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 1:22 AM, Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > No loss of USE - see the Gentoo Embedded Handbook, in particular this page: > > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/index.xml?part=1&chap=5 > glad to hear, i will take a look tomorrow.. (too late here now)

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread William Kenworthy
I think he answered your question Rui - there is no reason gentoo will kill the flash any sooner than debian - unless its having up to date software :) There are a lot of misconceptions about gentoo, please research it before making rash statements (like I did about up to date software :) I find

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Andreas Zuber wrote: > Am Dienstag 09 September 2008 18:45:09 schrieb Previdi Roberto: > > Yes you can use gentoo with binary packages, but you loose the great > > configurability given by the tuning of the USE flags... i think it's > > better if i can manage to crossc

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Previdi Roberto
I was thinking to the same thing, but why don't let the neo's cpu collaborate? maybe with lower priority... i was thinking to mount the /usr/portage and /var/portage (where all the compiling take place) as network disk with nfs or something, and setting up distcc to compile first on the desktop and

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Andreas Zuber
Am Dienstag 09 September 2008 18:45:09 schrieb Previdi Roberto: > Yes you can use gentoo with binary packages, but you loose the great > configurability given by the tuning of the USE flags... i think it's better > if i can manage to crosscompile from my desktop, and then copy the > generated binar

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Rodney Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > With all of the thrashing, while it's attempting to compile > everything? that's what crosscompiling is for. nobody is going to use portage to compile from source on the phone itself. how you came to that conclusion is beyond me. best regards ... clemens

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Daniel Benoy
Does anyone have an overlay or something that lets you install illume, frameworkd, etc? On Monday 08 September 2008 20:59:22 Dennis.Yxun wrote: > HI Devs: > > As a die-hard Gentoo fans, I'd be happy to see someone > > deliver a Gentoo openmoko distribution which leverage the greatness of >

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Previdi Roberto
Yes you can use gentoo with binary packages, but you loose the great configurability given by the tuning of the USE flags... i think it's better if i can manage to crosscompile from my desktop, and then copy the generated binary on the moko. slower, but more flexible.. On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 5:28

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread David Samblas
You can allways use compiled package and avoid to compile anything on gentoo,, and due we all use almos the same machine is no sense to compile over and over again, only if you find that a packges is not already compliled you can do it your self and the share with the rest to avoid it. Regards Da

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread shawnzier
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 07:25:59AM -0700, Rodney Myers wrote: > On Sep 9, 2008, at 7:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 02:51:14PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: >>> On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui M

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Previdi Roberto
Sorry, i have to correct: the guide i am following is this one: http://gentoo-wiki.com/User:TuXXX On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Previdi Roberto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Following the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo guide i am trying to > build my system, but i will not test it until i

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Rodney Myers
On Sep 9, 2008, at 7:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 02:51:14PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote: On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread dennis
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra 写道: > Please, no distro-war, you're free to kill your flash devices sooner ;) > we cross-compile the package in our desktop, just like debian's distro then install the binary *.tbz2 into the FR. the goodness here is that we can leverage the dignity of gentoo package man

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread shawnzier
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 02:51:14PM +0100, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote: > > On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > > I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner > > > than everyone else

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:00:36PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote: > On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > > I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner > > than everyone else :) > > Why? Are you making some unwarranted assumptions about using Gentoo on

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Previdi Roberto
i was thinking about installing it completely on the external microsd, so there shouldn't be any problem of this sort.. but anyway.. dfu-util is always there :) and speaking about gentoo, i trust portage nearly as much as i trust "make".. roby On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Sea

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 09 September 2008, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner > than everyone else :) Why? Are you making some unwarranted assumptions about using Gentoo on embedded systems? > Rui > > On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:16:47PM +0200

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
I hope you guys don't mind killing your phone or uSD's memory sooner than everyone else :) Rui On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 12:16:47PM +0200, Previdi Roberto wrote: > Following the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo guide i am trying to > build my system, but i will not test it until i receive the 8

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-09 Thread Previdi Roberto
Following the http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo guide i am trying to build my system, but i will not test it until i receive the 8Gb memory card i ordered. I will surely send a report and maybe an image (where should i send it?) when something works.. 2008/9/9 Dennis. Yxun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-08 Thread Dennis . Yxun
someone already made this, I just haven't tried it, due to my poor network http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gentoo http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenMoko_under_QEMU_on_Gentoo On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 9:20 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ___ Openmoko communit

Re: Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-08 Thread shawnzier
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 08:59:22AM +0800, Dennis.Yxun wrote: > HI Devs: > > As a die-hard Gentoo fans, I'd be happy to see someone > > deliver a Gentoo openmoko distribution which leverage the greatness of > portage. > > Thank you, It's really great! > >I'm downloading stage now, but du

Glad to see Gentoo-openmoko distro

2008-09-08 Thread Dennis . Yxun
HI Devs: As a die-hard Gentoo fans, I'd be happy to see someone deliver a Gentoo openmoko distribution which leverage the greatness of portage. Thank you, It's really great! I'm downloading stage now, but due to my poor network, the download speed is quite low, and It about takes me 5Ds