Re: [debian/zhone] Send an SMS

2008-09-25 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Donnerstag, den 25.09.2008, 23:20 +0200 schrieb Neil Jerram: 2008/9/25 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Am Donnerstag, den 25.09.2008, 12:29 +0100 schrieb Neil Jerram: Is it possible to send an SMS (aka text message) in debian/zhone? If so, how? I couldn't work out how

Re: Sending SMS: python

2008-09-18 Thread Luca
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 4:47 AM, Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marcel wrote: Am Wednesday 17 September 2008 21:45:16 schrieb Luca: I don't know about frameworkd on ASU, but you could simply flashing the FSO image. It should be possible using gsm0710muxd as at interface in

Re: Sending SMS: python

2008-09-17 Thread Luca
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know about the situation on the other stacks, but FSO (freesmartphone.org) is a project to imlement the fso specifications of an API for access to the device's hardware. Maybe you can somehow interface with qpe which

Re: Sending SMS: python

2008-09-17 Thread Marcel
Am Wednesday 17 September 2008 21:45:16 schrieb Luca: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know about the situation on the other stacks, but FSO (freesmartphone.org) is a project to imlement the fso specifications of an API for access to the device's

Re: Sending SMS: python

2008-09-17 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Marcel wrote: Am Wednesday 17 September 2008 21:45:16 schrieb Luca: I don't know about frameworkd on ASU, but you could simply flashing the FSO image. It should be possible using gsm0710muxd as at interface in qtopia. Isn't it? Some weeks ago I got something like that... -- Treviño's World

Sending SMS: python

2008-09-16 Thread Luca
I all. I'm looking for a common method to send SMS using python on the ASU release. Is the example of the SMSTool good or deprecated? I also read about pygsmd but seems unsupported. Other suggestion really welcome! -- -- luca ___ Openmoko community

Re: Sending SMS: python

2008-09-16 Thread Luca
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For such things I would redirect you to FSO which has the dbus framework, but I doubt the frameworkd being available for 2008.8... I don't really understand what FSO is, sorry! So there's no way to do this? As I read now the use

Re: Sending SMS: python

2008-09-16 Thread Marcel
Am Tuesday 16 September 2008 20:54:30 schrieb Luca: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For such things I would redirect you to FSO which has the dbus framework, but I doubt the frameworkd being available for 2008.8... I don't really understand what FSO is,

Re: import/export sms from qtopia

2008-09-14 Thread Vikas Saurabh
Ahhbut that seems to be too late for me. I already have information on my current image. I was wondering if I could somehow extract the info from the backup and put it into the current one. I just did this on my install, and it was as simple as copying my backup back to the phone. BTW, I

import/export sms from qtopia

2008-09-13 Thread Vikas Saurabh
Hi, I had to reflash my 2008.8 installation. I wanted to keep the data so I backed the home directory. Now, I have an up and satisfactorily working image. I want to import the data (specifically sent and received sms'es) in the old image. I tried to search wiki for qtmail, sms, etc but didn't

Re: QTopia 4.3.2 resume on incomming SMS bug

2008-09-01 Thread Holger Freyther
On Monday 01 September 2008 02:44:47 Lorn Potter wrote: zecke: The fix for this seems to be this: Looks like http://git.openmoko.org/?p=qtopia.git;a=commit;h=a11f4b79b057a5bf219c80abf27bd2d57c67ae5f The only difference is that our log message still says 'W' while we handled the Notification

Re: QTopia 4.3.2 resume on incomming SMS bug

2008-08-31 Thread Clemens Kirchgatterer
Daniel Selinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing i recognized is, when receiving an sms while in suspend, the phone resumes, but doesn't notify me about an incoming sms, and when i go to the messaging app, there is nothing new in the inbox. In fact i know 'something' arrived, because

Re: QTopia 4.3.2 resume on incomming SMS bug

2008-08-31 Thread Thomas B.
On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:16:14AM +0200, Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote: Daniel Selinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing i recognized is, when receiving an sms while in suspend, the phone resumes, but doesn't notify me about an incoming sms, and when i go to the messaging app

Re: QTopia 4.3.2 resume on incomming SMS bug

2008-08-31 Thread Lorn Potter
Thomas B. wrote: On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 11:16:14AM +0200, Clemens Kirchgatterer wrote: Daniel Selinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only thing i recognized is, when receiving an sms while in suspend, the phone resumes, but doesn't notify me about an incoming sms, and when i go

QTopia 4.3.2 resume on incomming SMS bug

2008-08-28 Thread Daniel Selinger
. Resume works perfectly with calls. The only thing i recognized is, when receiving an sms while in suspend, the phone resumes, but doesn't notify me about an incoming sms, and when i go to the messaging app, there is nothing new in the inbox. In fact i know 'something' arrived, because the phone woke up

Re: Garbled SMS messages with OM2008.8?

2008-08-23 Thread Nishit Dave
On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Vibhav Sharma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lorn Potter wrote: Matthew Lane wrote: Tim Erwin wrote: So what do you mean by 'Qtopia being silly' ??? Does it have something to do with Zecke's cautionary message (#68, 69?) in trac #1766? About ghost messages

Re: Garbled SMS messages with OM2008.8?

2008-08-22 Thread Vibhav Sharma
I only get garbled messages from my service provider. This is when I miss a call and I should get a SMS to say that I have voice mail message please cal 212 but with the qtopia 080808 image I get a similar garbled result. Regards, Tim I also get garbled text messages

Re: Re: Garbled SMS messages with OM2008.8?

2008-08-19 Thread Matthew Lane
. This is when I miss a call and I should get a SMS to say that I have voice mail message please cal 212 but with the qtopia 080808 image I get a similar garbled result. Regards, Tim I also get garbled text messages sometimes. Usually a great deal of them, that make no sense

Re: Garbled SMS messages with OM2008.8?

2008-08-19 Thread Lorn Potter
my service provider. This is when I miss a call and I should get a SMS to say that I have voice mail message please cal 212 but with the qtopia 080808 image I get a similar garbled result. Regards, Tim I also get garbled text messages sometimes. Usually a great deal of them

Garbled SMS messages with OM2008.8?

2008-08-18 Thread Warren Baird
I've been running OM2008.8 on my freerunner for a little over a week now. For about a week, SMS's worked fine, but for the last few days the SMSs I receive have been garbled - a mixture of characters like ?Èù¥£ì Any one have any ideas what might cause this, or what I can do to fix it? Warren

Re: Garbled SMS messages with OM2008.8?

2008-08-18 Thread Holger Freyther
://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1728, provide the output of logread (if these SMS are not private... or send special SMS), and make sure you do not run gsmd and qpe... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org

Re: Garbled SMS messages with OM2008.8?

2008-08-18 Thread Lorn Potter
Please see https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1728, provide the output of logread (if these SMS are not private... or send special SMS), and make sure you do not run gsmd and qpe... I have seen this as well, I will get Rhys to look at it. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems

Re: Garbled SMS messages with OM2008.8?

2008-08-18 Thread Tim Erwin
and I should get a SMS to say that I have voice mail message please cal 212 but with the qtopia 080808 image I get a similar garbled result. Regards, Tim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-11 Thread Tim Erwin
If the phone is in standby, and I receive a text message, the phone wakes up but does not receive a text message. The person sending the message does, however, receive a delivery report. This occurs in both images as well. This is now fixed in the latest qtopia image 080808 (haven't tried the

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-09 Thread Thomas B.
the following: I can receive SMS messages perfectly whilst the phone is on, in qtopia. Not always so well in the GTK stack. If the phone is in standby, and I receive a text message, the phone wakes up but does not receive a text message. The person sending the message does, however, receive

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-08 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Bruce Adams schrieb: I've had the impression, on other phones, that the GSM network could successfully deliver a message into the SIM card inside my phone, but if the phone software was too distracted to hear the initial notification from the SIM card about the new message, the phone

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-07 Thread Gianluigi
Alle 04:04, giovedì 7 agosto 2008, Robert William Hutton ha scritto: 5. In the meantime the network has accepted that the SMS can't be sent, and puts it into some kind of wait queue. Is not possible, after the GSM is fully up, say to the network I'm ready, is something waiting for me? -- We

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-07 Thread Bruce Adams
have to admit I have zero depth of knowledge about SMS, GSM or SIM cards. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

SMS problem

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
I just tried sending myself an SMS under ASU (updated from downloads.openmoko.org yesterday) and something strange is happening. I don't see my text messages, and I'm getting a lot of this in my logs: Aug 7 18:54:30 lisa user.notice root: AtChat : T : AT+CMGL=4 Aug 7 18:54:30 lisa

Re: SMS problem

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
Maybe this explains it? Recently: I had 3 messages. I deleted 2 of them. I get another message, and it looks for message number 4, even though this is message number 2 now? On Thursday 07 August 2008 19:02:21 Daniel Benoy wrote: I just tried sending myself an SMS under ASU (updated from

Re: SMS problem

2008-08-07 Thread Daniel Benoy
Bug submitted https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1757 On Thursday 07 August 2008 19:02:21 Daniel Benoy wrote: Aug  7 18:54:30 lisa user.notice root: AtChat :  T : AT+CMGL=4 Aug  7 18:54:30 lisa user.notice root: AtChat :  F : +CMS ERROR: 321 Aug  7 18:54:30 lisa user.notice root: AtChat :  

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-07 Thread W.Kenworthy
This is what seems to happen for me on 2007.2 on the Oz vodafone network. Sent an sms (didnt ask for rx) to the phone after it had been in dimlock for a couple of hours. No indication of message - phone didnt wakeup. On actually waking phone, by pressing pwr button some 10 minutes after

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-06 Thread Gianluigi
Alle 00:17, mercoledì 6 agosto 2008, Tim Coggins ha scritto: I can confirm this; it's been happening for the last week or so. Tim This is also for me. I use gtk and massages (not all) can be recived after hours or days. My TLC is Vodafone (italy) -- Romulan women are not like Vulcan

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-06 Thread Robert William Hutton
. The network attempts to send an SMS to your phone. 2. The GSM chip receives notification from the network that there's an SMS. 3. The GSM chip says to the network: wait, I'm temporarily unable to receive (as the phone's asleep) and wakes up the system. 4. The system comes up and waits. 5. In the meantime

receiving SMS messages

2008-08-05 Thread Dan Weatherill
I recently received my freerunner, and am enjoying it so far! I have mainly been using the qtopia image from qtopia.net, but have been regularly updating my kernel from buildhost.openmoko.org. On doing some testing, I find the following: I can receive SMS messages perfectly whilst the phone

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-05 Thread Tim Coggins
updating my kernel from buildhost.openmoko.org. On doing some testing, I find the following: I can receive SMS messages perfectly whilst the phone is on, in qtopia. Not always so well in the GTK stack. If the phone is in standby, and I receive a text message, the phone wakes up but does not receive

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-05 Thread Vince M. Clark
community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2008 4:17:09 PM (GMT-0700) America/Denver Subject: Re: receiving SMS messages I can confirm this; it's been happening for the last week or so. Tim On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Dan Weatherill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I

Re: receiving SMS messages

2008-08-05 Thread Tim Erwin
Are you able to send OK with the Qtopia image? I can receive but not send. Could be an issue with my provider which is T-Mobile. Haven't tested receiving in suspend vs. awake mode but will try it. I can send txt messages with the Qtopia image with Virgin mobile (Optus network) in Australia,

Re: Removing SMS Messages from OM

2008-08-03 Thread Holger Freyther
On Saturday 02 August 2008 02:33:22 Ken Restivo wrote: I've asked several times where ASU stores its SMS messages, and never got any straight answer. Where does it store them? In .evolution or in a different place? Different place, use the QMailStore API of Qtopia to access it or the Ad-Hoc

Re: Removing SMS Messages from OM

2008-08-02 Thread Benedikt Schindler
Ken Restivo schrieb: On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 08:45:28PM +0100, David Pottage wrote: They are in: ~/.evolution/memos/local/system/journal.ics I've asked several times where ASU stores its SMS messages, and never got any straight answer. Where does it store them

Removing SMS Messages from OM

2008-08-01 Thread John Whitmore
SMS messages in my OM phone :-( Never thought that would happen. OK what was I thinking, but could somebody tell me where the OM stores it's SMS's and can I delete them? Secondly I have a few problems which I think are probably fixed in a later version of SW. I was trying to do the Getting

Re: Removing SMS Messages from OM

2008-08-01 Thread David Pottage
I've got a load of my friend's SMS messages in my OM phone :-( Never thought that would happen. OK what was I thinking, but could somebody tell me where the OM stores it's SMS's and can I delete them? They are in: ~/.evolution/memos/local/system/journal.ics Hope this helps

Re: Removing SMS Messages from OM

2008-08-01 Thread John Whitmore
it's a SIM issue, but now I've got a load of my friend's SMS messages in my OM phone :-( Never thought that would happen. OK what was I thinking, but could somebody tell me where the OM stores it's SMS's and can I delete them? They are in: ~/.evolution/memos/local/system

Re: Removing SMS Messages from OM

2008-08-01 Thread Ken Restivo
to see if that worked. It did, so that I know it's a SIM issue, but now I've got a load of my friend's SMS messages in my OM phone :-( Never thought that would happen. OK what was I thinking, but could somebody tell me where the OM stores it's SMS's and can I delete them

How do you reply to an sms in 2007.2?

2008-07-28 Thread William Kenworthy
How do you reply to an sms in 2007.2? Does not seem to be possible. Is there any user documentation for the various standard apps? - they are not all that intuitive! BillK -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko

Re: How do you reply to an sms in 2007.2?

2008-07-28 Thread Kalle Happonen
Hit the pen (lower right) when you have the message open.. Kalle William Kenworthy wrote: How do you reply to an sms in 2007.2? Does not seem to be possible. Is there any user documentation for the various standard apps? - they are not all that intuitive! BillK

Re: How do you reply to an sms in 2007.2?

2008-07-28 Thread Jeffrey Ratcliffe
2008/7/28 Kalle Happonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hit the pen (lower right) when you have the message open.. It doesn't give you a warm feeling that that is going to work when the to: number field is blank. Regards Jeff ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: How do you reply to an sms in 2007.2?

2008-07-28 Thread reaper527
that is in unknown user. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/How-do-you-%22reply%22-to-an-sms-in-2007.2--tp586544p586634.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

Re: How do you reply to an sms in 2007.2?

2008-07-28 Thread Bastian Muck
if it is a known contact, and you don't reply to the copy of the | message that is in unknown user. | But keep in mind that always the first number, which was stored for this contact, is chosen by default. I often sent a sms to a landline number. Greetings Bastian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version

Re: SMS

2008-07-27 Thread David Pottage
On Saturday 26 July 2008 22:15:54 David Pottage wrote: The SMS applet on my phone is doing the same. If I try to start it from the command line. I get 4 coppies of the error message: Gtk-WARNING **:gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -11 and height -11

Re: SMS

2008-07-27 Thread stef
Charles-Henri Gros wrote: hello, i've got my freerunner since thursday and it works quite fine except the SMS applet. At first I could open the applet and send messages but now it fails. When I try to start the applet it seems to be loading but it stops after a while. Is there any way

Re: SMS

2008-07-27 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
On Sunday 27 July 2008, David Pottage wrote: /rant I second this. I have tried twice to start a thread...no response On a separate note, does anyone know where in the filing system the received messages are stored, as I would like to write a script to parse them. Grepping the entire filing

SMS

2008-07-26 Thread stef
hello, i've got my freerunner since thursday and it works quite fine except the SMS applet. At first I could open the applet and send messages but now it fails. When I try to start the applet it seems to be loading but it stops after a while. Is there any way to fix it or to reinstall the applet

Re: SMS

2008-07-26 Thread Charles-Henri Gros
stef wrote: hello, i've got my freerunner since thursday and it works quite fine except the SMS applet. At first I could open the applet and send messages but now it fails. When I try to start the applet it seems to be loading but it stops after a while. Is there any way to fix

Re: SMS

2008-07-26 Thread David Pottage
On Saturday 26 July 2008 07:53:01 stef wrote: hello, i've got my freerunner since thursday and it works quite fine except the SMS applet. At first I could open the applet and send messages but now it fails. When I try to start the applet it seems to be loading but it stops after a while

Re: SMS

2008-07-26 Thread David Pottage
On Saturday 26 July 2008 22:15:54 David Pottage wrote: The SMS applet on my phone is doing the same. If I try to start it from the command line. I get 4 coppies of the error message: Gtk-WARNING **:gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate widget with width -11 and height -11 I have

Re: SMS

2008-07-26 Thread Pawel Kowalak
On 2008-07-26, at 23:20, David Pottage wrote: On Saturday 26 July 2008 22:15:54 David Pottage wrote: The SMS applet on my phone is doing the same. If I try to start it from the command line. I get 4 coppies of the error message: Gtk-WARNING **:gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt

Re: SMS

2008-07-26 Thread Matthew Lane
Charles-Henri Gros wrote: stef wrote: hello, i've got my freerunner since thursday and it works quite fine except the SMS applet. At first I could open the applet and send messages but now it fails. When I try to start the applet it seems to be loading but it stops after a while

Re: Issues / Quirks with SMS via GUI (Messages app)

2008-07-20 Thread Matthew Lane
Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi Matthew, Am Freitag, den 18.07.2008, 13:40 -0400 schrieb Matthew Lane: Second, this is more of a major issue but I am not sure if it's carrier-related or a problem with the phone's Message software itself. When attempting to send a text message, I cannot

Re: Issues / Quirks with SMS via GUI (Messages app)

2008-07-19 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi Matthew, Am Freitag, den 18.07.2008, 20:55 -0400 schrieb Matthew Lane: Joachim Breitner wrote: Am Freitag, den 18.07.2008, 13:40 -0400 schrieb Matthew Lane: Also, the majority of my text messages are inserted into the Unknown Sender contact, because some carriers append a 1 at the

Re: Issues / Quirks with SMS via GUI (Messages app)

2008-07-19 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi Matthew, Am Freitag, den 18.07.2008, 13:40 -0400 schrieb Matthew Lane: Second, this is more of a major issue but I am not sure if it's carrier-related or a problem with the phone's Message software itself. When attempting to send a text message, I cannot send a message to a number

Issues / Quirks with SMS via GUI (Messages app)

2008-07-18 Thread Matthew Lane
Hey all, I have a few issues / quirks with the Messages app in sending and reading SMS messages. First, a problem I noticed was that when switching to the middle option in the Messages program (where the FR lists all text messages) was extremely slow. The whole program would lock up (I could

Re: Issues / Quirks with SMS via GUI (Messages app)

2008-07-18 Thread Matthew Lane
Matthew Lane wrote: Hey all, I have a few issues / quirks with the Messages app in sending and reading SMS messages. First, a problem I noticed was that when switching to the middle option in the Messages program (where the FR lists all text messages) was extremely slow. The whole

Re: Issues / Quirks with SMS via GUI (Messages app)

2008-07-18 Thread Bob Frank
at 4:41 PM, Matthew Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Lane wrote: Hey all, I have a few issues / quirks with the Messages app in sending and reading SMS messages. First, a problem I noticed was that when switching to the middle option in the Messages program (where the FR lists

Re: Issues / Quirks with SMS via GUI (Messages app)

2008-07-18 Thread Matthew Lane
anything. On Fri, Jul 18, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Matthew Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew Lane wrote: Hey all, I have a few issues / quirks with the Messages app in sending and reading SMS messages. First, a problem I noticed

Re: Issues / Quirks with SMS via GUI (Messages app)

2008-07-18 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Freitag, den 18.07.2008, 13:40 -0400 schrieb Matthew Lane: Second, this is more of a major issue but I am not sure if it's carrier-related or a problem with the phone's Message software itself. When attempting to send a text message, I cannot send a message to a number formatted

Re: Issues / Quirks with SMS via GUI (Messages app)

2008-07-18 Thread Matthew Lane
Joachim Breitner wrote: Hi, Am Freitag, den 18.07.2008, 13:40 -0400 schrieb Matthew Lane: Second, this is more of a major issue but I am not sure if it's carrier-related or a problem with the phone's Message software itself. When attempting to send a text message, I cannot send a

Attachment: application/x-qtopia-sms-1

2008-07-17 Thread Ken Restivo
I'm getting SMS's on the FR (using the ASU image). Some look great, and others are in some weird MIME format: Attachment: application/x-qtopia-sms-1 How do I decode and read these? Why are some SMS's OK and others are not? Is this a bug and should I report it? Thanks. -ken

cannot SMS

2008-07-12 Thread Eildert Groeneveld
Hi Folks after a dist upgrade via http://78.47.190.211/daily-feed/om-gta02/ the sms applications seems to start and die right away. When started in the konsole it tell us that it dies with a seg fault at an attempt to to allocate a widget with width and height of -11 anyone have an idea

Re: Standardizing data store across toolkits (SMS, PIM data, playlist, etc)

2008-05-21 Thread Samuel Melrose
Hey, Sorry to stick my nose in on this, especially if I'm missing something. But do you guys have anything decided about this, and what it is all going to be stored on? May I suggest using SQLite for the data storage? It is very lightweight, not much ram or processor use needed, unlike

Re: Standardizing data store across toolkits (SMS, PIM data, playlist, etc)

2008-05-21 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Wednesday 21 May 2008 12:04:40 Samuel Melrose wrote: Sorry to stick my nose in on this, especially if I'm missing something. But do you guys have anything decided about this, and what it is all going to be stored on? May I suggest using SQLite for the data storage? It is very lightweight,

Re: Standardizing data store across toolkits (SMS, PIM data, playlist, etc)

2008-05-20 Thread joerg
Am Fr 16. Mai 2008 schrieb ian douglas: MartinG wrote: On Friday 16 May 2008 03:26:06 Carsten Haitzler wrote: yeah. this is actually the bigger problem we face in the longer run. standardising data stores and access to them etc. :) I think this is a important point that should be

Standardizing data store across toolkits (SMS, PIM data, playlist, etc) [Re: Software Status Update]

2008-05-16 Thread MartinG
)... BTW, I think that there's an important thing, really more than the look one: different applications that performs the same task should work on the same dataset. I mean, if I've both an Openmoko SMS app, and a Qtopia one I want them all read the same contacts and the same messages. Maybe

Re: Standardizing data store across toolkits (SMS, PIM data, playlist, etc)

2008-05-16 Thread ian douglas
MartinG wrote: On Friday 16 May 2008 03:26:06 Carsten Haitzler wrote: yeah. this is actually the bigger problem we face in the longer run. standardising data stores and access to them etc. :) I think this is a important point that should be given some thought before everyone starts hacking.

RE: Newbee ..- encrypted calls/SMS

2008-04-25 Thread Crane, Matthew
, I expect that with voice calls that delay can be added and removed without warning. But in terms of complexity and chance of success, it does seem like the encrypted SMS is both practical and feasible, compared to any sort of voice encryption. Maybe a composite solution? Secure voip session

Re: Newbee ..- encrypted calls/SMS

2008-04-25 Thread Ian Stirling
Crane, Matthew wrote: Yes, I understand that, that is why I'm thinking of this approach. My idea was to use analog voice transforms and their inverse with properties that would preserve most of the codec performance. But it would be awfully difficult to sync up the inverse on the other end

Re: Newbee ..- encrypted calls/SMS

2008-04-25 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
There are no simple voice transforms at all that will get through the codec, and actually encrypt. Voice changing is possible, but encryption is not. You _cannot_ - for example - exepect frequency inversion - to get through the codec chain. What about correlating (multiplying) the input

Re: Newbee ..- encrypted calls/SMS

2008-04-25 Thread Ian Stirling
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: There are no simple voice transforms at all that will get through the codec, and actually encrypt. Voice changing is possible, but encryption is not. You _cannot_ - for example - exepect frequency inversion - to get through the codec chain. What about

RE: Newbee ..- encrypted calls/SMS

2008-04-25 Thread Crane, Matthew
as unintelligble that are favourable to the person being investigated). But I expect you're right, it's too difficult and not practical. Not compared with the alternatives. I like secure VOIP initiated from encrypted SMS. A wireless connection is always available in a big city. Once the IP addresses

RE: Newbee ..- encrypted calls/SMS

2008-04-25 Thread David Pottage
On Fri, April 25, 2008 2:18 pm, Crane, Matthew wrote: Yes, I understand that, that is why I'm thinking of this approach. My idea was to use analog voice transforms and their inverse with properties that would preserve most of the codec performance. But it would be awfully difficult to sync

Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-17 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: UID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks... Just one thing: how is generated the UID data? It seems something like: UID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, how is calculed what I called ${id}? I have absolutely no idea,

Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-16 Thread Magnus Alvestad
They are saved in evolution files in the root home directory. I don't remember the exact path, but it's something like: ~root/.evolution/memos/memos.evo -- Magnus Alvestad - Seniorkonsulent Webstep Mob: 982 98 004 - http://www.webstep.no Oslo - Bergen - Stavanger - Trondheim

Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-16 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Magnus Alvestad ha scritto: They are saved in evolution files in the root home directory. I don't remember the exact path, but it's something like: ~root/.evolution/memos/memos.evo Since When I'll have a freerunner I'd like to import my SMSs saved in my actual mobile, I'd like to know the

Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-16 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Somebody in the thread at some point said: Do you have some examples to post? Thanks! I didn't know any of this until Magnus said, but it seems it is like this, additional texts appear between additional BEGIN:VJOURNAL / END:VJOURNAL # cat

Subject: Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-16 Thread Bobby Martin
Magnus Alvestad ha scritto: They are saved in evolution files in the root home directory. I don't remember the exact path, but it's something like: ~root/.evolution/memos/memos.evo Since When I'll have a freerunner I'd like to import my SMSs saved in my actual mobile, I'd like to know

Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-16 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)
Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: Do you have some examples to post? Thanks! I didn't know any of this until Magnus said, but it seems it is like this, additional texts appear between additional BEGIN:VJOURNAL / END:VJOURNAL # cat

Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-16 Thread Ian Darwin
Thanks... Just one thing: how is generated the UID data? It seems something like: UID:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, how is calculated what I called ${id}? There is an official spec for the UUID format, or several variants of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uuid Ian D

Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-16 Thread joerg
Am Mo 17. März 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño): Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: Do you have some examples to post? Thanks! I didn't know any of this until Magnus said, but it seems it is like this, additional texts appear between additional

where The SMS message save?

2008-03-14 Thread Xiangfu Liu
I use Neo1973 in China I can transcode from base64 to Chinese in this way i can read the chinese SMS i know the sms save at /home/root/Document/application/Qmail/mail In Qtopia but i don't know where the SMS mesage save In the OpenMoko -- my Blog : http://blog.chinaunix.net/u/13385

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-26 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
block (SMS, calls, data) both incomming and outgoing (useful if someone borrows the phone). Of course it would need a little front-end, but that would be easy to make. By adding an iptables kernel module, we could have something that would be more than good enough for most of us. We would also have

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-26 Thread Tilman Baumann
Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: It is just one idea. I don't know how complicated it would be. (This would need the gsm driver to be in the kernel, but I assume it is.) It is not. *g* Receiving SMS is something the GSM unit makes almost autonomously. gsmd (the driver ;) )just reads

How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Heikki Sørum
Hi everyone! Today I got another proposal for useful applications that would make an open mobile outshine oldsch00l mobiles. The leader of the Norwegian EFF chapter posted som days in frustration a question whether there was any kind of blacklisting/spam filtering capabilities for SMS/Phonecalls

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread ian douglas
Heikki Sørum wrote: In my ideal world: Alice gets a OpenMoko, and then starts getting annoying calls from Peach Corporation that would like to sell here an Peach M-Phone. As Alice dislikes Peach Corporation, she tags any sms/mms and caller ID's with a Marketing Call tag. One of my favorite

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Steven Kurylo
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Heikki Sørum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone! Today I got another proposal for useful applications that would make an open mobile outshine oldsch00l mobiles. While I've never thought of taking it that far, this is one of the prime reasons I will be

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread kenneth marken
On Monday 25 February 2008 22:39:04 ian douglas wrote: Being able to do this within OpenMoko would be pretty slick too, though you won't really gain anything by marking SMS messages as spam -- you're still paying for the incoming message whether to tag it as spam or not, you'd only have

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Heikki Sørum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from Matilda in Canned Meat Marketing. Matilda has created an software system that automates calling and displays a unknown caller ID, then ... 3rd party ruggedized Moko Case!) he tags the calling ID with Deceptive

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Tilman Baumann
... And by the way. Spamassassin (or better something 'lighter') for sms sounds like a really really good idea... Just my 2 Eurocents Tilman PS: This calls for a interception API on the phone. Fighting spam would not be the only thing that would be nice to hook into these events

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Shawn Rutledge
defense because they obviously are getting away with it, for a while at least; or they don't know that it's a cell. But in practice I don't really get telemarketing calls on my cell, and nowadays seldom get them at home. I have gotten SMS spam though. I guess there is less that you can do about

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Joseph Booker
regretfully obtained the number legitimately would be pretty nice though. SMS spam is one thing, but I'd wager individual blocking for calls is more useful then block lists. -- Joseph Jon Booker signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ OpenMoko

Re: How Alice and Bob got telephone/SMS spam on their Moko.

2008-02-25 Thread Tilman Baumann
ian douglas wrote: Tilman Baumann wrote: In my eyes, trust should be calculated automaticly, not by manually defining trust (like pgp). Using the system could improve it. Perhaps number of successful phone calls, and length of phone call to add a number of trust 'points' ... the more

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