Re: [CGUYS] NeoOffice 3.0/Mac PPC or Intel vs. OpenOffice 2.4/Mac PPC vs. OpenOffice 3.1/Mac Intel ?

2009-05-18 Thread Jordan
It seems to me that some versions of OS X included X11. But NeoOffice was developed so you wouldn't have to jump through extra hoops. So I agree, stick with NeoOffice. Art Clemons wrote: 1. I have an iMac PPC. Some (day? year?) I'll buy an iMac Intel. 2. The latest version of NeoOffice is

Re: [CGUYS] NeoOffice 3.0/Mac PPC or Intel vs. OpenOffice 2.4/Mac PPC vs. OpenOffice 3.1/Mac Intel ?

2009-05-18 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote: It seems to me that some versions of OS X included X11. But NeoOffice was developed so you wouldn't have to jump through extra hoops. So I agree, stick with NeoOffice. Art Clemons wrote: 1. I have an iMac PPC. Some (day?

[CGUYS] Java C++ - Quickest way to learn

2009-05-18 Thread Michael Drabick
I am looking for the quickest way to get up to speed on these two programing languages, as I have become one of the victims of this troubled economy. I have been to a few Job fairs and every one wants Java and C++/C# programmers with clearances. It seems the government is the only one with

Re: [CGUYS] Java C++ - Quickest way to learn

2009-05-18 Thread Matthew Taylor
Probably the best way is to just buy a book and start coding. As to what to code you could look around for an open source project to join. Parallel to this a class at the local community college will help credential you. Do you already have a clearance? Matthew On May 18, 2009, at

Re: [CGUYS] Java C++ - Quickest way to learn

2009-05-18 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Mon, 18 May 2009, Michael Drabick wrote: I am looking for the quickest way to get up to speed on these two programing languages, as I have become one of the victims of this troubled economy. I have been to a few Job fairs and every one wants Java and C++/C# programmers with clearances. It

[CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-18 Thread mike
Anyone out there on a politics list? Do they ever break out into computer subjects? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] Java C++ - Quickest way to learn

2009-05-18 Thread Michael Drabick
Matthew, No clearances, but do know of a back door to get one. Community College sounds like a good idea. Open Source - would Mozilla be one of those using Java? Mike Matthew Taylor wrote: Probably the best way is to just buy a book and start coding. As to what to code you could look around

Re: [CGUYS] Java C++ - Quickest way to learn

2009-05-18 Thread Michael Drabick
I will look for a good book and get started, thanks for your offer to help. It is greatly appreciated. Mike Vicky Staubly wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2009, Michael Drabick wrote: I am looking for the quickest way to get up to speed on these two programing languages, as I have become one of the

Re: [CGUYS] Java C++ - Quickest way to learn

2009-05-18 Thread Matthew Taylor
I don't think that Mozilla is Java based. Sourceforge would be the place to check to see what Java based open sourced projects are out there. Found an interesting link here that might prove useful: http://sourceforge.net/community/forum/topic.php?id=229 On May 18, 2009, at 3:08 PM,

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-18 Thread Matthew Taylor
I used to be, but I could not get much help wrt hardware - they mostly argued about which languages were better. On May 18, 2009, at 3:00 PM, mike wrote: Anyone out there on a politics list? Do they ever break out into computer subjects?

Re: [CGUYS] Java C++ - Quickest way to learn

2009-05-18 Thread Allen Firstenberg
Java has always been easy to learn since they have always given both the compiler and a set of tutorials away. Not to mention that the API documentation is also publicly (and freely) available. The tutorials (called the trails) are available at http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/ I have

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-18 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 3:00 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone out there on a politics list?  Do they ever break out into computer subjects? Absolutely. Let me say this about computers and politics and why they are linked. The old Mac versus Windows/DOS/PC flame wars have always

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-18 Thread Jeff Wright
Anyone out there on a politics list?  Do they ever break out into computer subjects? On a political blog I frequent, the topic can change from a serious discussion on whatever the post topic is to discussions of Star Trek or SF in general, movie trivia, sex, zombies, cars, arguments over

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-18 Thread Matthew Taylor
If you still think Like Mac = Liberal then you have not been paying attention on this forum. On May 18, 2009, at 3:27 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: The old Mac versus Windows/DOS/PC flame wars have always been, in great part, about conservatives and liberals. The conservatives,

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-18 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Matthew Taylor taylorsmatt...@gmail.com wrote: If you still think Like Mac = Liberal then you have not been paying attention on this forum. I have been paying attention on this forum. I have also been paying attention to the rest of the world as well. On

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-18 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Mon, 18 May 2009, Matthew Taylor wrote: If you still think Like Mac = Liberal then you have not been paying attention on this forum. Yes, Matt here is pretty conservative, but uses a Mac. Chris Dunford seems rather liberal, but uses Windows. I personally use Linux when I can (personal

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-18 Thread Jeff Miles
Compu-racial profiling, I love it. On May 18, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Vicky Staubly wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2009, Matthew Taylor wrote: If you still think Like Mac = Liberal then you have not been paying attention on this forum. Yes, Matt here is pretty conservative, but uses a Mac. Chris

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-18 Thread Marcio
In a Sunday AM, when I have nothing to do the whole day...no pressures... I may try to do this, not for need but for fun... Then will come here to ask for help!!! Marcio -Original Message- From: Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com Sent: May 17, 2009 10:44 PM To:

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-18 Thread Marcio
Computers are more or less like womem. When they are working well... wonderfull but when they refuse to respond to our needs...it is very hard to understand... You encourage me to participate in this group. Sometimes I fell I am boring you all. Marcio -Original Message- From: Tom

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-18 Thread Richard P.
And I thought Tom was the only one who brought up controversial topics... : )) You are never a bore, Marcio. Richard P. Computers are more or less like womem. When they are working well... wonderfull but when they refuse to respond to our needs...it is very hard to understand... You

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-18 Thread Chris Dunford
If you still think Like Mac = Liberal then you have not been paying attention on this forum. Well, if this were actually true, MS's 90% market share (or whatever it is) would mean that ~90% of the electorate is conservative, which makes the results of the last election somewhat surprising.

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yes and no. If you look at a Blue/Red map of the last election the red is concentrated in urban areas with a high density of population and the blue is in most of the rest of the area. So if you extrapolate the data and say higher income or more urban people use Mac's and the less urban

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-18 Thread Chris Dunford
If you look at a Blue/Red map of the last election the red is concentrated in urban areas with a high density of population and the blue is in most of the rest of the area. Rev, are you sure about that? You're saying that urban areas voted Republican and rural areas voted Democratic? I'll

[CGUYS] Zune ad

2009-05-18 Thread Stephen Brownfield
Anyone see the new Zune Pass ads? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ExogURaeIfeature=player_embedded Any thoughts? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I may have mixed up my colors, but the urban areas (high density population/cities) voted overwhelmingly democratic while the less dense areas (rural/suburban) areas voted overwhelmingly republican. The map I saw showed about 80% of the land mass voted republican and 20% voted democratic.

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-18 Thread Stephen Brownfield
Marcio. I enjoy reading your posts. Your questions are everyman's questions. Steve Marcio wrote: Computers are more or less like womem. When they are working well... wonderfull but when they refuse to respond to our needs...it is very hard to understand... You encourage me to

Re: [CGUYS] Zune ad

2009-05-18 Thread Chris Dunford
Anyone see the new Zune Pass ads? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ExogURaeIfeature=player_embedded Any thoughts? Zune Pass is pretty good. Basically, for $15/month you have access to *all* the music in the library. If you cancel your subscription, your tracks expire in a month or so, but

Re: [CGUYS] I wonder

2009-05-18 Thread Eric S. Sande
I may have mixed up my colors, ... Yeah, I do that too. It's the exact opposite of what you'd expect as far as the colors' symbolism. Blue is liberal and red is conservative. To make it even more confusing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ElectionMapPurpleCounty.jpg

Re: [CGUYS] Zune ad

2009-05-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ExogURaeIfeature=player_embedded Wow. Would anybody take financial advice from somebody so out of touch with reality? He's probably peddling AIG stock too. * ** List info, subscription

Re: [CGUYS] Zune ad

2009-05-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
Zune Pass is pretty good. Why has every attempt to date at selling such a subscription service been a flop. Is this one structured any differently than past failures? Or does M$ think the brand will make the difference? *

Re: [CGUYS] Zune ad

2009-05-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
I am humbled... http://gizmodo.com/5256174/new-zune-ad-obliterated-because-you-know-its-stu pid * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at

Re: [CGUYS] Zune ad

2009-05-18 Thread Chris Dunford
Why has every attempt to date at selling such a subscription service been a flop You might mention this to Rhapsody. They don't seem to be aware that they have flopped. * ** List info, subscription management, list

Re: [CGUYS] Zune ad

2009-05-18 Thread Chris Dunford
I am humbled... http://gizmodo.com/5256174/new-zune-ad-obliterated-because-you-know- its-stupid I would be humbled, too, if I had read your little cartoon and didn't notice that it was lying. As I mentioned--and as the text under the cartoon ALSO mentions--you get 10 non-DRM tracks each

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-18 Thread Marcio
Thanks Steve. Marcio -Original Message- From: Stephen Brownfield steveei...@verizon.net Sent: May 18, 2009 9:19 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions? Marcio. I enjoy reading your posts. Your questions are

Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the partirions?

2009-05-18 Thread Marcio
Many thanks... try to stay quiet for a while... but computers never allow me to stay quiet for long. Marcio -Original Message- From: Richard P. richs...@gmail.com Sent: May 18, 2009 7:09 PM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] How do I change the sizes pf the