RE: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-14 Thread Dean Collins
To: community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Sun JavaFx Marco Miani wrote: Hi I've just read this http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19entry_id=163 10 about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will be presented soon WTF it's a Neo

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-11 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 5/10/07, Jim Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile Embedded wrote: Shawn, I have been very involved in this area at Sun now for a couple of years. Let me add come comments: Hardware accelerated Java is actually fairly common already, at least in the

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-11 Thread Jim Thompson
Shawn, I'm more than happy to engage and debate these points, but its likely off-topic (or at least not in scope) for the list (which is about openmoko and/or the community that surrounds openmoko). Topics such as: why is Java slow (and how to construct hw to make it go fast concurrency

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Jim Thompson writes: aren't related (much) to openmoko, so I suggest we take these off-line, unless 'the list' decides they would rather watch/join the discussion here. (And yes, I agree that I contributed to the discussion going off-track.) I for one have been interested (decades ago I was

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Sander van Grieken
I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of Savaje platform (+ JavaFX scripting). That's correct. This is going to be very cool stuff. And the Neo is definitely very high on the list of devices I want to see this running on. If I understand correctly, JavaFX Script is going to be open

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Jim Thompson
Sander van Grieken wrote: I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of Savaje platform (+ JavaFX scripting). That's correct. This is going to be very cool stuff. And the Neo is definitely very high on the list of devices I want to see this running on. If I understand correctly, JavaFX Script

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Sander van Grieken
Sander van Grieken wrote: I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of Savaje platform (+ JavaFX scripting). That's correct. This is going to be very cool stuff. And the Neo is definitely very high on the list of devices I want to see this running on. If I understand correctly, JavaFX

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Sander van Grieken
Sander van Grieken wrote: I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of Savaje platform (+ JavaFX scripting). That's correct. This is going to be very cool stuff. And the Neo is definitely very high on the list of devices I want to see this running on. If I understand correctly, JavaFX

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Jim Thompson
Sander van Grieken wrote: Sander van Grieken wrote: I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of Savaje platform (+ JavaFX scripting). That's correct. This is going to be very cool stuff. And the Neo is definitely very high on the list of devices I want to see this running on. If I understand

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Jim Thompson
I know its bad form to respond to one's own posting, but watch the end of the 'webcast' around the 15:00 mark, just after McNealy gets up to talk about Curriki, and then compares Rich Green to Jobs, where Jonathan Schwartz turns to ask Rich Green: JS: Rich, how would you feel about someone

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Sander van Grieken
Does this mean there will be non-open sourced parts in the stack necessary to use JavaFX Script? Sun has already said that JavaFX Mobile (the stuff you need for the phone) will be GPLed. So.. no. Well, this is not exactly true. Sun indeed said explicitly that JavaFX-Script will be GPLd,

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile Embedded
Shawn, I have been very involved in this area at Sun now for a couple of years. Let me add come comments: Hardware accelerated Java is actually fairly common already, at least in the Java ME space using ARM's Jazelle technology. It does have some benefits in very constrained platforms but in

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Jim Thompson
Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile Embedded wrote: Shawn, I have been very involved in this area at Sun now for a couple of years. Let me add come comments: Hardware accelerated Java is actually fairly common already, at least in the Java ME space using ARM's Jazelle technology. It does

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-09 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
2007/5/8, Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 08/05/07, Marco Miani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I've just read this http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19entry_id=16310 about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will be presented soon WTF it's a Neo Now that's

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-09 Thread Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile Embedded
Stefano Sanna wrote: Marco Miani wrote: Hi I've just read this http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19entry_id=16310 about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will be presented soon WTF it's a Neo somebody knows something more ? I think

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-08 Thread Stefano Sanna
Marco Miani wrote: Hi I've just read this http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19entry_id=16310 about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will be presented soon WTF it's a Neo somebody knows something more ? I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of