Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study. Time and memory

2008-02-22 Thread Don Dailey
Alain Baeckeroot wrote: > Le vendredi 22 février 2008, Sylvain Gelly a écrit : > >> 2008/2/22, Alain Baeckeroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >>> Le jeudi 21 février 2008, Don Dailey a écrit : >>> > If you look at the table you will notice that going from level 4 to >>> > level 11 (which is 7

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study. Time and memory

2008-02-22 Thread Alain Baeckeroot
Le vendredi 22 février 2008, Sylvain Gelly a écrit : > 2008/2/22, Alain Baeckeroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Le jeudi 21 février 2008, Don Dailey a écrit : > > > If you look at the table you will notice that going from level 4 to > > > level 11 (which is 7 doublings and should take 128X longer)

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study. Time and memory

2008-02-22 Thread Sylvain Gelly
2008/2/22, Alain Baeckeroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Le jeudi 21 février 2008, Don Dailey a écrit : > > If you look at the table you will notice that going from level 4 to > > level 11 (which is 7 doublings and should take 128X longer) only takes > > 59.43 X longer. > > > > So if we plot 9X9 r

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study. Time and memory

2008-02-22 Thread Alain Baeckeroot
Le jeudi 21 février 2008, Don Dailey a écrit : > If you look at the table you will notice that going from level 4 to > level 11 (which is 7 doublings and should take 128X longer) only takes > 59.43 X longer. > So if we plot 9X9 rank vs time, maybe we have a straight line :) ELO vs size of the t

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study.

2008-02-21 Thread terry mcintyre
--- Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's also interesting how the graph up to level 11 > seems to form 2 very > straight lines, almost as if they were connected at > an angle. > > This must be a by-product of how we started the > test. We played only > the first 4 levels as we were tes

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study.

2008-02-21 Thread Heikki Levanto
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 04:08:56PM -0500, Don Dailey wrote: > It's also interesting how the graph up to level 11 seems to form 2 very > straight lines, almost as if they were connected at an angle. > > This must be a by-product of how we started the test. We played only > the first 4 levels as w

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study.

2008-02-21 Thread Don Dailey
It's also interesting how the graph up to level 11 seems to form 2 very straight lines, almost as if they were connected at an angle. This must be a by-product of how we started the test. We played only the first 4 levels as we were testing the system and that is where the "bend" point is.Th

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study.

2008-02-21 Thread Sylvain Gelly
Hi Don, 2008/2/21, Don Dailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > If you look at the table you will notice that going from level 4 to level > 11 (which is 7 doublings and should take 128X longer) only takes 59.43 X > longer. > Mogo's "stop early" heuristic works better at longer levels. That is actually

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study.

2008-02-21 Thread Don Dailey
If you look at the table you will notice that going from level 4 to level 11 (which is 7 doublings and should take 128X longer) only takes 59.43 X longer. Some possible hypothesis: 1. Computer more loaded during early games? 2. Mogo resigns earlier at longer levels. 3. Mogo's "stop

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study.

2008-02-21 Thread Don Dailey
>> It would be great to get even more as we get into higher levels, as it >> will take a LOT of power to get a lot of games when each games takes 2 >> or 3 hours or more. >> > > Is it possible to have a indicative time and memory consumption at each > level, for 9x9 and 13x13 study ? > I gues

Re: [computer-go] 13x13 study.

2008-02-21 Thread Alain Baeckeroot
Le jeudi 21 février 2008, Don Dailey a écrit : > The study is running very well. We have 32 computers being used so > far, some participants are providing 2 (or even more) computers. > > It would be great to get even more as we get into higher levels, as it > will take a LOT of power to get

[computer-go] 13x13 study.

2008-02-21 Thread Don Dailey
The study is running very well. We have 32 computers being used so far, some participants are providing 2 (or even more) computers. It would be great to get even more as we get into higher levels, as it will take a LOT of power to get a lot of games when each games takes 2 or 3 hours or mor