Re: [CGUYS] First OS X Botnet Said to be Activating

2009-04-18 Thread mike
Hasn't touched shareware/freeware on windows. On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Why would it have a negative impact on shareware/freeware? Because it would make folks terrified to install it.

Re: [CGUYS] CNET News.com: Apple tops PC customer satisfaction survey | Apple - CNET News

2009-04-18 Thread Jordan
I'm hoping this doesn't spur a lot of nastiness again, but this is a big reason why Mac owners tend to feel more warmly about their computers. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall wrote: Apple is the only company to receive a 'good' rating in a Forrester Research customer satisfaction survey, followed by

Re: [CGUYS] First OS X Botnet Said to be Activating

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Hasn't touched shareware/freeware on windows. Different kind of user. Windows users like the sense of adventure that comes from never knowing what will happen next -- computer as entertainment. Mac users see their computers as a means to and end -- computer as tool. If your computer is a

Re: [CGUYS] First OS X Botnet Said to be Activating

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
That's silly. Most people are either too scared or too confused about torrents to consider downloading programs--or anything else with BitTorrent. Probably don't know what it is. I wasn't writing about torrents. Though even torrents are used for useful things, like NASA's high-rez space photos.

Re: [CGUYS] iTunes: Crap or not. [Was: Launching iTunes on Wind

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Tom, I will grant you this. Perhaps this should accepted as a list standard. Except that this List doesn't do that. I'm not the thought police. And I don't see what the fuss is about. We are not here to worship. * **

[CGUYS] Vanishing Windows PC

2009-04-18 Thread Constance Warner
I have--or maybe make that HAD--a dual-boot Mac. I do nearly all my work on the Mac side and only turn to the PC side when I use Dragon Naturally Speaking [not available for Mac]. When I tried to get onto the Windows PC side last night, I couldn't. The Windows partition of the computer

Re: [CGUYS] First OS X Botnet Said to be Activating

2009-04-18 Thread mike
Different kind of user or not, the fact remains it hasn't touched the shareware/freeware side on windows. On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 6:35 AM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Hasn't touched shareware/freeware on windows. Different kind of user. Windows users like the sense of adventure that

Re: [CGUYS] Vanishing Windows PC

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
I would like to know: where is my Windows machine, how can I get it back, and is it likely to be hazardous to anyone's health [by spreading viruses, becoming a bot, etc.]? Disk Utility's Partition tab should show you both the Mac and Win partitions. I would start there. Maybe you can get

Re: [CGUYS] Vanishing Windows PC RESULTS

2009-04-18 Thread Constance Warner
Well, back to the old drawing board. My husband reports that Disc Utility does not show the partition with Windows. He says that it might show up in 10.5 [which he says he's going to install on the computer eventually--and maybe sooner, now that this problem has cropped up]. I'm now on

Re: [CGUYS] Microphone and recording software recommendations

2009-04-18 Thread Emil Volcheck
I second the recommendation for the Zoom H2. It has very good quality mics, and it acts like a USB memory stick (mass storage device) when you connect it. One issue is low recording volume. Note that there are two different gain controls on it: a switch for low/medium/high, and an additional

[CGUYS] Scanning software for Umax

2009-04-18 Thread David Turk
I have an old UMAX Astra 2200 scanner, but can't locate the software. I looked on their site, they say they don't have software available for Mac OS 10.4. Any thoughts? tia. david David Turk Manager, Preservation Imaging Indiana Historical Society 450 W. Ohio St. Indianapolis, IN 46202

Re: [CGUYS] Camera query. Just curious.

2009-04-18 Thread Jordan
Here's a recent camera from Canon for $400 with that feature: http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/controller?act=ModelInfoActfcategoryid=144modelid=17630 George Carr wrote: Thanks for the info. Seems like a very nice camera but maybe a little too high-end for my needs. What I should do is get one

Re: [CGUYS] Scanning software for Umax

2009-04-18 Thread Mike
Can you try the 10.3 software? Not sure there is a big enough difference between 10.3 and 10.4. Someone else might know if that point difference is a deal breaker. Sent from my iPod On Apr 18, 2009, at 10:08 AM, David Turk dt...@indianahistory.org wrote: I have an old UMAX Astra 2200

Re: [CGUYS] Camera query. Just curious.

2009-04-18 Thread Marcio
I am going to buy a new camera. Candidates? Nikon D5000 Leica C3 Panasonic (with Leica lens) I forgot the model. Will let you all know. Marcio -Original Message- From: Jordan jor17...@gmail.com Sent: Apr 18, 2009 2:08 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Camera

Re: [CGUYS] Scanning software for Umax

2009-04-18 Thread Jim
VueScan software supports the Astra 2200 in SCSI only mode if that is what you have. www.hamrick.com On Apr 18, 2009, at 1:08 PM, David Turk wrote: I have an old UMAX Astra 2200 scanner, but can't locate the software. I looked on their site, they say they don't have software available

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Well, it is clear that you want to be the thought police. Maybe you and Benito can go halves on a web site. Right I forgot, in your world Ballmer is a fixer, thug...murderer and thief. But you have no hatred for MS and are ever fair minded. I'm sure next you'll compare Steve J to a mix of

[CGUYS] Another insult for the sake of it.. Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread mike
This was days ago Tom, stop reaching around for insulting users. Two days...you wait two days for a lull in the word battle, when the rest of us have calmed down and then hit me for reasons unknown. I'm not the one who in the last few weeks has accused users of thievery and gaybashing. I was

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Eric S. Sande
Well, it is clear that you want to be the thought police. Maybe you and Benito can go halves on a web site. Benito's account was cancelled due to non-payment. Obama so far has done nothing but take my money. Ballmer still pays a dividend.

Re: [CGUYS] Vanishing Windows PC RESULTS

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Well, back to the old drawing board. My husband reports that Disc Utility does not show the partition with Windows. He says that it might show up in 10.5 [which he says he's going to install on the computer eventually--and maybe sooner, now that this problem has cropped up]. I'm now on

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread mike
Well it's clear if it's dividends you want we go with Jobs. On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Eric S. Sande esa...@erols.com wrote: Well, it is clear that you want to be the thought police. Maybe you and Benito can go halves on a web site. Benito's account was cancelled due to non-payment.

[CGUYS] Torrents Round II

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Interesting torrent client that offers many features to evade indetification of the data source and destination at http://oneswarm.cs.washington.edu Most interesting is the note at the bottom of the page that the work is supported by the National Science Foundation.

Re: [CGUYS] Another insult for the sake of it.. Re: [CGUYS] M$

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
This was days ago Tom, stop reaching around for insulting users. Two days...you wait two days for a lull in the word battle, when the rest of us have calmed down and then hit me for reasons unknown. I retract. The email arrived in my mailbox Saturday afternoon. I was upset that you would not

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Obama so far has done nothing but take my money. Complain to your employer who should have adjusted your witholding. We have done so for our staff. Of course, if you are fabulously wealthy, you did not get any reduction. Is that the reason?

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Eric S. Sande
Well it's clear if it's dividends you want we go with Jobs. I'm on board with that. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] Torrents Round II

2009-04-18 Thread mike
Sounds like something users from say, oink.cd would have liked before their admin got busted. Private trackers exist, but AFAIK, this is the first private front end. On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 1:36 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote: Interesting torrent client that offers many features to evade

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Jordan
Eric S. Sande wrote: Obama so far has done nothing but take my money. But less of it than Bush. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] First OS X Botnet Said to be Activating

2009-04-18 Thread betty
iWork isn't shareware or freeware, it's commercial software developed by Apple. Go find a torrent of something like Adobe CS4, MS Office Pro, Archicad, Quark XPress, and see how many of those expensive programs are real and how many are waiting to eat your computer for lunch. Why would anyone

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Eric S. Sande
Of course, if you are fabulously wealthy, you did not get any reduction. Is that the reason? No, the telephone company doesn't pay that well :-). I object to the direction, not necessarily the amount. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread mike
WOW I wish I lived in your world. On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: Eric S. Sande wrote: Obama so far has done nothing but take my money. But less of it than Bush. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] First OS X Botnet Said to be Activating

2009-04-18 Thread Chris Dunford
Why would anyone steal shareware or freeware? It's free to download directly from developers. A clarification that you probably already understand: shareware is free to download, but not free to use. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, use but don't pay for shareware, which is de facto

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Eric S. Sande
But less of it than Bush. Yeah, maybe. You are going to have to show me how going deeper into debt to subsidize failure in the marketplace is a good idea. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread mike
I vote we not show any such thing and take it backchannel? I'm asking nice...please? Pretty please? On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Eric S. Sande esa...@erols.com wrote: But less of it than Bush. Yeah, maybe. You are going to have to show me how going deeper into debt to subsidize

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread mike
I retract! So sorry...following my own advice..keeping it to computers! :) On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: I'm sure this is a silly question but, what do you mean, and what is your source of information? mike wrote: WOW I wish I lived in your world.

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Jordan
Maybe? You're not sure? I agree that the bank bailout, initiated by the Bush administration, is bad and was done badly. But history has shown that the only way out of the kind of economic hole that the Bushies have dug us into is to spend. The people are tapped out, so the only one who can

Re: [CGUYS] First OS X Botnet Said to be Activating

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Why would anyone steal shareware or freeware? It's free to download directly from developers. Think more broadly. Looks like you are still at step 1 while I'm at step 3. * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Yeah, maybe. You are going to have to show me how going deeper into debt to subsidize failure in the marketplace is a good idea. You of all people should understand the relationship between investment and future prosperity. I'll bet that Verizon did not pay for all the fiber with current cash

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
But less of it than Bush. Please find a way to get this on topic or push off. Sincerely, The Thought Police * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map,

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread mike
My wife and I were looking at our credit card bills...they were maxed out, about 20% of my annual income...we decided we should get more credit cards, charge more and get it up to 80%...we figure this will get us out of the hole we are in. On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Jordan

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
And the infrastructure of this country is in such bad shape that that can be a good thing. If the government does not spend, tens of thousands of businesses, (at least?) will close. There are proposals to significantly improve broadband and to extend penetration to unserved areas. Attempts to

[CGUYS] windows firewall

2009-04-18 Thread mike
Anyone have any experience with creating rules in the windows vista firewall? There are areas to create rules based on multiple values...just wondering if anyone has feedback? Mike * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Eric S. Sande
Maybe? You're not sure? The only thing I'm sure of is that talk is cheap. Whiskey costs money. Credit is not money, it is a promise of money. We're promising that our descendants will pay the bill for our fuckups. Bad policy. Bad government. Our responsibility. End of rant.

Re: [CGUYS] Vanishing Windows PC

2009-04-18 Thread Jim
I would try Disk Warrior on it. Disk Warrior won't be able to do anything to the Windows partition. However it sounds like if the fault is going to be easily repairable I would look to the Mac side as my first choice. Running Disk Warrior may repair something that is preventing the Mac

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Eric S. Sande
You of all people should understand the relationship between investment and future prosperity. I'll bet that Verizon did not pay for all the fiber with current cash flow. Of couse not, that statement doesn't make sense, we pay for it with exisiting capital and loans like any other business.

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
My wife and I were looking at our credit card bills...they were maxed out, about 20% of my annual income...we decided we should get more credit cards, charge more and get it up to 80%...we figure this will get us out of the hole we are in. It all depends on what the money is for. People who are

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Credit is not money, it is a promise of money. We're promising that our descendants will pay the bill for our fuckups. Not true. If the economy picks up briskly those debts will be repaid quickly. That's the point of making a good investment. If Verizon takes on debt to lay fiber, that is good

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
But the US Government isn't about making a profit for its investors (us). The only products the government delivers are administration, regulation, and arbitration. That would about cover what it was designed to do. That is not true at all. There is no reason why a government can not run a

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Jeff Wright
You of all people should understand the relationship between investment and future prosperity. I'll bet that Verizon did not pay for all the fiber with current cash flow. Of couse not, that statement doesn't make sense, we pay for it with exisiting capital and loans like any other

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Jeff Wright
If the government does not spend, tens of thousands of businesses, (at least?) will close. OK, I'm done. You'd think that would had happened by now, considering that the bulk of the stimulus money will not be spent for several years. All we've heard is yer all ginna die! from our fearless

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Jeff Wright
Not true. If the economy picks up briskly those debts will be repaid quickly. That's the point of making a good investment. That is fantasy. These stimulus debts will be with us for dcecades. TARP is largely a blank check that can be spent on whatever the president and the Sec. or the

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Jeff Wright
That is not true at all. There is no reason why a government can not run a profit. Sometimes it does it directly by leasing the people's property. When badly run by cons/neocons the make a quick buck by selling off the people's property. That is less good. The federal gummint has never run

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
lets not lump all those together SS is supposed to be funded by the Social Security Trust, which is mainly financed by bonds. Medicare is funded out of current expenditures of the feds. (there is no trust fund for this one) (It is considered an entitlement.) (What you see taken out of your

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yes it has just not very often. I am trying to remember when the last time the US operated in the black, but it is so long ago, it is jut not in my memory banks. But there have been times when the Governments revenue exceeded it's expenses. Stewart At 07:46 PM 4/18/2009, you wrote: The

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Eric S. Sande
Not true. If the economy picks up briskly those debts will be repaid quickly. Yes, and if elephants fly we are likely to be covered in elephant poop. Nobody bets that things will get better, ever. * ** List info,

Re: [CGUYS] Scanning software for Umax

2009-04-18 Thread db
just start googling for it... usually someone has it for download somewhere although you should have get some sense that it is a legit site before you download. db David Turk wrote: I have an old UMAX Astra 2200 scanner, but can't locate the software. I looked on their site, they say

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Chris Dunford
The federal gummint has never run in the black. Ever. Nor will it. Fantasizing about it won't change that fact. $millions: Year Receipts Outlays Surplus - - --- 1998 1,721,955 1,652,685 69,270 1999 1,827,645 1,702,035 125,610 2000 2,025,457

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Jeff Wright
lets not lump all those together SS is supposed to be funded by the Social Security Trust, which is mainly financed by bonds. There is no trust Rev. It's an accounting trick that moves the SS funds into the general fund and replaces it with an I.O.U. It really doesn't matter how well

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Jeff Wright
$millions: Year Receipts Outlays Surplus - - --- 1998 1,721,955 1,652,685 69,270 1999 1,827,645 1,702,035 125,610 2000 2,025,457 1,789,216 236,241 2001 1,991,426 1,863,190 128,236 The Fed was also in the black every year from 1920-30, plus

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Yes, and if elephants fly we are likely to be covered in elephant poop. Nobody bets that things will get better, ever. That's just silly. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

Re: [CGUYS] Scanning software for Umax

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
just start googling for it... usually someone has it for download somewhere although you should have get some sense that it is a legit site before you download. A great way to get your PC turned into a zombie. * ** List

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I know that has been that way since the late 60's. However you lumped three distinct and separately financed items into one item and all three are funded differently. The biggest problem with SS is the number of folks funding it per recipient. It has been shrinking for some time now

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
I am trying to remember when the last time the US operated in the black, but it is so long ago, it is jut not in my memory banks. Then you are too young to be legally part of this List. * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
These are not investments. Investments provide a positive return on the investment in the form of currency or value, presuming they are good investments. These are services that you describe. Nothing else. These days most of the US economy is a service economy. The richest sectors are service

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
That is fantasy. These stimulus debts will be with us for dcecades. TARP is largely a blank check that can be spent on whatever the president and the Sec. or the Treasury decide it can be spent on. Good times These crazy ideas about the economy are even crazier than your crazy ideas about

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Jeff Wright
I'll add that the obligations of many programs are excluded from the official balance sheet. Programs like Medicare and Social Security, Fannie and Freddie are not included in the calculations you represent below. Those are cash basis budgets, which ignore liabilities.

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
It has been shrinking for some time now especially now that the baby boomer (my generation) has started being SS eligible. Actually birth rates are up again. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives,

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Jeff Wright
-Original Message- I know that has been that way since the late 60's. However you lumped three distinct and separately financed items into one item and all three are funded differently. The biggest problem with SS is the number of folks funding it per recipient. It has been

Re: [CGUYS] M$ [Was: iTunes: Crap or not.]

2009-04-18 Thread Jeff Wright
Not everyone spends and spends with the wild abandon of the cons/neocons. Right. And now Obama is showing them how it's really done. The neocons only had the magical war that would pay for itself. You know, an investment. Clinton paid off Ronald Reagan's crazy spending. Actually,

Re: [CGUYS] First OS X Botnet Said to be Activating, From:

2009-04-18 Thread betty
Why would anyone steal shareware or freeware? It's free to download directly from developers. Think more broadly. Looks like you are still at step 1 while I'm at step 3. Fill in the blanks: Step 1 _ Step 2 _ Step 3 _