Re: [Housebot-developers] [computer-go] ReadyFreddy on CGOS

2007-09-27 Thread Jason House
I've kicked off another all moves as first variant. I think it matches all recommendations on how to improve the all moves as first performance, but still appears to be quite weak. http://cgos.boardspace.net/9x9/cross/hb-amaf2.html Here's all the variants that have now run on CGOS. Descriptions

Re: [Housebot-developers] [computer-go] ReadyFreddy on CGOS

2007-09-27 Thread steve uurtamo
Are you getting the same number of playouts as everyone else? s. - Original Message From: Jason House <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: computer-go Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:33:14 AM Subject: Re: [Housebot-developers] [computer-go] ReadyFreddy on CGOS I've kicked off another all move

Re: [Housebot-developers] [computer-go] ReadyFreddy on CGOS

2007-09-27 Thread Jason House
On 9/27/07, steve uurtamo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are you getting the same number of playouts as > everyone else? > That varies wildly from bot to bot. DoDo (not online right now) does 64 sims (weak - 800 ELO) ReadyFreddy does 500 sims Control Boy does 5,000 sims (> 1400 ELO) hb-amaf2 does

Re: [Housebot-developers] [computer-go] ReadyFreddy on CGOS

2007-09-27 Thread Urban Hafner
On Sep 27, 2007, at 15:52 , Jason House wrote: Three more AMAF bots exist (that I'm aware of), but the author(s) have not joined into the discussions ego_allfirst2 (> 1400 ELO) libEGO_AMAF libEGO-AMAF is based on libEGO (v0.114). The way it works is like this: 1. Find all legal moves and r

Re: [computer-go] ego110_allfirst on CGOS

2007-09-27 Thread Jason House
On 9/24/07, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My impression is that you over-engineer (or over-think) everything. You > try to improve on something before you've implemented something that is > simple and you know works reasonably well. > My latest timing implementation is available under

Re: [Housebot-developers] [computer-go] ReadyFreddy on CGOS

2007-09-27 Thread Don Dailey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I added 2 bots: Anchor_1k GenAnchor_1k I'm not positive I found the correct source code, but I believe this is the standard AnchorMan code. Anchor_1k is AnchorMan running at 1000 simulations. GenAnchor_1k is AnchorMan WITHOUT the move inc

Re: [computer-go] ego110_allfirst on CGOS

2007-09-27 Thread Don Dailey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Do you have a 1k version you can put up of the implementation that is supposed to mimic what I do? It should compare very close to GenAnchor_1k. If you can get that working then you can start with that as your reference bot and make improvements fro

Re: [computer-go] ego110_allfirst on CGOS

2007-09-27 Thread Don Dailey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The version source I am looking at, does all-as-first and considers 7/8 of the moves. The exact code for maximum move number to consider is: max = p->ctm + 2 + ( ecount - (ecount >> 3) ); where max is maximum move number (or ply of game) and ecoun

Re: [computer-go] ego110_allfirst on CGOS

2007-09-27 Thread Jason House
I'll put up a 1k version with 7/8 tonight. PS: The newer timing code is not in the experimental amaf branch of bots. All I've changed from the original amaf is what I've indicated in the ReadyFreddy thread. On 9/27/07, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >

Re: [computer-go] ego110_allfirst on CGOS

2007-09-27 Thread Jason House
On 9/27/07, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You should experiment a little to get the best settings but this > depends somewhat on the level. For 1000 sims 7/8 is probably > better than the 5/8 I told you previously, which was apparently > the wrong number or I have the wrong source code