Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves

2009-02-10 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Art Clemons Peace is possible the day the Palestinian people want to live in peace. To date the majority has not so chosen. I do not support everything Israel does or has done, but until all their neighbors, including the Palestinians, accept its right to exist and live in peace, the war

Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves

2009-02-10 Thread John Emmerling
Hamas was launching rockets as recently a week ago (I won't vouch for the reliability of this NewsDaily site, so please corroborate for yourself): http://www.newsdaily.com/stories/tre5100oy-us-palestinians-israel/ On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Wayne Dernoncourt way...@panix.com wrote: But

Re: [CGUYS] Daisy-chain wired/wireless hubs/routers?

2009-02-10 Thread Jordan
Mike Sloane wrote: I have an office with an 8-port Ethernet router on a broadband cable connection. I have been requested the ability to provide some wireless capability temporarily (for outside auditors). I have a spare 4-port wired/wireless Linksys broadband router, and I was wondering if I

Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves

2009-02-10 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
John Emmerling Hamas was launching rockets as recently a week ago (I won't vouch for the reliability of this NewsDaily site, so please corroborate for yourself): I was talking about the suicide bombers. -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this,

Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves

2009-02-10 Thread Wayne Dernoncourt
Wayne Dernoncourt But they do get rockets, mortars and explosives into Gaza and the West Bank along with people who will kill themselves with the explosives (hmmm, that hasn't happened recently has it, at least I haven't seen it in the news). The focus of the Israeli's seems to be to stop

[CGUYS] Router security

2009-02-10 Thread Jordan
I am experimenting with WPA wireless security on my D-Link router. I thought it was working but then it stopped incoming or outgoing email. Web browsing was still working well. Email worked again when I shut security off. I have not seen anything yet that addresses problems or any particular

Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves

2009-02-10 Thread Matthew S. Taylor
The Israeli army forcibly evicted Israeli settlers from Gaza when Israel unilaterally withdrew from Gaza. The result was a violent Hamas takeover in Gaza, raids on Israeli border posts, the kidnapping of a soldier, and indiscriminate rocket fire from Hamas controlled Gaza into Israel.

Re: [CGUYS] Resodding the mall, was Re: [CGUYS] Senate Approves

2009-02-10 Thread John Emmerling
If you're talking about the recent unpleasantness in Gaza, then there are no disputed zones at issue. It is my impression that the rockets launched from Gaza (the stated provocation for the Israeli incursions into Gaza) have largely landed in neighboring parts of Israel e.g. Ashkelon. These

[CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]

2009-02-10 Thread b_s-wilk
Again, I was referring to contemporary usage of the terms liberal and conservative. If you looked at the link I gave, you will see that today the term liberal usually refers to Modern Liberal as described there. I cannot think of any modern conservatives who would side with the Tories. Modern

Re: [CGUYS] router security

2009-02-10 Thread B1suncat
Does WPA security close ports for mail? Different ports for secure email -- in, port 995 (SSL), out 587/465 (TLS/SSL) for TBird server settings. Betty Sent from my iPod Touch * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] Router security

2009-02-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
I am experimenting with WPA wireless security on my D-Link router. I thought it was working but then it stopped incoming or outgoing email. Web browsing was still working well. Email worked again when I shut security off. You need to find out what your router does when you turn security on. My

[CGUYS] Why Apple Will Prevail

2009-02-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
www.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/business/media/04adco.html I might as well quote the part our WFBs will want to see, to save them the trouble of repeating it ad nausium... The news was not all bad for Microsoft... * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] Why Apple Will Prevail

2009-02-10 Thread Tony B
Ha. Got me good for a minute, with gems like So far, Apple seems to be winning the fight. and Microsoft's current operating system, Windows Vista, is a well-known disappointment.. Until I looked up and saw it was an article not about computers, but about advertising. Good one. On Tue, Feb 10,

Re: [CGUYS] Why Apple Will Prevail

2009-02-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
Ha. Got me good for a minute, with gems like So far, Apple seems to be winning the fight. and Microsoft's current operating system, Windows Vista, is a well-known disappointment.. Until I looked up and saw it was an article not about computers, but about advertising. I was wondering how you would

Re: [CGUYS] Why Apple Will Prevail

2009-02-10 Thread Tony B
No, that part is pure fantasy. Talk about misinterpreting! Perhaps you're referring to the 2% share increase? Great. At that rate, Macs should reach 50% of the market somewhere around the year 2100. On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Ha. Got me good for a minute,

Re: [CGUYS] Why Apple Will Prevail

2009-02-10 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com: www.nytimes.com/2009/02/04/business/media/04adco.html I might as well quote the part our WFBs will want to see, to save them the trouble of repeating it ad nausium... The news was not all bad for Microsoft... Clearly, the guys a paid Microsoft shill.

Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]

2009-02-10 Thread Tom Piwowar
How do you preserve history and direct seekers to facts and rational discussions instead of getting lost and entangled in a jungle of disinformation and fantasy? How do we educate our children so that they have the ability to know the difference and discern truth/fact from fiction? Yesterday's

Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]

2009-02-10 Thread Steve at Verizon
I guess I shouldn't have delved into the tricky definitions of these terms. Let me try to clarify. From that site I referenced, I thought we could all agree with items 1-6, in that, most of us are small l liberal. I.e. we all agree with the same ends; equality under the law, equal opportunity,

Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]

2009-02-10 Thread Eric S. Sande
Was Ben Franklin conservative? Thomas Jefferson? James Madison? Not hardly. Very different men. Two Southern slaveholders (although Jefferson saw the contradiction with his thought) and a Northern Puritan (that wasn't all that pure). The uniting factor was distrust of a strong Federal

Re: [CGUYS] Redefining history [was: Taxes and good life]

2009-02-10 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009, Steve at Verizon wrote: Back to Scalia. I was impressed with his take on his (losing) vote on the Lawrence v. Texas ruling. He supported the legality of the legislation, that states can enact laws pertaining to morality, while at the same time saying that if he had been in