Re: [Community_garden] Assistance with Project

So sorry not to have replied prior to this; I'm always assuming that someone brighter or with more experience is available to reply to your request for information. If that's not the case and you still need more info than the use of a pressure cooker...for canning/bottleing...Try to get your

Re: [Community_garden] Tillage - Mike's right

Has he ever been wrong? Just teasing! It amazes me how some folks can be so rigid in their gardening. If anything the soils and the ever changing short season have taught me to be flexible. And it's always about your immediate microclimate...I keep trying this no till practice, haven't

Re: [Community_garden] Tilling - another perspective PS

Hey Mike, let me know when those T-shirts are ready! **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... UR

Re: [Community_garden] shoofly plant/himalayan balsam/invasive species

I'd guess that 90% of what gets planted up here at higher altitudes is indeed foreign to say the least. But devastating bio diversity? How can one tell, other than waiting "too long"? Thanks, great topic! Tina GivenTrees 7,000 feet in the Colorado Rockies **New MapQ

Re: [Community_garden] the how's and an odd question

Hi John, Boulder has a great community gardens, ( I think seven) do check them out so you're not trying to reinvent the wheel here. It's a big place and I'm sure there's always room for one more, but check out growinggardens.org I believe that's their site. Tina **Play onl

Re: [Community_garden] Colorado area

their own gardens. It seems to me that the community gardens really center themselves in more urban areas. But for sure, if any one would know it's the folks at DUG (Denver Urban Gardens) Very knowledgeable resources there; I believe it's dug.org. Good Luck Tina GivenT

Re: [Community_garden] communitty supported agricultture

I know, I should know better than to add to inflammatory posts such as these, but just can't read any more without putting my two cents in. Sir, It might surprise you to know that I read books and the list serve in the winter months. Your comments about the Milwaukee project as well as CSA

Re: [Community_garden] What to plant?

First off, Congratulations on starting your own garden! Including your 13 year old on what to plant is keen as kids always take more interest when they have a say about what get's planted. (And subsequently what they're going to eat.) While what you like to eat is the most important, in the

Re: [Community_garden] Pea & bean Inoculant

Are all inoculates "natural" and also thought this protected the seed from mold or rot during the germination stages; particularly in cooler climates where germination process may be slower? Or is it the nitrogen from the air that does this? Tina **Great Deals on Dell Laptops.

Re: [Community_garden] Rhizobium for peas and beans

Thanks for both clarifications, I don't use any pre-treated seeds, or chemical fertilizers, but thought maybe that was the same thing you were inoculating the seeds with. Ergo my huh? Do you know, in other parts of the country if hey call "treated seeds, inoculated seeds" or is that just pl

Re: [Community_garden] soil in Colorado

Contact CSU, they have done many soil tests in the past, but not sure of your specific area, nor their currant soil testing programs; long ago, they used to be free. I'm relatively sure they are not free any more, but check out their AG department, someone there is sure to assist, or dir

[Community_garden] jokes, politicians and old tires?

Wow, that's the last time I leave this list serve unattended for many days! Holy cow, or at least grass fed anyway. Is it just me or have the posts grown by leaps and bounds? Guess it's time to subscribe to the threads in the archives, but I'd miss the humor in between. Ah, I get it, Spr

[Community_garden] restoration

Was hoping to get comment and feed back on restoring soils, I'm contemplating taking on an old nursery/garden center. I know for sure, there have been many (20 plus) years of pesticide and herbicide use, the soils, if you could call them that are rocky, clay at best, this is where they sto

Re: [Community_garden] jokes, politicians and old tires?

Spring Fever, I guess, and it is good to see the list doing well and getting used, but one can only handle so many comments on politics in the gardens and old tires. But don't mistake the comments as "ready to drop this list"...no way, it gets me through the long , long winters. I've heard yo

Re: [Community_garden] restoration

Thanks all for the comments and ideas. I'm not sure you all understand what growing at zone four involves, there is no such thing as winter sowing outside up here. Winter temps can be very mild, but often enough temps will go from 0 to 60's within fourteen hours. I have studied and am f

Re: [Community_garden] restoration

Okey dokey all, hoop houses it is then. Thanks Ken, I did get the attachment. I take it that gamma is still the best 'cleanser' solution for the toxins? Times like this Elton's lyrics keep repeating in my head"...I should have stayed on the farm, I should have listen to my old man!" T

Re: [Community_garden] Milorganite

I almost hate to bring up the "B" word again, but was wondering if I was the last to find out that bio-solids are what's considered to be the "miracle worker" in eko compost? I continued to ask a distributor about this and he kept saying no, there weren't...I must have found an odd bag aroun

Re: [Community_garden] Fish make good fertilizer

Karen, I found the aquaponics a fascinating and creative way to grow food, for an urban community to grow food, yes, subsequently they grow fish as well, and yes, some of the posts do seem like self promoting infomercials. It's also an interesting way to show people a competed life cycle th

Re: [Community_garden] Good Night and Good Luck

O M G ! Unplug the computer for a few days of quiet seed starting and see what I missed? Mike, besides the knowledge you've imparted on this list, I will miss that great sense of humor, but above all you've long provided the voice of reason here. I mean no disrespect to the other regular c

Re: [Community_garden] Market codes for irradiated, GMO, organic or regular p...

Very interesting! Sure enough went to my fridge to check out these codes, so far nothing had been irradiated, and always buy organic, (well almost always) and the numbers you mentioned were right there... Could you tell us your source for this information, please? Thanks, Tina *

Re: [Community_garden] composter for those with disabilities

There are about as many ways to compost as there are ingredients that go into them. But it seems no one is addressing the ease of use for seniors or those with disabilities. Of course, depending on the disability I would think a tumbler kind (and there are about a hundred to choose from)

Re: [Community_garden] watering your plots/ illegal collection ofrainwater

l which is now up to over half the costs on the water bill. That may be another avenue to check out, apply for an "irrigation tap" our local board even donated the tap and we found a volunteer plumber to install! My two cents, Tina GivenTrees 7,000 feet up in the Rockies **

Re: [Community_garden] Long story short

Hey Fred, that is short, I miss your "stories" long or short! I guess my firstthought was; I wondered how things would have been if they got to the garden to pick their tomatoes and there were none, as someone beat them to the punch. Secondly what a shame to have vine ripe tomatoes and n

[Community_garden] gardens on rec district property

I am needing input from community gardens on local recreation district properties. I'd like the following questions answered from anyone who can. Would like hard facts if they exist. Surely someone out there has done these studies, and must be connected with this list. Or at least refer m

Re: [Community_garden] Common Circle Education and Monsanto for Scorpi-Wor...

holy samollies gardeners, it took me a few minutes to realize what day this is! Had me going there for the time it took to read. Very cute, still a little scary for the few minutes I'd forgotten fools day! however also so very, very appropriate to mention those who fool with mother nature

Re: [Community_garden] Common Circle Education and Monsanto for Scorpi-Wor...

yea..ha ha! Better watch it though as your spoof could give some of us old die hard hippies a stroke! tina -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:

[Community_garden] corn silk

I guess my question would be why fertilize when the corn is only one foot tall? I think it's more about the timing than the worm tea. Also if you had a sudden hot spell, that could cause the corn to silk prematurely. Good soil prep would also allow the corn to do it's own thing in it's ow

Re: [Community_garden] Critter problem??

Coming from someone who lives in both deer and elk country...get yourself a deep freeze and a shot gun! Seriously, I've tried every bell and whistle, gadget, gimmick and yes garlic both plant and spray there's just no sure fire way but fencing. But rebar and deer fence really don't cost th

[Community_garden] Florida growers

Looking for community gardeners in or around Bradenton/Sarasota Florida, would like some information on growing there. I am from Colorado so I am sure Florida is like another planet Any one out there from this list serve? Thanks Tina ** See what'

Re: [Community_garden] Food safe garden hoses

Sorry this info has taken so long. The "food and drink safe" hose we got was from Great Terrain, Broomfield Colorado. _www.greatterrain.com_ (http://www.greatterrain.com) They are not cheap by any means, but they are warranted for three years. Tina *

Re: [Community_garden] 3 methods of Organic Rat Control

I'm all for harming none, but I don't think the rats know that tune. Perhaps the person that charmed the yellow jackets could play Pied Piper! In a message dated 12/23/2007 2:37:54 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I applaud your Buddhist attitude here, but I perso

Re: [Community_garden] Community_garden Digest, Vol 329, Issue 1

Ditto # 7 I think this list serve is great and enjoy all the reading! But the humor is most important during these weeks of snow and cold. I've yet to see anything I didn't think was appropriate, but that last entries on "etiquette" reminds me a tad of an old Cheech and Chong skit, Sister

Re: [Community_garden] pumpkins

Yes, thanks for that reminder as I did save seeds from my largest, earliest ripening pumpkin, as up at 7000 feet that is my first priority. To my knowledge, there were no other squash of any kind planted with a miles radius to cross with. The seeds I planted were organic, or ,so they said.

Re: [Community_garden] random half dead oak

Being a transplant from the mid west, now living at too high of an altitude, we have no indigenous hardwoods up here at all. I'd rather nurture a half dead oak than no oak at all. And if my nurturing wasn't good enough I'd sure relish burning it on this cold winter's day. (So whose to say

Re: [Community_garden] the list as a class tool

Hi there, Tina here from the Rocky Mountain state of Colorado. I apologize if this is a repeat, I may have missed a few comments. I hope your plan or garden design includes an area for a children's garden. Where they plant, weed, water and generally tend all they choose to grow. If

Re: [Community_garden] Chickens in Community Gardens

Hi Annie, Something about chickens and public spaces makes me think you might want to contact the CDC about avian contamination risk factors. I certainly don't know much about the science here, but have heard enough from others who raise chickens for the public, they have to go through

[Community_garden] Trex or other building material

Hey all, I'm looking for material to build raised beds, cold frames etc. to grow organic veggies in. Trying NOT to cut any trees or use traditional lumber material. I've always heard redwood was the best wood to use, but looking for alternatives. I think there had been a discussion here

Re: [Community_garden] Trex or other building material

Sorry, I guess when I replied to the first comment I didn't hit the "reply to all" ... Sorry not being specific enough, higher altitudes in Colorado where some folks absolutely need to build up sides, as they live on granite! Very little if any soils at ground level to work with, best ca

Re: [Community_garden] Trex or other building material

Currently looking at the potential for a grant (or deep discounts) from a box stores like Home Depot or Lowe's, and companies like Trex. I do need to provide (prove) the organic/green aspects of these so called boxes. It serves a few purposes: * a place for people with no real plac

Re: [Community_garden] Trex or other building material

fact any, company who may donate. I didn't get a lot of luck last year with the corporate end of Trex, said they'd get back to me, but never did. Home Depot and Lowe's however, have been pretty good about funding community projects. (They only carry the Trex out here

Re: [Community_garden] sandbag the poop, waddles and wood

If you're not willing to eat it, don't put it on your veggies! How's that for a rule of thumb? That's how I've talked several gardeners off the Milorganite. But first I have to tell the dodos what Milorganite stands for then ask them if they'd like to take a mouth full! I'm sure this s

Re: [Community_garden] Re. tires and biosolids

Not that I disagree with Don's comments about we use them, "we benefit we ought to help solve the problem" But when are we going to get some inspiring legislature that states something as simple as you make it, you insure it's recycle-ability! You know dang well, if they weren't allowed to

Re: [Community_garden] Soil Amendments

tle about adding gypsum to comment. Hope that helps a bit, and yes I have used those above products on my food garden. Although I always prefer waiting a few weeks to plant, to give the amendments time to work in. Tina GivenTrees In Colorado **Create a Home Thea

[Community_garden] Wood Chips

I have a question concerning wood chips, particularly here in Colorado where the pine beetle rages out of control regardless of chemical applications. It seems most if not all of the tons and tons of free wood chips come from those beetle infected trees. Now, in efforts to get rid of this

Re: [Community_garden] Wood Chips

I DO use wood chips in my garden paths, but I am fortunate enough to have several old cottonwood trees, well, some might say UN fortunate, however they have not been sprayed, nor invested. I'm just not sure about all the pine in this particular area. Does anyone know for sure whether A) be

Re: [Community_garden] mission statement

BRAVO That truly is what it's all about! Beautiful statement about those who put that garden together. Thanks for the lift! Tina **Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg0005000102) -- next

[Community_garden] Organic solutions for ants

Hi all, I'm looking for suggestions for organic solutions for a nasty infestation of carpenter ants. We've tried mints and tansy, several other smelling herbs, nothing is deterring these buggers! Short of tearing down this old railroad tie retaining wall, four foot high by about forty feet