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Cristopher, let me to understand why you are so in angry.
Like you I sent my 350 Eur postcard (= 2 month of my house rent) for a
phone that I was knowing was not software complete (and some possible
hardware bug).
OM wrote very well on the homepage t
On Tue, 2008-07-29 at 16:47 +0200, Tilman Baumann wrote:
> Well, i like tangoGPS very much. But it is hardly a comprehensive solution.
> First it's only a tile viewer for online maps. No routing, no offline
> maps.
I'm a huge Openstreetmap fan but until OSM is ready for routing this
will take at
>From everything I've heard a software only fix will not be enough.
Unless you ditch your sd card as a data store.
All new FR's have the HW fix and new software will be written to take
advantage of that HW platform.
The software fix alone allows you to get a fast TTFF but after that, sd
card data
On Tuesday, 29. July 2008 20:17:00 Chris Wright wrote:
> But you do have a design team, according to Rasterman.
Of course we have. How do you think we are trying to get to a device that is
ready for end user ? And this is just the beginning. We will work with more
designers for the UI, the housi
Jay,
you need to chill. You are being really disrepectful to a fellow human
who has worked tirelessly on
this stuff for years. I know you have some passion about this too, but
you need to dial down the rhetoric
a notch or 52.
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On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Scott Derrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From everything I've heard a software only fix will not be enough.
> Unless you ditch your sd card as a data store.
>
> All new FR's have the HW fix and new software will be written to take
> advantage of that HW platform.
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Christoph Anton Mitterer a écrit :
Hi.
> I did an okpg ugrade on ASU image and got the following:
> Configuring kernel-2.6.24
> Configuring kernel-image-2.6.24
> Upgrading Kernel in Flash
> DO NOT stop this process
> Erasing 128 Kibyte @ 7e -- 98
That's really perceptive.
If you go read Morse Peckham's book
http://www.amazon.com/Mans-Rage-Chaos-Biology-Behavior/dp/0805201424
You will understand how museuems and gallery's function; and, Sean's words
will strike you more deeply.
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| The software fix alone allows you to get a fast TTFF but after that, sd
| card data transfers are just to noisy to maintain a high quality GPS
| data stream. Yes it works but poorly, which is better than n
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Christoph Anton Mitterer a écrit :
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| Hi.
|
|> I did an okpg ugrade on ASU image and got the following:
|> Configuring kernel-2.6.24
|> Configuring kernel-image-2.6.24
|> Upgrading Kernel in Flash
|> DO NOT
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Scott Derrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> From everything I've heard a software only fix will not be enough.
>> Unless you ditch your sd card as a data store.
> I haven't had any proble
There was good progress this evening on this. It runs now and is usable.
I'll try create an ipk tomorrow.
Michael
Michael Kluge schrieb:
> Up to now I only have a binary. The Makefile they use is home-made. I fixed
> this by hand and need to figure out how to write a bb recipe for that. The
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Mike Hodson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Scott Derrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> From everything I've heard a software only fix will not be enough.
No bad intentions for snipping,
Just trying to get to the facts:
Brian C wrote:
>
> 1) Who is Openmoko's "design department"?
That would be:
William Lai - PM
Regina Kim - Testing
Wendy Hung - Testing
> 2) Many in the community believed that Openmoko wanted the community to
> contribute code
Ole Kliemann writes:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:24:50PM +1000, Lorn Potter wrote:
>> Ole Kliemann wrote:
>> > On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 12:13:05PM +, Ole Kliemann wrote:
>> >> I'm trying to send an MMS with Qtopia. I set up GPRS and WAP through the
>> >> GUI, but it did not work; the network
Marcus Bauer writes:
> FSO is the brainchild of Dr. Michael Lauer, fresh from the university's
> ivory tower but lacking any industry experience.
I may not agree with using python on a phone, but Michael has quite a lot of
"industry" experience, I first got to know him was back in the days of
"Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" writes:
> Cédric Berger wrote:
> > Does it work for some of you ?
>
> Well... I can't neither find where I can configure my email! :o
Open Messages application.
Options->Account Settings->Options->Add account
:)
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2008/7/29 Marek Lindner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Tuesday, 29. July 2008 20:17:00 Chris Wright wrote:
>> But you do have a design team, according to Rasterman.
>
> Of course we have. How do you think we are trying to get to a device that is
> ready for end user ? And this is just the beginning. We
Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> see:
> http://www.electronicproductonline.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1781
Has anyone ordered one of these? I keep getting cart is empty.
However would this work too? connected to the standard cable that comes with
the FR?
It is a female to female, so on
lpotter wrote:
> "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)" writes:
>
>> Cédric Berger wrote:
>> > Does it work for some of you ?
>>
>> Well... I can't neither find where I can configure my email! :o
>
> Open Messages application.
> Options->Account Settings->Options->Add account
>
Is the SSL for POP (so w
Just don't try tethering (using your phone as a modem) on their cheap
data plan, or they'll hit you with "overage" fees or tell you to convert
to the smarthphone plan.
-id
Steven ** wrote:
> My understanding is that it's marketing BS and there isn't much (if
> any) difference between those unlim
Hello,
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 6:27 PM, Benedikt Schindler
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "/usr/bin/app-restarter" is a programm that looks after the qpe process one
> line under it.
> if this process dies out of reason. (try "killall qpe") the app-restarter
> shows you in the x-screen
> the messa
On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:12:08 +0100 Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
ok. now in illume svn there is code to confiugre what keyboard you want
(illume's, none at all (which means if qpe provides one that will be used), or
some other one. other keyboards must install a .desktop file with a cate
Hello,
I am running ASU on my FreeRunner.
After an 'opkg update' today, I did a 'opkg -test upgrade'. And opkg
still wants to install a Neo1973 kernel on my FreeRunner:
Upgrading kernel on root from
2:2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0 to
2:2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f
Steven Kurylo wrote:
> The tango gps documentation says "Additionally you can conveniently
> pre-cache areas." Can anyone tell me how to do this?
>
> I can scroll around and have those tiles cached for off line use, but
> a pre-cache would be great. Downloading all the OSM tiles and all the
> zo
> On Tuesday 29 July 2008, reaper527 wrote:
>> is there any way to mark a missed call as seen?
> I've seen the same thing, and deleting the missed calls is the only thing
> that's worked for me. I should have checked for bug reports I suppose, or
> better yet dug out the source and patched it.
Ti
Ian,
When you say "GPRS data transfer is still being worked on" does that mean it
doesn't currently work?
I ask because my AT&T pay-as-you-go plan has MediaNet data access included,
for $.01 / kb.
But if I try to connect to a web page, it won't connect. (Using my local
WiFi or USB connection, it
Yes, to my knowledge, GPRS data transfer is not yet automated and not
working out-of-the-box.
A few people on the list have shared instructions on how they got it to
at least connect to their carrier to get an IP address, but I haven't
tried it myself on my AT&T (contract) SIM yet.
-id
Dimitri
Excuse me if I have missed previous posts on this...
Is it possible to ssh to your phone over public IP space yet?
With the ability then to setup a webserver, ftp site, or something
similar?
cheers
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marcus.
BNT.. I am not a sales guy.
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ok someone cleverer than me will do something cool with this and their
freerunner at some point
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080729-neuros-open-set-top-platform-puts-linux-in-living-rooms.html
JW
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So, I picked up a tmobile sim, and signed up with them (I have another
week to cancel), and so the phone registers with tmobile. I am finding
the coverage isn't great in the rural areas I find myself. When driving
around, if out of reach of tmobile, it will say "registering" as if
there is no sim
At some point I read: Ubuntu ported to ARM... and my mind is
starting to do strange trips :)
On Wednesday 30 July 2008 00:57:07 JW wrote:
> ok someone cleverer than me will do something cool with this
and their
> freerunner at some point
>
> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/p
Michele Renda escreveu:
> At some point I read: Ubuntu ported to ARM... and my mind is
> starting to do strange trips :)
>
Yes, Ubutnu was ported to Arm some time ago by a Nokia-sponsored project
and it will become a much bigger thing in some time. Stay tunned ;)
[]s
Adilson.
Michele Renda escreveu:
> At some point I read: Ubuntu ported to ARM... and my mind is
> starting to do strange trips :)
>
Yes, Ubuntu was ported to Arm some time ago by a Nokia-sponsored project
and it will become a much bigger thing in some time. Stay tunned ;)
[]s
Adilson.
Paul Buede wrote:
> the coverage isn't great in the rural areas I find myself. When driving
> around, if out of reach of tmobile, it will say "registering" as if
> there is no sim card. But, on the little image of the antenna, that
> shows how strong my connection is, I still have 2 bars. Is tha
There is a new bit of debug on ticket:
http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666
I am not sure if this is the right place to send this, but here is my
out put.
Testing against an AT&T 3G 71234G (3022) SIM card. I am in Livermore
CA, USA. I have the basic AT&T contract.
-Adam
# ./gsm_log -a at_c
Wow. I'm surprised it hasn't been worked out yet. Seems like the most
fundamental capability for an internet-enabled phone to have (second only to
being able to make phone calls.)
I'll try to follow some of other people's instructions (they seem to be
scattered all over the place) and see if I ca
Josh,
Not sure if that question was directed to me or Ian. I assume Ian, but maybe
I can take a stab at it.
Unless I'm completely misunderstanding, you're asking if it's possible to
create an SSH connection to your phone via a wireless network?
I can do that, if my phone is connected to my home
Thanks marek.
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On Tuesday, 29. July 2008 19:19:10 Al Johnson wrote:
> Whethe
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:05:35 +0800 Marek Lindner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Do you mean that sentence:
> "we are paid by openmoko to do what we are told to do by the design
> department and that is what we then do." If that's the state of things for
> paid developers, then community contri
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Andy Green <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> | Hi.
> |
> |> I did an okpg ugrade on ASU image and got the following:
> |> Configur
Many thanks for the direct answers. This is what I've been hoping for. I'll
snip most of it to keep the length reasonable.
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, William Lai wrote:
> No bad intentions for snipping,
> Just trying to get to the facts:
>
> Brian C wrote:
Snipped
> > 3) If the design department is
Are you able to make and receive calls?
If not, perhaps the sim isn't touching all the phone's connections.
At least, that's the problem I had when I tried to connect to AT&T. It would
show that I had 5 bars, but it would always say "Registering...".
I was able to wiggle the sim a little, reboo
Hi Yaroslav and all the good contributors to Freerunner,
I got a short answer on your second question :)
On Tuesday 29. July 2008, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> another question (sorry if I missed answer in some of the threads) -- I
> wonder if you are the only person dedicated by Trolltech (or N
Is it feasible to have illume detect that an application isn't
capable/interested in sending the signal to bring up the keyboard?
Also, would the openmoko design team be willing to consider a toggle in the
configuration menu between manual and automatic?
I have a portable bluetooth keyboard (S
On Wednesday, 30. July 2008 04:57:27 Chris Wright wrote:
> Where I work, the design team is the same as the development team.
May I ask where you work and what kind of consumer products you are creating ?
> Something as simple as a keyboard button -- well, users were
> complaining about its lack
On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:12:08 +0100 Al Johnson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
>
> ok. now in illume svn there is code to confiugre what keyboard you want
> (illume's, none at all (which means if qpe provides one that will be used),
> or some other o
On Wed, 30 Jul 2008 02:09:03 +0100 Al Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
babbled:
> On Tuesday 29 July 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
> > On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:12:08 +0100 Al Johnson
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> >
> > ok. now in illume svn there is code to confiugre what keyboard you want
> > (illu
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:56:23 -0400 Daniel Benoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:
> Is it feasible to have illume detect that an application isn't
> capable/interested in sending the signal to bring up the keyboard?
with the matchbox protocol - it is not possible. with the new protocol i put in
(whic
Dimitri wrote:
> Are you able to make and receive calls?
>
> If not, perhaps the sim isn't touching all the phone's connections.
>
> At least, that's the problem I had when I tried to connect to AT&T. It would
> show that I had 5 bars, but it would always say "Registering...".
>
> I was able to wig
On Wednesday 30 July 2008, Marek Lindner wrote:
> On Wednesday, 30. July 2008 04:57:27 Chris Wright wrote:
> > Something as simple as a keyboard button -- well, users were
> > complaining about its lack very quickly. If the design team were also
> > users, then they would have insisted that the err
On Wednesday, 30. July 2008 08:15:52 Adam Talbot wrote:
> There is a new bit of debug on ticket:
> http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/666
>
> I am not sure if this is the right place to send this, but here is my
> out put.
Please inform the devel or support list about your results. Also, it may
On Wednesday, 30. July 2008 06:13:02 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> After an 'opkg update' today, I did a 'opkg -test upgrade'. And opkg
> still wants to install a Neo1973 kernel on my FreeRunner:
> Is there a way to tell 'opkg upgrade' to upgrade everything except the
> kernel?
Please open a bug rep
Hi Michele,
> Cristopher, let me to understand why you are so in angry.
Forgive me if I came across as very angry. I actually am not. I am
frustrated, but I do not find fault with anyone in this regard.
> Like you I sent my 350 Eur postcard (= 2 month of my house rent) for a
> phone that I was
Paul,
I inexperience the same behavior on the AT&T(850 & 1900) network. When
the signal drops below a certain level on the left is says
registering on the right the signal icon indicates some bogus value..
I think there is an update issue with the icon, and the message for no
service, "r
I am new to this kind of project. How do I attach a log to the bug, and
what is the e-mail for the devel list.
-Adam
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:19 +0800, Marek Lindner wrote:
> On Wednesday, 30. July 2008 08:15:52 Adam Talbot wrote:
> > There is a new bit of debug on ticket:
> > http://docs.openmo
And, of course, you asked to SSH into your phone, not sftp. D'oh.
In this case, using lint-wifi's status tab, you can see what IP your router
has assigned to your phone, then open a terminal window and type:
ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] for your device]
leave the password empty
D
Dimitri wrote:
>
>
On Wednesday, 30. July 2008 10:18:33 Al Johnson wrote:
> I agree with everything you say here. The keyboard should just appear when
> I want it and disappear when I don't. The absence of a manual override
> means that whenever it gets it wrong I can't correct it, the worst case
> being when I need
On Wednesday, 30. July 2008 10:44:36 Adam Talbot wrote:
> I am new to this kind of project. How do I attach a log to the bug, and
> what is the e-mail for the devel list.
There is a list of current attachments and underneath you find a button
called "attach file". :-)
Here you can find the inte
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 01:47:29AM +0100, Al Johnson wrote:
> I'll snip most of it to keep the length reasonable.
same here :)
> On Tuesday 29 July 2008, William Lai wrote:
> >
> > It already is.
> > We've offered a couple of different solutions to community requests that
> > were declined by, we
Scott wrote:
> Charles,
>
> While that is a means of bringing the keyboard button back, thats just
> too damn hard! And I have to do that all over again if I upgrade!
>
> Needs to be a simple configuration setting.
Agreed, but I was just replying to that part:
> if you HAVE to leave them out c
On 7/29/08 Marcus Bauer wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-07-28 at 15:33 -0700, steve wrote:
> > > Of course!!! Every toolkit is allowed.
> > >
> > > The whole point about FSO is to free people to pick their toolkit!
>
> The opposite is true. FSO forces you into ASU. It basically makes all
> work that has b
On 7/29/08 Stroller wrote:
> Initially I was
> really angry about the whole removal-of-the-keyboard-button-by-
> shadowy-designers thing, and I've come to realise it's irrelevant and
>
> that I was stupid to get upset about it.
Please don't think it's irrelevant. It's anything but. This is t
On 7/29/08 ian douglas wrote:
> I feel that Sean has just given us (or perhaps just reiterated what
> should have already been known), as a community, the means to empower
> ourselves to help on *everything* about the Openmoko project as a
> whole.
> We wanted an open platform, and it's been given
On 7/29/08 david varnes wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 4:22 AM, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> [snip]
> > >
> > > Think of our products as museums. We're building the environment.
>
> I re-read Sean's post a couple of time (like a few people I am
> guessing :-)
> For some of
Scott wrote:
> Why do the latest ASU folders not have the kernel or root file system
> files?
>
AFAIK if they are no changed, they don't appear again.
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On Wednesday 30 July 2008 04:37:20 Christopher White wrote:
Hi Cristopher, let me to understand why you are so in angry.
> My frustration comes off as anger because I just can't seem to figure
> out where to go at times. I know I signed up for a tough road, and I am
> not afraid to rollup my sle
> Upgrading kernel on root from
> 2:2.6.24+git25+8533927964761f4e2078ccd8607b90f5acc60b93-r0 to
> 2:2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae49caf2-r1...
> Downloading
> http://downloads.openmoko.org/openmoko-repository/ASU/neo1973/kernel_2.6.24+git75929+66a83c97c4545ce4f07e0d90998f906fae
On 7/30/08 Daniel Benoy wrote:
> Also, would the openmoko design team be willing to consider a toggle
> in the configuration menu between manual and automatic?
What we want is for people to add their own configuration options to
menus in the form of packages installable from the "Installer". Th
Knut Yrvin wrote:
> Hi Yaroslav and all the good contributors to Freerunner,
>
> I got a short answer on your second question :)
>
> On Tuesday 29. July 2008, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
>
>
>> another question (sorry if I missed answer in some of the threads) -- I
>> wonder if you are the only p
Hi all!
Well, I'm a little new to this (as I'm sure everybody says when they are
posting for the first time), but I was wondering, how can I free up space on
the neo? Are there any packages that are not necessary? I somehow find
myself using up 99% of space after doing an 'upgrade'. I would like t
Hi all.
My contacts are all in my sim card.
I can't use them on OM (with the image 20080722 but I couldn't with the
release too) because they are in international format and they all miss
the '+' at the beginning.
When I boot with Qtopia, the '+' is present and contacts can be used.
does somebody
> Back in the glorious days of Qtopia2 (o zauri, where are thou?), there
> was an X server running on top of Qt-embedded. I'm pretty sure it
> stalled since then, but one can give it a try
> (http://xqt.sourceforge.jp/).
>
> BTW, it might have been a quicker way to reach the "let's run random X
>
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