RE: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-28 Thread Niels Heyvaert
>>> And it's all fine and dandy if it wasn't so damn easy to casually change >>> the mic volume into some unusable mode. One setting works a lot better >>> (at least for me) and I only need to check it after upgrades! >>> >>> Rui >>> >> Hi Rui, >> >> Can you put your sound settings on the Wiki too

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-28 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Em 17-03-2010 20:54, Niels Heyvaert escreveu: >> And it's all fine and dandy if it wasn't so damn easy to casually change >> the mic volume into some unusable mode. One setting works a lot better >> (at least for me) and I only need to check it after upgrades! >> >> Rui >> > Hi Rui, > > Can you pu

RE: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-17 Thread Niels Heyvaert
> > And it's all fine and dandy if it wasn't so damn easy to casually change > the mic volume into some unusable mode. One setting works a lot better > (at least for me) and I only need to check it after upgrades! > > Rui > Hi Rui, Can you put your sound settings on the Wiki too? Just so that ot

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-17 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Em 16-03-2010 06:23, Timo Jyrinki escreveu: > 2010/3/16 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra : > '> You may call my tests misinformation, but I'll calmly go on with usable >> sound settings with which I can be heard even from a noisy restaurant by >> *NOT*USING* the "Correct" setting. > > I am not claiming the

RE: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-16 Thread Niels Heyvaert
> To give some more non-theoretical vibe to this thread, I started a new > empirical mic data table at > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_Freerunner_audio_subsystem#Empirical_Data_for_Mic_Settings > - it's probable it will not be that helpful in searching any "one > true" defaults, but it might b

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-16 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/3/16 Neil Jerram : > I have to support Rui here.  I find this over-theoretical argument > really annoying. Sorry about that, and sorry about the term "misinformation" I used in the first post. > Do you understand 100% the operation of the Wolfson codec? No. But I do believe Jöerg has better

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-16 Thread Al Johnson
On Tuesday 16 March 2010, Neil Jerram wrote: > On 16 March 2010 06:23, Timo Jyrinki wrote: > > 2010/3/16 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra : > > '> You may call my tests misinformation, but I'll calmly go on with > > usable > > > >> sound settings with which I can be heard even from a noisy restaurant by >

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-16 Thread Neil Jerram
On 16 March 2010 10:21, Neil Jerram wrote: > So, please could we have a bit more respect for people's empirical findings? I should add that I'm aware that you, Timo, are a long time contributor here, and personally I greatly appreciate your contributions, especially with the non-debug kernel con

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-16 Thread Neil Jerram
On 16 March 2010 06:23, Timo Jyrinki wrote: > 2010/3/16 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra : > '> You may call my tests misinformation, but I'll calmly go on with usable >> sound settings with which I can be heard even from a noisy restaurant by >> *NOT*USING* the "Correct" setting. > > I am not claiming the

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-15 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2010/3/16 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra : '> You may call my tests misinformation, but I'll calmly go on with usable > sound settings with which I can be heard even from a noisy restaurant by > *NOT*USING* the "Correct" setting. I am not claiming the "wrong" settings would not help. The main thing is th

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-15 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Em 13-03-2010 17:48, Timo Jyrinki escreveu: > Mic Sidetone Mux: 'Mic 2' = the correct setting, please try to not > spread misinformation that it'd be wrong simply because it happens to > also increase the volume and therefore buzzing as well if other > settings are high > Mic 2: '3' (= 0dB) > Mono

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-15 Thread Bastian Muck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 15.03.2010 08:16, schrieb Dr. Michael Lauer: > Well, former Openmoko CEO of marketing always said there is one state > file to rule them all - does that hold no longer? > It was never like this. I always hat do edit the state-files. Even the micvo

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-15 Thread Al Johnson
On Monday 15 March 2010, Dr. Michael Lauer wrote: > Well, former Openmoko CEO of marketing always said there is one state > file to rule them all - does that hold no longer? I don't think it ever did, no matter what anyone may have said. Person to person variations are enough to make this so in t

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-15 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 15.03.2010 um 08:16 schrieb Dr. Michael Lauer: > Well, former Openmoko CEO of marketing always said there is one state > file to rule them all - does that hold no longer? Yes, storing the device type and modifications in one file *is one state file* that rules all the detailled settings :)

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-15 Thread Dr. Michael Lauer
Well, former Openmoko CEO of marketing always said there is one state file to rule them all - does that hold no longer? Cheers, :M: Am 15.03.2010 um 06:45 schrieb "Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller" : > > Am 14.03.2010 um 23:42 schrieb Ben Wilson: > >> > Just my two cents. I think at this point di

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-14 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 14.03.2010 um 23:42 schrieb Ben Wilson: > Just my two cents. I think at this point distributions' defaults should be towards A7 users, since all new users are anyway A7 users and A5/A6 owners by now are surely aware of the ALSA setting problematics. >>> Hi, >>> >>> If

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-14 Thread Ben Wilson
>>> Just my two cents. I think at this point distributions' defaults >>> should be towards A7 users, since all new users are anyway A7 users >>> and A5/A6 owners by now are surely aware of the ALSA setting >>> problematics. >>> >> Hi, >> >> If it really depends on the Ax model I think they

RE: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-14 Thread Niels Heyvaert
>> >> Just my two cents. I think at this point distributions' defaults >> should be towards A7 users, since all new users are anyway A7 users >> and A5/A6 owners by now are surely aware of the ALSA setting >> problematics. > > Hi, > > If it really depends on the Ax model I think they should be som

Re: Comparing A5 and A7 sound settings

2010-03-13 Thread Łukasz Pankowski
Timo Jyrinki writes: > Hi, > > I just bought myself A7+ FreeRunner since my A5 started to have its > USB port breaking, buzz fix faltering, display problematic, plastic > case pins broken etc. (1,5+ years of very heavy use:)). I just noticed > that A7 requires much lower microphone settings than