[computer-go] IEEE T-CIAIG Special Issue on Monte Carlo Techniques and Computer Go

2009-09-24 Thread Olivier Teytaud
IEEE Transactions on Computational Intelligence and AI in Games Special Issue on Monte Carlo Techniques and Computer Go Special-issue editors: Chang-Shing Lee, Martin Müller, Olivier Teytaud In the last few years Monte Carlo Tree Search (MCTS) has revolutionised Computer Go, with MCTS programs

[computer-go] is Zen gone commercial?

2009-09-24 Thread Willemien
not so long ago (after its win in the computer olympiad) it was announced (or was it just a rumour) that Zen would come publicly available or available as commercial package. Any news about this?. ___ computer-go mailing list

Re: [computer-go] is Zen gone commercial?

2009-09-24 Thread Yamato
Willemien wrote: not so long ago (after its win in the computer olympiad) it was announced (or was it just a rumour) that Zen would come publicly available or available as commercial package. It is already shipped in Japan, as Tencho no Igo. The product's name in English is Zenith Go. (Tencho =

Re: [computer-go] is Zen gone commercial?

2009-09-24 Thread Darren Cook
It is already shipped in Japan, as Tencho no Igo. http://soft.mycom.co.jp/pcigo/tencho/index.html Looks like Windows only. Anyone know if it will run under wine on linux? They are advertising it as 2-dan (i.e. Japanese 2-dan). A rather pricey 13,400 yen, or 10,752 yen ($120) online. Darren

Re: [computer-go] is Zen gone commercial?

2009-09-24 Thread Darren Cook
They are advertising it as 2-dan (i.e. Japanese 2-dan). Sorry, I skimmed it too quickly. It actually says: KGS 2-dan, which is equivalent to Japanese Nihon Kiin 3-4 dan. Darren -- Darren Cook, Software Researcher/Developer http://dcook.org/gobet/ (Shodan Go Bet - who will win?)

Re: [computer-go] is Zen gone commercial?

2009-09-24 Thread Jim O'Flaherty, Jr.
Darren, If it doesn't work on Wine, you could always load a VM, like Sun's VirtualBox, install a copy of Windows in that and play from there. VirtualBox has very good performance metrics at above 95% of max (non VM) speed. And there's plenty of throw-away copies of XP licenses available all

Re: [computer-go] is Zen gone commercial?

2009-09-24 Thread Yamato
Darren Cook wrote: They are advertising it as 2-dan (i.e. Japanese 2-dan). Sorry, I skimmed it too quickly. It actually says: KGS 2-dan, which is equivalent to Japanese Nihon Kiin 3-4 dan. Actually it is a little misleading. They didn't say that the commercial version is KGS 2d :-) Its 2-dan

RE: [computer-go] IEEE T-CIAIG Special Issue on Monte Carlo Techniques and Computer Go

2009-09-24 Thread David Fotland
Before monte carlo I spent a couple of years writing and tuning an alpha-beta searcher. It's still in there and I ship it to provide the lower playing levels. Alpha-beta with limited time makes much prettier moves than monte carlo. Would there be interest in a paper that compares the same

Re: [SPAM] RE: [computer-go] IEEE T-CIAIG Special Issue on Monte Carlo Techniques and Computer Go

2009-09-24 Thread Olivier Teytaud
Before monte carlo I spent a couple of years writing and tuning an alpha-beta searcher. It's still in there and I ship it to provide the lower playing levels. Alpha-beta with limited time makes much prettier moves than monte carlo. Would there be interest in a paper that compares the

[computer-go] Generalizing RAVE

2009-09-24 Thread Peter Drake
RAVE is part of a larger family of algorithms. In general we can use direct Monte-Carlo results (i.e., the move played directly from a node) to determine the probability of winning after playing such a move. The generalized RAVE (GRAVE?) family does this by including (usually with some

Re: [computer-go] Generalizing RAVE

2009-09-24 Thread Yamato
Peter Drake wrote: The more I study this and try different variants, the more impressed I am by RAVE. Boards after the current board is a very clever way of defining similarity. Also, recorded RAVE playouts, being stored in each node, expire in an elegant way. It still seems that RAVE fails

Re: [computer-go] Generalizing RAVE

2009-09-24 Thread terry mcintyre
Peter Drake wrote: The more I study this and try different variants, the more impressed I am by RAVE. Boards after the current board is a very clever way of defining similarity. Also, recorded RAVE playouts, being stored in each node, expire in an elegant

RE: [computer-go] Generalizing RAVE

2009-09-24 Thread David Fotland
Tried CRAVE also, using 3x3 patterns as the context. It didn't work. David -Original Message- From: computer-go-boun...@computer-go.org [mailto:computer-go- boun...@computer-go.org] On Behalf Of Peter Drake Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 12:00 PM To: Computer Go Subject: