Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-26 Thread Tilman Baumann
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: It is just one idea. I don't know how complicated it would be. (This would need the gsm driver to be in the kernel, but I assume it is.) It is not. *g* Receiving SMS is something the GSM unit makes almost autonomously. gsmd (the driver ;) )just reads the messa

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-26 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
If we don't need white/gray/black listing, we could look at the SMS'es as network trafikk. If we did that, we would think about a firewall and could block, drop or nat in iptables. This would only apply to phone numbers (single or defined groups) and we could specify what kind of trafic we would bl

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread ian douglas
Tilman Baumann wrote: Yea. But this is limited to a simple question 'was this call spam?'. What i mean was that you should have 'the list[tm]' that is automatically the right thing for you. Yes, I agree, it should be personalized to the user/phone, and being prompted after a call to specify s

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Tilman Baumann
ian douglas wrote: Tilman Baumann wrote: In my eyes, trust should be calculated automaticly, not by manually defining trust (like pgp). Using the system could improve it. Perhaps number of successful phone calls, and length of phone call to add a number of trust 'points' ... the more successf

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread ian douglas
Tilman Baumann wrote: In my eyes, trust should be calculated automaticly, not by manually defining trust (like pgp). Using the system could improve it. Perhaps number of successful phone calls, and length of phone call to add a number of trust 'points' ... the more successful calls over some

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Joseph Booker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cell phones can be placed on the do-not-call list? It's already illegal > for telemarketers to call you on one (since you would be paying for > unsolicited advertising). Well if they are calling, you still need your own

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Tilman Baumann
Heikki Sørum wrote: This could at least be mitigated by _not_ using different spamtags and by defaulting the Moko's behavior to only display warnings rather than silently ignore. In addition they contact list in Bob's and Alice's could work as a whitelist. Any other suggestions on how to

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Joseph Booker
On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 15:11:14 -0700 "Shawn Rutledge" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your caller ID is blocked or turned off. If you > are a telemarketer, please be warned that we are registered with the > national Do-Not-Call list and do not wish to receive marketing > messages of any kind. Otherwi

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Heikki Sørum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > from Matilda in Canned Meat Marketing. Matilda has created an software > system that automates calling and displays a unknown caller ID, then ... > 3rd party ruggedized Moko Case!) he tags the calling ID with "Deceptive >

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Antoine Reid
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 4:47 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Heikki Sørum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Hi everyone! Today I got another proposal for useful > > applications that would make an open mobile outshine > > "oldsch00l" mobiles. > > Wh

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread kenneth marken
On Monday 25 February 2008 22:39:04 ian douglas wrote: > Being able to do this within OpenMoko would be pretty slick too, though > you won't really gain anything by marking SMS messages as spam -- you're > still paying for the incoming message whether to tag it as spam or not, > you'd only have the

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Steven Kurylo
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Heikki Sørum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi everyone! Today I got another proposal for useful > applications that would make an open mobile outshine > "oldsch00l" mobiles. While I've never thought of taking it that far, this is one of the prime reasons I will be

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread ian douglas
Heikki Sørum wrote: In my ideal world: Alice gets a OpenMoko, and then starts getting annoying calls from Peach Corporation that would like to sell here an Peach M-Phone. As Alice dislikes Peach Corporation, she tags any sms/mms and caller ID's with a "Marketing Call" tag. One of my favorite f

How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Heikki Sørum
Hi everyone! Today I got another proposal for useful applications that would make an open mobile outshine "oldsch00l" mobiles. The leader of the Norwegian EFF chapter posted som days in frustration a question whether there was any kind of blacklisting/spam filtering capabilities for SMS/Phonecall