[computer-go] Re: mogo beats pro!

2008-08-07 Thread Dave Dyer
I watched all the games, and I must say, mogo performed really badly at the blitz games, and quite a bit better at the 1-hour game. I'd still take any claims of dan level play with lots of salt. My take-away from watching the match is that blitz performance wasn't at all representative. A human

Re: [computer-go] mogo beats pro!

2008-08-07 Thread Darren Cook
> ... no book, no joseki,...Mogo generated joseki from whole cloth. > ... > seemed to me that, as Mogo was given more time, its opening and > middlegame play was markedly better. If it is basically reinventing opening theory from scratch each time then that makes sense. (Though I suppose there is

Re: [computer-go] mogo beats pro!

2008-08-07 Thread Rémi Coulom
Well done, Mogo team ! terry mcintyre wrote: moves,” like those in the lower right-hand corner, where Moyogo took Typo :-) Rémi ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/

Re: [computer-go] mogo beats pro!

2008-08-07 Thread terry mcintyre
To answer one other question: we were told that Mogo scales linearly. The supercomputer has a very high-bandwidth interconnect. The Mogo team was unable to release more architectural details at this time. To reiterate on another question, from what the team said, no book, no joseki, just raw s

Re: [computer-go] mogo beats pro!

2008-08-07 Thread terry mcintyre
We had a bit of discussion w/ the Mogo team after the match. ( I am writing this from the US Go Congress in Portlland, OR ), and Olivier said that Mogo no longer uses a book; it was found to be ineffective in their research. I am wondering, of course, if a book would be more effective now that M

Re: [computer-go] mogo beats pro!

2008-08-07 Thread Darren Cook
Great news. Well done to the Mogo team. John, if I can just find 3000 CPUs lying around I might actually win our bet ;-). > I do have to ask -- if 1.7 million playouts per second are required > and an hour of playing time are required to reach this level, ... Can Olivier give us more details. A

Re: [computer-go] mogo beats pro!

2008-08-07 Thread terry mcintyre
I enjoyed watching this game. Having trouble with KGS at the moment, or I'd send a game record. Having more time makes a very marked improvement in the quality of play, to a degree which surprised me. The first two games, at 10 and something between 10 and 15 minutes ( Mogo thought it only had

[computer-go] mogo beats pro!

2008-08-07 Thread terry mcintyre
This is from the AGA newsletter: COMPUTER BEATS PRO AT U.S. GO CONGRESS: In a historic achievement, the MoGo computer program defeated Myungwan Kim 8P (l) Thursday afternoon by 1.5 points in a 9-stone game billed as “Humanity’s Last Stand?” “It played really well,” said Kim, who estimated MoGo’s

[computer-go] Gnugo-3.7.10-a3

2008-08-07 Thread Christoph Birk
Achor 'Gnugo-3.7.10-a3' loses a lot on time. Christoph ___ computer-go mailing list computer-go@computer-go.org http://www.computer-go.org/mailman/listinfo/computer-go/