RE: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-14 Thread Dean Collins
na > Sent: Wednesday, 9 May 2007 1:01 AM > To: community@lists.openmoko.org > Subject: Re: Sun JavaFx > > Marco Miani wrote: > > Hi > > > > I've just read this > > > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-11 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Jim Thompson writes: >aren't related (much) to openmoko, so I suggest we take these off-line, >unless 'the list' decides they would rather watch/join the discussion >here. (And yes, I agree that I contributed to the discussion going >off-track.) I for one have been interested (decades ago I w

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-11 Thread Jim Thompson
Shawn, I'm more than happy to engage and debate these points, but its likely off-topic (or at least not "in scope") for the list (which is about openmoko and/or the community that surrounds openmoko). Topics such as: "why is Java slow" (and how to construct hw to make it go fast concurrency

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-11 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 5/10/07, Jim Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded wrote: > Shawn, > > I have been very involved in this area at Sun now for a couple of > years. Let me add come comments: > > Hardware accelerated Java is actually fairly common already, at > lea

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Jim Thompson
Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded wrote: Shawn, I have been very involved in this area at Sun now for a couple of years. Let me add come comments: Hardware accelerated Java is actually fairly common already, at least in the Java ME space using ARM's Jazelle technology. It does

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded
Shawn, I have been very involved in this area at Sun now for a couple of years. Let me add come comments: Hardware accelerated Java is actually fairly common already, at least in the Java ME space using ARM's Jazelle technology. It does have some benefits in very constrained platforms but in gen

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Shawn Rutledge
I'm very disappointed that Sun has put off hardware-accelerated Java devices and Java operating systems for so long (they could have done this at least 5 years ago, if not more). The much-vaunted Java Chips never materialized in significant quantities of devices. The Java Station had such disapp

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Sander van Grieken
Does this mean there will be non-open sourced parts in the stack necessary to use JavaFX Script? >>> Sun has already said that JavaFX Mobile (the stuff you need for the >>> phone) will be GPLed. >>> >>> So.. "no". >> Well, this is not exactly true. Sun indeed said explicitly that >>

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Jim Thompson
I know its bad form to respond to one's own posting, but watch the end of the 'webcast' around the 15:00 mark, just after McNealy gets up to talk about Curriki, and then compares Rich Green to Jobs, where Jonathan Schwartz turns to ask Rich Green: JS: "Rich, how would you feel about someone

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Jim Thompson
Sander van Grieken wrote: Sander van Grieken wrote: I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of Savaje platform (+ JavaFX scripting). That's correct. This is going to be very cool stuff. And the Neo is definitely very high on the list of devices I want to see this running on. If I understand c

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Sander van Grieken
> Sander van Grieken wrote: I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of Savaje platform (+ JavaFX scripting). >>> That's correct. This is going to be very cool stuff. And the Neo is >>> definitely very high on the list of devices I want to see this running >>> on. >> >> If I understand co

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Sander van Grieken
> Sander van Grieken wrote: I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of Savaje platform (+ JavaFX scripting). >>> That's correct. This is going to be very cool stuff. And the Neo is >>> definitely very high on the list of devices I want to see this running >>> on. >> >> If I understand co

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Thursday 10 May 2007 12:04:22 Jim Thompson wrote: > > Does this mean there will be non-open sourced parts in the stack > > necessary to use JavaFX Script? > > Sun has already said that JavaFX Mobile (the stuff you need for the > phone) will be GPLed. Humm, thats kinda conflicting with http:/

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Jim Thompson
Sander van Grieken wrote: I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of Savaje platform (+ JavaFX scripting). That's correct. This is going to be very cool stuff. And the Neo is definitely very high on the list of devices I want to see this running on. If I understand correctly, JavaFX Script is

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-10 Thread Sander van Grieken
>> I think (hope?) it is the new appearance of Savaje platform (+ JavaFX >> scripting). > > That's correct. This is going to be very cool stuff. And the Neo is > definitely very high on the list of devices I want to see this running > on. If I understand correctly, JavaFX Script is going to be ope

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-09 Thread Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded
Stefano Sanna wrote: Marco Miani wrote: > Hi > > I've just read this > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=16310 > > about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will be presented > soon WTF it's a Neo >

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-09 Thread Jose Manrique Lopez de la Fuente
2007/5/8, Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 08/05/07, Marco Miani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > I've just read this > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=16310 > > about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-08 Thread Stefano Sanna
Marco Miani wrote: > Hi > > I've just read this > http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=16310 > > about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will be presented > soon WTF it's a Neo > > somebody knows someth

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-08 Thread Paul Jimenez
; http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=16310 >> >> about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will be presented soon >> WTF it's a Neo > > >Now that's funny... But as the text says: > >"even as he released a ph

Re: Sun JavaFx

2007-05-08 Thread Vincent
On 08/05/07, Marco Miani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi I've just read this http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=16310 about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will be presented soon WTF it's a Neo Now that's funny... But

Sun JavaFx

2007-05-08 Thread Marco Miani
Hi I've just read this http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=19&entry_id=16310 about sun JavaFx and a mockup of a phone that will be presented soon WTF it's a Neo somebody knows something more ? bye Marco __