Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

*I was really confused when I read this story of allegation here.* *I fully support the view of Mr Noah, who came out with more clarifications on the matter.* *So please my dear brother Sunday, kindly step down from the board of Directors for the sake of the Afrinic business, as many are trying to

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

Dear community members, I am in full agreement with you Barry! Dear Sunday, 1. You are tearing down the community. It is not fair what you're doing and neither is it worth it. 2. You are exhibiting malice and corruption and that's the last thing the community needs. 3. You have been unethical and

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

Hi Isabel, > PS. Is Hytham laying low hoping to be forgotten? He doesn't seem to have been the person violating the NDA, so that part of the accusation doesn't relate to him. Cheers, Sander signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP ___

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

Sorry, Someone remind me, what was the allegation against Hytham again? walu. On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 3:28 PM, Isabel Odida wrote: > Dear community members, > > I am in full agreement with you Barry! > Dear Sunday, > 1. You are tearing down the community. It is not fair what you're doing > and

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

Dear all, I seem to get a general sense that the sexual allegations are a lesser concern to this community than the NDA violation. To me, both offenses carry the same weight and therefore should be treated with the same level of urgency. One of the reasons more women are not in this tech Industry

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

Dear Evelyn, Regardless of which allegations are of more or less concern to the community, all allegations will be investigated. As the community was informed earlier, the Board has asked the Governance Committee to report back to the Board by 30 April 2018. Alan Barrett

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

Hi Evelyn, > I seem to get a general sense that the sexual allegations are a lesser > concern to this community than the NDA violation. To me, both offenses carry > the same weight and therefore should be treated with the same level of > urgency. I personally feel that the sexual allegations a

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

Hi Evelyn, I just wanted to clarify at least from my standpoint – in no way do I view the sexual harassment allegations as any less serious than the NDA violations. I simply strongly believe that the NDA violations are already proven and admitted to – which means they can be dealt with immedia

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

Thank you, Andrew and Sander. Thank you, Alan, for your input too, we'll wait for the report back from the governance committee by 30th April. On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Andrew Alston < andrew.als...@liquidtelecom.com> wrote: > Hi Evelyn, > > > > I just wanted to clarify at least from my s

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

And see - Sorry Alan, but I view this as entirely unacceptable. There is precedent at play here - when the NDA violations in the past were admitted - board members were asked to vacate there seats with immediate effect. Where they chose to be investigated and have hearings held - those hearing

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

> On 22 Mar 2018, at 18:23, Andrew Alston > wrote: > > The GC has been tasked to report back to the board with TOR’s – that does not > even finalize the investigation – that means effectively that the > investigation may not start until the 1st of May No, the investigation is supposed to b

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

Alan, Can the board then please provide an updated resolution that says that- because that is NOT what the resolution currently says – The resolution reads: RESOLVED to request the Governance Committee to develop Terms of Reference for an independent investigation, and to appoint an Investiga

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

I personally think this needs to be addressed correctly and not go around and around via this discussion group any longer, which will ultimately get very messy If this was a reputable company, all staff involved in both incidents would be suspended immediately and due to the severity of each is

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

> On 22 Mar 2018, at 18:54, Andrew Alston > wrote: > > Alan, > > Can the board then please provide an updated resolution that says that- > because that is NOT what the resolution currently says – > > The resolution reads: > > RESOLVED to request the Governance Committee to develop Terms

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

+1 From: Wayne Diamond Date: Thursday, March 22, 2018 at 5:56 PM To: Andrew Alston , Alan Barrett , General Discussions of AFRINIC Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment I personally think this needs to be addressed correctly and not go around and around via this

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, 5:57 p.m. Wayne Diamond, wrote: > > Some body from the AfriNic board that is *NOT* implicated in either the > harassment or breach of NDA needs to take control *now* and make a > decisive statement to the community in the very near future (as in 72 > hours) in order to inform

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

This seems to be handled lightly by the board. "Solidarity"? Very inappropriate. If it doesn't act _now_, the community should take its responsibility and request a replacement of the full board in Dakar. Boubakar On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 3:39 PM, Noah wrote: > On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, 5:57 p.m. W

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

This is not the point where we should be begging we all know what transpires when there is a breach of NDA and all the emails have clearly justified, AFRINIC is run by the community, is this the example that our leaders are giving to to the community? The community has spoken and there clear Rule

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

> On Mar 22, 2018, at 07:08, Evelyn Namara wrote: > > Dear all, > > I seem to get a general sense that the sexual allegations are a lesser > concern to this community than the NDA violation. To me, both offenses carry > the same weight and > therefore should be treated with the same level of

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

Olutaya On Thu, 22 Mar 2018, 7:25 p.m. Sunday Olutayo, wrote: > I believe in justice, and it can only be obtained or dispersed through due > process. > Sunday wrote. While I categorically deny any claims of any harassment levied at me, and believe these allegations are entirely spurious, And

[Community-Discuss] Update from the Board regarding recent allegations

Dear AFRINIC community, The AFRINIC Board has held several meetings recently, including a special meeting today (22 March 2018) to discuss the recent allegations. The Board recognises the severity and importance of the allegations, and intends to act as quickly as reasonable, but without undue

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 6:30 PM, Noah wrote: > > Sunday went on. > >> I do acknowledge that I shared a chat (with the best intentions) which > should have been treated with more caution, no matter how good the > intention was. > > You seem to be unbothered that a board member took upon himself t

Re: [Community-Discuss] Update from the Board regarding recent allegations

My only and last comment on this: there is life after AfriNIC (board and staff). At least, it should be. We however hope continuous contributions after board and staff positions (we have seen occurrences of the contrary). Personally, I would be very embarrassed struggling to keep whatever position

[Community-Discuss] How to add Board suspension and removal procedure by members in AfriNIC’s Bylaws

March 22, 2018 Governance Committee African Network Information centre (AFRINIC) 11th Floor, Standard Chartered Tower 19, Cybercity Ebène Republic of Mauritius Attention: Wafa Dahmani, Chair of the Governance Committee Attention: Alan Barret, Chief Executive Officer Attention: Chairman

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

A lot thing are being through out here. I need one clarification at this stage. May be am not getting the point very well. Dear Alan, are you then saying that NDA violation is still an « allegation » that need to be investigated? thanks, Raz > Le 22 mars 2018 à 15:15, Alan Barrett

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

I also personally think that things are getting more and more messy now. Action need to be taken. This is supposed to be bottom up organization. What am seing here is that a lot of voice coming from the bottom for action. So the top should clearly stated if they gonna take action or not. And the

Re: [Community-Discuss] Update from the Board regarding recent allegations

OH Ok I have the answer to one of my previous question here: > The Board is seeking legal advice on whether or not there has been a breach > of any NDA, and expects to receive an answer by 30 March 2018. That said, i can understand clearly that the acknowledge from the person itself was a mist

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

+1 Raz > Le 22 mars 2018 à 15:53, Wayne Diamond > a écrit : > > I personally think this needs to be addressed correctly and not go around and > around via this discussion group any longer, which will ultimately get very > messy > > If this was a reputable company

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

Why is judgment being pass without investigation and hearing? Why are some people eager to be the hangmen without due process? I believe in justice, and it can only be obtained or dispersed through due process. We can not be passing judgment of yet to be proofed allegations. So let follow due p

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

One becomes a board member as result of the will of the community through an election. The ultimate owner of AFRINIC is the community. The community is saying it has lost faith in the office bearer investigation or not since what the office bearer has admitted to is enough for community to fe

Re: [Community-Discuss] Allegation of Harassment

> On 23 Mar 2018, at 00:46, Raz BIRAMAH wrote: > > Dear Alan, are you then saying that NDA violation is still an « allegation » > that need to be investigated? NDA violation is an allegation that has been made by some in the community. The actions that give rise to the allegation have been

Re: [Community-Discuss] Update from the Board regarding recent allegations

Sent from my iPhone On 23 Mar 2018, at 00:13, Raz BIRAMAH via Community-Discuss mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net>> wrote: OH Ok I have the answer to one of my previous question here: The Board is seeking legal advice on whether or not there has been a breach of any NDA, and expects to r