Ingo Althöfer wrote:
Michael Goetze wrote:
I doubt that this rule has a significant effect on playing strength,
either of computers or humans. After all, the average effect is about
half a point per game, which you probably won't notice below the
level of amateur 6d or 7d.
You are right, and
On Sun, 2008-12-07 at 12:12 +0100, Rémi Coulom wrote:
> Ingo Althöfer wrote:
> >
> > Concerning the next Computer Olympiad and having in mind
> > the discussion on the last one ("how fair is 7.5 komi for
> > 9x9 computer games?") the WMSG scoring should be worth
> > to be discussed for 9x9.
> >
Ingo Althöfer wrote:
Concerning the next Computer Olympiad and having in mind
the discussion on the last one ("how fair is 7.5 komi for
9x9 computer games?") the WMSG scoring should be worth
to be discussed for 9x9.
Nobody will want such a scoring in computer go. It is not a matter of
addi
Michael Goetze wrote:
> I doubt that this rule has a significant effect on playing strength,
> either of computers or humans. After all, the average effect is about
> half a point per game, which you probably won't notice below the
> level of amateur 6d or 7d.
You are right, and I did not state
No, I wouldn't say that :) Read what I wrote...
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David Fotland wrote:
Semantics. If white passes first she has to give one more prisoner to black
than if black passes first. This changes the score by one point relative to
Japanese rules, which "has the same effect" as changing the komi by a point.
Of course I'm aware that the komi is not actu
changed.
David
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> David Fotland wrote
Your right. It depends on the komi, if it makes a difference.
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>> >> When White is the first player to pass than komi is changed
>> >> from 6.5 to 7.5 .
On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:02 PM, David Fotland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It should make almost no difference, since on odd sized boards with area
> counting the game result will be the same unless there is
David Fotland wrote:
AGA rules also have the effect of changing the komi depending on which
> side makes the last pass.
No, they don't. AGA rules are area-scoring rules and the komi is fixed.
(They also provide a method to determine the area-scoring result via
territory counting, but that's i
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> Subject: [computer-go] Re: WMSG - Scoring
>
> Michael Williams wrote:
> > Seems like MC and MCTS programs would cope just fine
> > after that one line of code is added.
>
> Ok, that is a technical answer. But ...
> ... what does the rule
Ingo Althöfer wrote:
Ok, that is a technical answer. But ...
... what does the rule change mean for strengths of
programs - especially in play against (strong) humans?
Would this rule help the computers or the humans?
I doubt that this rule has a significant effect on playing strength,
either
Michael Williams wrote:
> Seems like MC and MCTS programs would cope just fine
> after that one line of code is added.
Ok, that is a technical answer. But ...
... what does the rule change mean for strengths of
programs - especially in play against (strong) humans?
Would this rule help the comput
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