Am Mo 13. April 2009 schrieb Rask Ingemann Lambertsen:
> On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 05:14:03PM +0100, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> > You can't patch
> > a ready-done 8layer PCB, no matter what your document files are (sw POV on
> > hw!).
>
>Actually, it would be useful to know which signals are
On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 05:14:03PM +0100, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
>
> for your Q about project files instead of pdf: OM is making money by selling
> hw, so there's not much sense in publishing data that doesn't help EE guys in
> community to understand the hw but instead is only needed for prod
arne anka wrote:
>>> development has stopped. period.
>>The misrepresentation - which you seem to think is not a
>> misrepresentation - in the news coverage is that they're saying
>> development
>> of open phones at OM has been cancelled, while all that's been decided
>> is to
>> cancel t
arne anka wrote:
>>> development has stopped. period.
>> There other phones "in the pipeline"
>> Three variants of GTA02, 2 entirely new concepts aimed at
>> different target markets. Not smart phones, but phones nontheless.
>
> the first time i hear that.
> even the statements qu
>> development has stopped. period.
>
>The misrepresentation - which you seem to think is not a
> misrepresentation - in the news coverage is that they're saying
> development
> of open phones at OM has been cancelled, while all that's been decided
> is to
> cancel the GTA03, not developmen
>> development has stopped. period.
> There other phones "in the pipeline"
> Three variants of GTA02, 2 entirely new concepts aimed at
> different target markets. Not smart phones, but phones nontheless.
the first time i hear that.
even the statements quotes so excessively mentioned
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 07:34:04PM +0200, arne anka wrote:
> >> phone development means gta03 -- and that indeed stopped.
> >
> > it wrong, surely a lot of other people will get it wrong too. No, phone
> > development doesn't mean GTA03. Openmoko can release a device which is
> > not a successor
arne anka wrote:
>>> phone development means gta03 -- and that indeed stopped.
>> it wrong, surely a lot of other people will get it wrong too. No, phone
>> development doesn't mean GTA03. Openmoko can release a device which is
>> not a successor to the GTA02.
>
> i never said, it has to be a
On Mon, Apr 06, 2009 at 11:41:57AM +0200, Lothar Behrens wrote:
> About the camera issue:
>
> I have read something about a small computer base case that has a jack
> or bus system ontop of it's
> case. That way it is extendable with cameras or what ever. I don't
> know where it was but it was
>> phone development means gta03 -- and that indeed stopped.
>
> it wrong, surely a lot of other people will get it wrong too. No, phone
> development doesn't mean GTA03. Openmoko can release a device which is
> not a successor to the GTA02.
i never said, it has to be a successor to gta02.
the o
quoth Andrés Calderón as of Thu, 09 Apr 2009 19:36:39 -0500:
> Slashdotted again: "Openmoko Phone Not Dead After All"
> http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/09/220244
Thanks Pat and Steve!
best,
Lalo Martins
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> Slashdotted again: "Openmoko Phone Not Dead After All"
> http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/04/09/220244
>
> Andrés Calderón
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erhaps you could clarify what you
> think counts as development to an already released product (GTA02).
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On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:58:33AM +0200, arne anka wrote:
> > "Die Entwicklung der Mobiltelefone wird eingestellt"
> > Development of mobile phones stopped
> >
> > big topic (many people don't read more)
> > "Openmoko gibt freie Handy-Entwicklung auf"
> > Openmoko stopps development of free mobile
Steve Mosher wrote:
> Like I said, if it bleeds, it leeds.
>
>
> When you have a major announcement such as seans you have two options:
>
> 1. Try to control the press response beforehand. Brief the press
> beforehand, do a press release, release an official statement on the
> same day as the even
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Shawn Rutledge wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:34 AM, wrote:
>> Make a useable phone with inovative apps is what is needed to get new
>> customers, not a fancy 3d chip nor a better screen or camera or whatever. For
>> the hardware is already way much better than the software, IMHO.
>
> I agr
ri...@happyleptic.org wrote:
>>> When Nokia annouces that the n810 is discontinued and will have no more
>>> support in the future, nobody gives a damn. Why ?
>> because nokia make dozens of phones and are not stopping ALL of them. when a
>> company stops its entire development of new products in
Like I said, if it bleeds, it leeds.
When you have a major announcement such as seans you have two options:
1. Try to control the press response beforehand. Brief the press
beforehand, do a press release, release an official statement on the
same day as the event. A controlled blast.
2. Drop t
Am Tuesday 07 April 2009 20:14:18 schrieb Steve Mosher:
> Fernando Martins wrote:
> > Steve Mosher wrote:
> >> And you are right the community can help:
> >> 1. get code upstream. That decreases our cost to maintain.
> >> 2. Stay involved or get involved, either by coding, testing, or
> >> sp
Fernando Martins wrote:
> Steve Mosher wrote:
>> And you are right the community can help:
>> 1. get code upstream. That decreases our cost to maintain.
>> 2. Stay involved or get involved, either by coding, testing, or
>> spreading the word.
>> you get the idea.
> My biggest itch was the
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 5:34 AM, wrote:
> Make a useable phone with inovative apps is what is needed to get new
> customers, not a fancy 3d chip nor a better screen or camera or whatever. For
> the hardware is already way much better than the software, IMHO.
I agree. If the GTA03 was going to be
hm..
In case you missed it, the article from the register:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04/06/openmoko/
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Am 07.04.2009 um 14:11 schrieb Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman):
>
>
> because nokia make dozens of phones and are not stopping ALL of
> them. when a
> company stops its entire development of new products in a product
> line... in
> fact its ONLY product that is publically known (development m
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
(cut)
> stopped making ALL phones and decided to start making shoes instead. that'd
> make
> news!. :) these things create a life of their own - if they are correct or
> not. the media interprets it in the way to make it as sensational as p
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, ri...@happyleptic.org wrote:
> I may sound old, but I think that the FR hardware (as well as the n810
> hardware for that matter) is more than enough, and the inovation must now
> comes
> from the software part. The phone downsides are not in the hardware, so let's
> sett
> > When Nokia annouces that the n810 is discontinued and will have no more
> > support in the future, nobody gives a damn. Why ?
>
> because nokia make dozens of phones and are not stopping ALL of them. when a
> company stops its entire development of new products in a product line...
Yes. But a
2009/4/7 Marcel :
> Am Tuesday 07 April 2009 14:22:43 schrieb rakshat hooja:
>> > (go
>> >
>> > > for the open hair dryer! :-)).
>> >
>> > With wireless mp3 streaming and anti-noise ("Gegenschall" in german) to
>> > make
>> > it completely silent!
>>
>> It will only have wireless Ogg streaming by d
Am Tuesday 07 April 2009 14:22:43 schrieb rakshat hooja:
> > (go
> >
> > > for the open hair dryer! :-)).
> >
> > With wireless mp3 streaming and anti-noise ("Gegenschall" in german) to
> > make
> > it completely silent!
>
> It will only have wireless Ogg streaming by default. You will have to opkg
>
> (go
> > for the open hair dryer! :-)).
>
> With wireless mp3 streaming and anti-noise ("Gegenschall" in german) to
> make
> it completely silent!
It will only have wireless Ogg streaming by default. You will have to opkg
install libmad (via wifi ssh connection) to get wireless MP3 going!
Rak
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 14:00:04 +0200 ri...@happyleptic.org said:
> -[ Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:58:33AM +0200, arne anka ]
> > > Openmoko stopps development of free mobile phones
> > >
> > > In my opinion it suggerates the wrong message.
> >
> > so?
> > phone development means gta03 -- and that in
Am Tuesday 07 April 2009 14:00:04 schrieb ri...@happyleptic.org:
> -[ Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:58:33AM +0200, arne anka ]
>
> > > Openmoko stopps development of free mobile phones
> > >
> > > In my opinion it suggerates the wrong message.
> >
> > so?
> > phone development means gta03 -- and that
-[ Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 11:58:33AM +0200, arne anka ]
> > Openmoko stopps development of free mobile phones
> >
> > In my opinion it suggerates the wrong message.
>
> so?
> phone development means gta03 -- and that indeed stopped.
The project is _delayed_, and openmoko still want to build new
2009/4/7 arne anka :
>> "Die Entwicklung der Mobiltelefone wird eingestellt"
>> Development of mobile phones stopped
>>
>> big topic (many people don't read more)
>> "Openmoko gibt freie Handy-Entwicklung auf"
>> Openmoko stopps development of free mobile phones
>>
>> In my opinion it suggerates th
> "Die Entwicklung der Mobiltelefone wird eingestellt"
> Development of mobile phones stopped
>
> big topic (many people don't read more)
> "Openmoko gibt freie Handy-Entwicklung auf"
> Openmoko stopps development of free mobile phones
>
> In my opinion it suggerates the wrong message.
so?
phone d
> > http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=1237229080902
>
> well, that's more or less what i understood so far.
"Die Entwicklung der Mobiltelefone wird eingestellt"
Development of mobile phones stopped
big topic (many people don't read more)
"Openmoko gibt freie Handy-Entwicklung auf"
Openmoko stopps
> http://www.silicon.de/mittelstand/0,39038986,41002613,00/aus+fuer+linux_handy+openmoko.htm
i don't know this site ...
> http://www.chip.de/news/OpenMoko-Aus-fuer-Linux-Handys_35990484.html
but chip is basically the yellow press of it -- i wouldn't hang a dog for
anything they write.
> http:
Steve Mosher wrote:
> And you are right the community can help:
> 1. get code upstream. That decreases our cost to maintain.
> 2. Stay involved or get involved, either by coding, testing, or
> spreading the word.
> you get the idea.
My biggest itch was the frustration of getting a phone whic
If it bleeds, it leeds.
I'll alert PR to these publications and we will get the story right.
Until then the community should just pound on them. An Army of Davids.
Comment, link to seans video, link to my Video.
Steve
Michael Tansella wrote:
> On Tuesday 07 April 2009 00:24:34 Steve Mosher wr
On Tuesday 07 April 2009 00:24:34 Steve Mosher wrote:
> production is not stopping. Sean said explicitly in his Bern address
> that there is ample inventory and I'll add that the production
> continues. In fact, one of the consequences of suspending GTA03 is that
> we can focus
> on two things ( Fr
Hi Joseph,
Your project and projects like yours were one of the principal
motivations behind the decision to focus on FR. GTA03 as defined
would not have met your needs: no wifi, no GPS. Comments below
inlined address your other concerns
Joseph Reeves wrote:
>> Werner and I are discussing var
> Werner and I are discussing various possibilities. I rule nothing out.
Steve, at the OpenExpo Sean refered to the Dash navigator as a
"dashtraction" from the serious business of Openmoko. How will "Plan
B" (which is presumably not a distraction but a means of improving ROI
for FIC) avoid becomi
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Steve Mosher wrote:
>
> WRT the general phone market, I'd say we are content to have the android
> distribution cover that demand. That effort is being carried out
> independently of us. I see that as pure upside business. In brazil for
> example, we see a market fo
Gerald A wrote:
> Hi all,
> I originally wrote Lothar in private, and asked for his permission to repost
> to the list. There have been a few replies in the meantime, but there were
> some good points here.
>
> Now, I'm not a hardware guy, so take my input with a grain of salt, but I
> have been
Fernando Martins wrote:
> Steve Mosher wrote:
>> Thanks Anthony.
>>
>> For the sake of everyone who hasnt read my posts on this
>> or seen the video of seans speech. Let me say that your position
>> is the one we settled on. spend our resources on the FR and then
>> fund a modest project: project
Hi bob.
A couple points below. thanks for your continued interest.
robert lazarski wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Lalo Martins wrote:
>> quoth arne anka as of Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:01:11 +0200:
>>
This is getting ridiculous. Now the misreportage is spreading through
the blog
production is not stopping. Sean said explicitly in his Bern address
that there is ample inventory and I'll add that the production
continues. In fact, one of the consequences of suspending GTA03 is that
we can focus
on two things ( FreeRunner and Project B) as opposed to three things.
Let's get
I have an official statement out.
I'll get on the corrections asap
steve.
community! chime in. on these sites
Lalo Martins wrote:
> This is getting ridiculous. Now the misreportage is spreading through
> the blogosphere:
> http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=4214
> which was pi
Lothar
> Why switching. It's an internet tablet, not really usable as a mobile
> phone - in my mind.
nextgen maemo will have 3g.
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Am 06.04.2009 um 22:19 schrieb Max:
> so a switch to maemo ?
>
Why switching. It's an internet tablet, not really usable as a mobile
phone - in my mind.
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Am 06.04.2009 um 21:03 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber:
> Am Mo 6. April 2009 schrieb Lothar Behrens:
>> I read the issue with removing the hole. The space in that 'hole'
>> could be used as the
>> docking bay for extensions. Ok, the mic should somehow moved, or a
>> 'voicepipe' could
>> be used to di
Am Mo 6. April 2009 schrieb Lothar Behrens:
> I read the issue with removing the hole. The space in that 'hole'
> could be used as the
> docking bay for extensions. Ok, the mic should somehow moved, or a
> 'voicepipe' could
> be used to direct the acustics.
>
> A good starting point to use th
Hi all,
I originally wrote Lothar in private, and asked for his permission to repost
to the list. There have been a few replies in the meantime, but there were
some good points here.
Now, I'm not a hardware guy, so take my input with a grain of salt, but I
have been watching the project for a whil
> Talk is cheap.
yeah robert Talk is cheap and moaning is even fun ,isn't it?
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I'll ask Tully OMs resident ME genius to have a look.
A long while back when Joerg and I were doing the GTA04
we had decided to use the GTA02 case (with mods) for the
project and were playing with several camera Ideas. Tully
is looking at that for me now ( I had some new ideas) so
I'll
Steve Mosher wrote:
> Thanks Anthony.
>
> For the sake of everyone who hasnt read my posts on this
> or seen the video of seans speech. Let me say that your position
> is the one we settled on. spend our resources on the FR and then
> fund a modest project: project B. Put the GTA03 on hold
> and fi
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Lalo Martins wrote:
> quoth arne anka as of Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:01:11 +0200:
>
>>> This is getting ridiculous. Now the misreportage is spreading through
>>> the blogosphere:
>>> ...
>>
>> in what respect a mis-reportage?
>> that's, what i concluded from these long
quoth arne anka as of Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:01:11 +0200:
>> This is getting ridiculous. Now the misreportage is spreading through
>> the blogosphere:
>> ...
>
> in what respect a mis-reportage?
> that's, what i concluded from these long mails with 99.9% quote and half
> a line at the bottom ...
T
> This is getting ridiculous. Now the misreportage is spreading through
> the blogosphere:
> ...
in what respect a mis-reportage?
that's, what i concluded from these long mails with 99.9% quote and half a
line at the bottom ...
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This is getting ridiculous. Now the misreportage is spreading through
the blogosphere:
http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=4214
which was picked up by Giz and Engadget:
http://i.gizmodo.com/5200285/openmoko-cancels-freerunner-the-original-
open-source-linux-phone
http://www.engadget.com/200
The expansion spacer is exactly what could be done for a hands on
hobby electronics playground :-)
(http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wishlist/ExpansionSpacer)
What I mean with the replacement back case, is that you don't need to
screw up the torx and add the
spacer. The end user don't like to fid
I read the issue with removing the hole. The space in that 'hole'
could be used as the
docking bay for extensions. Ok, the mic should somehow moved, or a
'voicepipe' could
be used to direct the acustics.
A good starting point to use the space somehow useful.
Lothar
Am 06.04.2009 um 12:49 sch
2009/4/6 Robin Paulson :
> there were a few tentative steps on the wiki some months back
> concerning alternate cases, and this was one suggested idea
lots around here:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Category:Hardware_ideas
expansion back looks like it covers your camera module
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2009/4/6 Lothar Behrens :
> About the camera issue:
>
> I have read something about a small computer base case that has a jack
> or bus system ontop of it's
> case. That way it is extendable with cameras or what ever. I don't
> know where it was but it was cool.
>
> Why not think about a back case
About the camera issue:
I have read something about a small computer base case that has a jack
or bus system ontop of it's
case. That way it is extendable with cameras or what ever. I don't
know where it was but it was cool.
Why not think about a back case that includes a cam and using contac
I finally see your face :), I also add great voice
Great excerpt of what's going on there in OM thanks steve.
As Risto sais way to go :)
2009/4/6 Steve Mosher :
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8Tsvj2TdQ
>
> Hair straightener required.
>
> Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
>> I'm just amazed to see this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d8Tsvj2TdQ
Hair straightener required.
Risto H. Kurppa wrote:
> I'm just amazed to see this discussion, that actually someone from
> Openmoko (=Steve) is responding to the ideas, sharing their/his
> thoughts. As someone pointed already out earlier in this thread -
Thanks Risto.
It really is a function of the sharpened focus of the company. In my
particular case, if we back up to the september october time frame
I was working on doing the requirements and specs for the GTA04 with
joerg, looking at the glamoetctomy with werner, Doing FR stuff and
project
Hey tony!
好朋友
Glad to see your comments.
Neng-Yu Tu (Tony Tu) wrote:
> Steve Mosher wrote:
>> Good comments All.
>>
>> Let me inline some answers/explanations.
>>
>> Lothar Behrens wrote:
>>> Hi,
>> I use this analogy. You write your code in a series of units.
>> you unit test them. Then you do
no i didnt upload that video. I relented today and got a youtube account
to upload my video, so I'm still fumbling around with youtube.
Kosa wrote:
> Thanks fo that.
>
> Just a recomendation. I don't know know if you yourself (hope that's well
> written since
> english is not my first language)
I'm just amazed to see this discussion, that actually someone from
Openmoko (=Steve) is responding to the ideas, sharing their/his
thoughts. As someone pointed already out earlier in this thread - this
is what an open company is supposed to be doing. Way to go, keep up
the good work, we're looking
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Steve Mosher wrote:
> > Good comments All.
> >
> > Let me inline some answers/explanations.
> >
> > Lothar Behrens wrote:
>> >> Hi,
> >
> > I use this analogy. You write your code in a series of units.
> > you unit test them. Then you do your first in
Hi buddy!
Werner Almesberger wrote:
> Steve Mosher wrote:
>> hardware world. I'll use another metaphor. Building hardware requires
>> a "waterfall" design process, at least in my experience. In the software
>> world, outside of DOD and NASA, we'd be hard pressed to find projects
>> that followed
Thanks fo that.
Just a recomendation. I don't know know if you yourself (hope that's
well written since
english is not my first language) upload that video, but I think it
could be a good idea to
rename it so it includes "openmoko" on the title. It wuld be easier to
find for those who
are no
Marcel wrote:
> That's the selling point for us more-or-less nerds. But the average
> oh-the-iphone-has-so-nice-bling-bling-user cannot see the value an open phone
> has for us [...]
I think they see it, indirectly. If the openness attracts developers,
they build things. First they build things
Lothar Behrens wrote:
> I mentioned KICAD (http://kicad.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/DE:Main_Page
KiCad is probably the Open Source EDA system that's closest to
being up to the task. But I still wonder if it can really do it.
Don't get me wrong. I use KiCad for everything I do privately
and I
Thanks Anthony.
For the sake of everyone who hasnt read my posts on this
or seen the video of seans speech. Let me say that your position
is the one we settled on. spend our resources on the FR and then
fund a modest project: project B. Put the GTA03 on hold
and find a way to involve the community
Steve Mosher wrote:
> hardware world. I'll use another metaphor. Building hardware requires
> a "waterfall" design process, at least in my experience. In the software
> world, outside of DOD and NASA, we'd be hard pressed to find projects
> that followed a strict waterfall model.
Hmm, I think on
Well,
sean announced the mailing list at openexpo. also talked about our
long term view. I read through your other comments below. Thanks.
On the Proto boards. PCB is just one component of the cost of a EVT
board. I know with the Voodoo II I spent at least 1000 per board to get
a 2 day turn b
Am Monday 06 April 2009 02:28:05 schrieb Anthony Clearn:
[...]
> but isn't the fact that the phone is open the big selling
> point? I know it is for me.
That's the selling point for us more-or-less nerds. But the average
oh-the-iphone-has-so-nice-bling-bling-user cannot see the value an open phon
Perhaps one of the positives which could be taken from this is that it allows a
rethink. One question in my mind was why the need to produce GTA03 when GTA02
was getting better? I hadn't time to follow GTA03 as like many people, I see, I
have a fair few emails to read. I once heard someone say m
thats the funny thing about inboxes and bills. If you ignore them
they dont go away, they just get bigger. There's a bunch of jokes here I
refuse to make.
Marcel wrote:
> That's the point - I was away from home the last week only and kinda shocked
> found the om-community and debian-user-german
Am 05.04.2009 um 23:21 schrieb Steve Mosher:
> Good comments All.
>
> Let me inline some answers/explanations.
>
>
Snip
>>
>> My education in 1987 till 1990, was electronics engineering. I do not
>> any more practice in that area. So I stuck in some conflict
>> not to start any electronics proj
That's the point - I was away from home the last week only and kinda shocked
found the om-community and debian-user-german folders with 320 mails each
when I came back which is nothing compared to your 1800 mails... :)
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Am Monday 06 April 2009 01:08:24 schrieb Steve Mosher:
> thanks.
thanks. During march I got so effin buried in other stuff that my
community posting went to hell. I sat there looking at my community
inbox grow and grow. And I thought "I rather open my cell phone bill
than plow through 1800 community mails" but in the end you pay your cell
phone bill and plow
Thanks Lothar.
I think Dr N and I will have some fruitful discussions on how to
start this. I'll contribute my time and experience as I am able to to
get this
going.
Lothar Behrens wrote:
> Am 05.04.2009 um 21:00 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
>
>> Hi Lothar, Jörg, Sean, Steve, and all o
as always, ditto, what joerg said. I could release the GTA03 design
files, but there value is limited. If the design were verified (DVT)
and made ready for production (PVT) then the design files would only
have value for somebody who wanted to quickly produce PCBs. As a
resource for a design mod
On 05/04/2009 23:21, Steve Mosher wrote:
> The voting approach will be discussed. Basically I dont believe in
> letting idiots vote. You dont want me voting on your layout and
> convincing everyone with my superb rhetoric that your 8 layer design
> can be accomplished in 2 layers.. you get my dri
Dr. N
We are thinking down similar paths. See my other other posts.
I will check out the satilite site. My sense is, without even looking,
that a fair number of people working on the project probably had some
aerospace background and were well schooled in the process of
requirements drive
Nice posts Steve! This is what a community oriented company works like!
Frequent, on-time, interesting and well-written emails from the inside!
Keep it up!
- Gunnar
Steve Mosher wrote:
> Good comments All.
>
> Let me inline some answers/explanations.
>
> Lothar Behrens wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am
Good comments All.
Let me inline some answers/explanations.
Lothar Behrens wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am mostly reading and sometime writing here. If it was useful or
> useless - I don't know. But anyway.
>
> Let me arse around with some stupid ideas :-)
>
> What is a open phone?
>
> Is it only ope
Just to mention here, also found at the car TFT site (GNS FM9 TMC
receiver (miniUSB) *neu*):
http://www.cartft.com/catalog/il/1016
This may be interesting for the navit project.
Lothar
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Am 05.04.2009 um 21:00 schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
> Hi Lothar, Jörg, Sean, Steve, and all others who are interested in a
> future GTA03,
>
[snip]
> * funding of the project organization (e.g. we can set up a
> community funds or society or association or however the legal form
> ha
Hi Lothar, Jörg, Sean, Steve, and all others who are interested in a
future GTA03,
I have also been thinking for a while in exactly the same direction.
Making the development of the GTA03 a community activity. Supported
and sponsored by individuals and companies who are interested in the
r
Am 05.04.2009 um 18:14 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber:
> Am So 5. April 2009 schrieb Lothar Behrens:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am mostly reading and sometime writing here. If it was useful or
>> useless - I don't know. But anyway.
>> Isn't it possible to also develop hardware collaboratively?
> [...]
> Hi Lotha
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote:
> only add that replies are quite unfair to a any free project whatever
> it succeed or not.
>
> 2009/4/5 David Reyes Samblas Martinez :
>
>> Yes very sad wrong titular "No More OpenMoko Phone " and very
>> discorageus comentaries :(
>>
>
Listen, it's jus
Am So 5. April 2009 schrieb Lothar Behrens:
> Hi,
>
> I am mostly reading and sometime writing here. If it was useful or
> useless - I don't know. But anyway.
> Isn't it possible to also develop hardware collaboratively?
[...]
Hi Lothar,
nope this won't fly. It's basically the sw pov approach t
Hi,
I am mostly reading and sometime writing here. If it was useful or
useless - I don't know. But anyway.
Let me arse around with some stupid ideas :-)
What is a open phone?
Is it only open source software or is it also open hardware?
If software could be developed virtually at any place an
It seems like "plan B" doesn't share anything with phones and... Linux ;(
2009/4/5, David Reyes Samblas Martinez :
> only add that replies are quite unfair to a any free project whatever
> it succeed or not.
>
> 2009/4/5 David Reyes Samblas Martinez :
>> Yes very sad wrong titular "No More OpenMok
only add that replies are quite unfair to a any free project whatever
it succeed or not.
2009/4/5 David Reyes Samblas Martinez :
> Yes very sad wrong titular "No More OpenMoko Phone " and very
> discorageus comentaries :(
>
> 2009/4/5 robert lazarski :
>> http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=
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