Re: [CGUYS] Router for Belgium

2009-06-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I cant remember what I got, but I got one with a wall wart that had a changeable end on it that would change out to Overseas plugs. Stewart At 09:24 PM 6/24/2009, you wrote: ...dont'cha think?? Yeah, that's right. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.

Re: [CGUYS] Router for Belgium

2009-06-24 Thread Eric S. Sande
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Re: [CGUYS] Router for Belgium

2009-06-24 Thread rleesimon
C'mon guys!! I think the powerbrick gives up DC voltage to the router so the 50/60Hz thing will not ever show to the thing ...dont'cha think?? -Original Message- From: A.B.Aftoora [mailto:avair...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 4:48 PM Subject: Router for Belgium Europe uses

Re: [CGUYS] RIAA is very happy and elated

2009-06-24 Thread Jeff Wright
> The cons/neocons never want to take responsibility when their nutty > theories are observed in practice. Politicians don't want to admit to their failures in public? No WAY! You're pulling my leg. * ** List info, subscri

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread Jeff Wright
> Yes CALEA was signed into law by Clinton, but the problems really > stem from what Bush did with it. You are correct in your assessment of Bush, but I don't give Bubba a pass. His hostility to the civil liberties wasn't limited to Carnivore. http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/4.10/netizen.htm

Re: [CGUYS] Router for Belgium

2009-06-24 Thread Eric S. Sande
Europe uses 220 voltage and 50 Hz --a low voltage transformer and >plug adapter will handle the voltage and plug configuration problems >but not the 50 vs 60 Hz problem. It is very unlikely that your old router will operate in Belgium. I don't see how that follows. The router in question uses

Re: [CGUYS] VHS to DVD question

2009-06-24 Thread Chris Dunford
> I picked up a Samsung combination VCR-DVR to transfer old VHS home videos to > DVDs. It worked, but only > sorta. The transfer quality is OK, and the Samsung can play them, but none of > my PCs recognize them-- > they all say "Insert disk" when I try to do anything. This means I can't edit > o

Re: [CGUYS] RIAA is very happy and elated

2009-06-24 Thread mike
Or the wacko left just sits in denial and blames others for their problems. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 3:01 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Jun 24, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: > >> I'm sure that you voted for some of the clowns that are directly >> responsible >> for this situation, Thomas, assu

Re: [CGUYS] Newsgroup hosts?

2009-06-24 Thread mike
Forte has a good service, at least when I used it...cheap too. When I still had cox, they had just started having a retention time of about four minutes, their newsgroups became useless. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: > I'd like to subscribe to the mozilla.support.seamonkey

Re: [CGUYS] Recall: COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 24 Jun 2009 - Special issue (#2009-604)

2009-06-24 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 24, 2009, at 2:37 PM, rleesimon wrote: rleesimon would like to recall the message, "COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 24 Jun 2009 - Special issue (#2009-604)". Good luck with that. Your message has been archived for posterity in redundant archive systems. ***

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread mike
I don't pick sides, I know enough to stay away from both. On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:53 PM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:51 AM, mike wrote: > >> WOW..you can link bush/microsofticons to *anything* can't you? >> > > Your loyalty to evildoers of every ilk is indeed impressive, though n

Re: [CGUYS] RIAA is very happy and elated

2009-06-24 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 24, 2009, at 4:49 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: I'm sure that you voted for some of the clowns that are directly responsible for this situation, Thomas, assuming you vote. You should be proud. The cons/neocons never want to take responsibility when their nutty theories are observed in prac

[CGUYS] Newsgroup hosts?

2009-06-24 Thread Fred Holmes
I'd like to subscribe to the mozilla.support.seamonkey Usenet newsgroup, and the Cox news server (news.east.cox.net) doesn't carry it (Cox being my connection ISP). At least it doesn't appear when I list the newsgroups on that server. What's a good/best likely news server (free or low cost) th

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 24, 2009, at 11:51 AM, mike wrote: WOW..you can link bush/microsofticons to *anything* can't you? Your loyalty to evildoers of every ilk is indeed impressive, though not commendable. You probably think Dick Cheney is a lovable Teddy Bear. Yes CALEA was signed into law by Clinton, b

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 4:01 PM, chad evans wyatt wrote: > This is the kind of guy needed right now.  You advance it, demonstrate it.  > Don't make me work to prove what you declare.  It's only polite.  And thank > you. Okay. Okay. Okay. I did not have the blasted link to the original arti

Re: [CGUYS] RIAA is very happy and elated

2009-06-24 Thread Jeff Wright
> Well somebody has to pay for the yacht and the mansion in the > Hamptons. Don't you believe in the operation of the Free Market, Mike? I know I do. Good thing this is nothing of the sort. It's rent-seeking corporatism at the very least, something Congress and the president, including the curre

[CGUYS] Router for Belgium

2009-06-24 Thread A.B.Aftoora
Europe uses 220 voltage and 50 Hz --a low voltage transformer and plug adapter will handle the voltage and plug configuration problems but not the 50 vs 60 Hz problem. It is very unlikely that your old router will operate in Belgium. ***

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread chad evans wyatt
This is the kind of guy needed right now.  You advance it, demonstrate it.  Don't make me work to prove what you declare.  It's only polite.  And thank you. --- On Wed, 6/24/09, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: From: Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) Subject: Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran To: COM

Re: [CGUYS] VHS to DVD question

2009-06-24 Thread MrMike6by9
You said "yes, the PC drives do support DVD-R). Would a different format make a difference? Or what?". If the "reading" drive only reads, such as a DVD-R drive versus a DVD-RW or DVD+RW, then the Samsung-created disc MUST be finalized. Further, IME, many computers prefer to work with DVD+R/RW while

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
This had more to do with South Africa and it was trying to make a social statement more than anything else. Morality had a small play into it. Can you safely say that every business you deal with and every investment you make is a good moral decision and the correct one at that? Here you had

Re: [CGUYS] VHS to DVD question

2009-06-24 Thread Scott McClure
I have a Panasonic VCR-DVD unit and my Mac mini Superdrive can read the DVD-R recordings it produces. Make sure you "finalize" the DVD-R's. In the case of the Panasonic, it can play material recorded on non-finalized DVD-R's, but the DVD-R's won't play in Mac mini (it doesn't read them at all)

Re: [CGUYS] VHS to DVD question

2009-06-24 Thread Chris Dunford
Well, as I said I don't know a lot about video, but I do know enough to be able to tell you that you've been led astray there. RP and WMP don't care whether something is commercially produced. It's sufficient that the disk be recognizable by the system and its content be in a format they under

[CGUYS] Recall: COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 24 Jun 2009 - Special issue (#2009-604)

2009-06-24 Thread rleesimon
rleesimon would like to recall the message, "COMPUTERGUYS-L Digest - 24 Jun 2009 - Special issue (#2009-604)". * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, an

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread Jordan
Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Some church bodies choose to do just that and some of the clergy got upset and claimed that it weakened their portfolio of investments for retirement. Right! We wouldn't want morality to enter into our decision making. ***

Re: [CGUYS] VHS to DVD question

2009-06-24 Thread Edward Yarborough
I do not have experience with the specific Samsung equipment you refer to but in general there is a "finalization" process that has to be done for other DVD players to recognize it. On the Sony model I have to go to the setup menu, while disc is inserted in the recorder of course, and select fin

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Some church bodies choose to do just that and some of the clergy got upset and claimed that it weakened their portfolio of investments for retirement. Mine is a closed system, we are just told how much our pension is worth (traditional plan) and we do not have any say ion how they are invested

Re: [CGUYS] VHS to DVD question

2009-06-24 Thread David Turk
We have a similar problem. The only answer I've ever been given is that since the DVD's aren't commercially produced, programs like RealPlayer & Windows Media Player won't recognize them on PC's; you should be able to play them on Macs' DVD player. Someone on this list referred me to this site

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread Paul Cannon
Since people are always sinning, maybe a well-performing "vice" fund or a couple of "sin stocks" would be a better investment. A "virtuous" fund is another alternative to look at. The love of money is the root of all evil. Hmmm, so which investor would return more money God vs. Satan? In the

Re: [CGUYS] Router for Belgium

2009-06-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
The biggy usually is the power supply and they just use a different end on them to plug them in. Stewart At 12:32 PM 6/24/2009, you wrote: Everything costs more in Europe not the least of which is the exchange rate adding around 40% to the dollar plus their tax structure .is there any differe

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread Chris Dunford
> It is not unique to this venue. There are all sorts of entities that > try and promote their own crap and call it research and some such nonsense. True. And that reminds me, the gibberish paper was submitted by a grad student at Cornell who listed his academic affiliation as the "Center for Re

Re: [CGUYS] indescent, d'oh!

2009-06-24 Thread rleesimon
Who's mike?? -Original Message- From: John Duncan Yoyo [mailto:johnduncany...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 1:19 AM Subject: Re: indescent, d'oh! On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 3:25 PM, rleesimon wrote: > Was george carlin on wamu? .or have I missed something? > It was open mik

[CGUYS] Router for Belgium

2009-06-24 Thread rleesimon
Everything costs more in Europe not the least of which is the exchange rate adding around 40% to the dollar plus their tax structure .is there any difference between a wifi router for the USA (I have a Linksys wrt150n which works great for my cable internet and voip using phonepower.com) .I wanna g

[CGUYS] VHS to DVD question

2009-06-24 Thread Chris Dunford
I picked up a Samsung combination VCR-DVR to transfer old VHS home videos to DVDs. It worked, but only sorta. The transfer quality is OK, and the Samsung can play them, but none of my PCs recognize them--they all say "Insert disk" when I try to do anything. This means I can't edit or make backup

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
The internet came from Arpanet, with university students and professors conversing. Links are much like footnotes. We still use them, partly because nobody can see our faces; we are communicating with strangers (much like a research environment), so it can be important (or merely convenient) to b

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran / Include Link

2009-06-24 Thread John Settle
but why do most folks seem to expect a link these days? Not admonitioning your lack of a link in any way; speaking strictly for myself, I see providing a link as a courtesy to those who read my posts so they can review the source material themselves and engage in an intelligent exchange. S

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That is not true peer review. Kind of reminds me of the hucksters on TV who sell all sorts of nonsense that is supposed to be healthy for us etc. Once you start reading the reviews or "Studies" you realize it is a bunch of self promotion stuff, not reality. It is not unique to this venue.

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread chad evans wyatt
Fine, no problem.  You established fact, I wanted to see what that was.  I did your "google" for the rest of us, and provided link.  Turns out, you were right in your alert, but underpinning would have helped.  Your subsequent establishment of blamelessness is interesting, but the accepted form

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I think they cold use the investment right now. heard they were having a hard time. Stewart At 11:40 AM 6/24/2009, you wrote: As for Tom's belief that Bush forced German and Finnish companies to innovate, I don't think he can ever buy enough aluminum foil. Perhaps I should invest in Alcoa

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread Paul Cannon
Sure, it is easy to do. e.g. Bush learned this behavior from Clinton. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnivore_(software) note: the system was MS Windows based. As for Tom's belief that Bush forced German and Finnish companies to innovate, I don't think he can ever buy enough aluminum foil. Perh

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread Chris Dunford
> Not taking any issue with your particular admonition because I > didn't provide a link, but why do most folks seem to expect a link > these days It's probably because we see so much pure BS on the Internet. If you have a specific reference for where the individual got his info, it's provides a

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread mike
WOW..you can link bush/microsofticons to *anything* can't you? On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 7:21 AM, t.piwowar wrote: > On Jun 24, 2009, at 8:59 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Nokia and Siemens last year sold and installed an internet spying >> system to the Iranian government. This system is u

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 10:19 AM, chad evans wyatt wrote: > Hugely important, if true.  A link would have been welcome. Sorry for no link, but I would have had to have gone looking for one at the time. Not taking any issue with your particular admonition because I didn't provide a link, but

Re: [CGUYS] RIAA is very happy and elated

2009-06-24 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 24, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: Par for the course for RIAA (ASCAP, too). Thieves aspire to steal larger and larger amounts. I remember them shaking down tavern owners in the 70's for playing records; even radio. Well somebody has to pay for the yacht and the mansi

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread chad evans wyatt
Hugely important, if true.  A link would have been welcome. http://politics.theatlantic.com/2009/06/internet_surveillance_and_iran_a_primer.php --- On Wed, 6/24/09, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: From: phartz...@gmail.com Subject: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.C

Re: [CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread t.piwowar
On Jun 24, 2009, at 8:59 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Nokia and Siemens last year sold and installed an internet spying system to the Iranian government. This system is used to spy upon all Iranian citizens who use the internet, and it intercepts all e-mail and VOIP traffic. I believe these

Re: [CGUYS] RIAA is very happy and elated

2009-06-24 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Par for the course for RIAA (ASCAP, too). Thieves aspire to steal larger and larger amounts. I remember them shaking down tavern owners in the 70's for playing records; even radio. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- that's $80,000 per song! On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:12 AM, phar

Re: [CGUYS] RIAA is very happy and elated

2009-06-24 Thread Judy Cosler
that's $80,000 per song! On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 8:12 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > Ms. Jammie Thomas-Rasset has been ordered to pay $1.92 million > dollars to record companies associated with the RIAA because she had > 24 illegal copies of songs on her computer that she was sharing with > ot

[CGUYS] Nokia and Siemens and Iran

2009-06-24 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
Nokia and Siemens last year sold and installed an internet spying system to the Iranian government. This system is used to spy upon all Iranian citizens who use the internet, and it intercepts all e-mail and VOIP traffic. Iran is using the system to locate and identify persons who are opposed t

[CGUYS] RIAA is very happy and elated

2009-06-24 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
Ms. Jammie Thomas-Rasset has been ordered to pay $1.92 million dollars to record companies associated with the RIAA because she had 24 illegal copies of songs on her computer that she was sharing with others. While most folks will probably think that such a heavy award is ridiculous, and will pr

Re: [CGUYS] Sprint Requires SSN to Open Acct, buy Pre

2009-06-24 Thread Chris Dunford
> I started in college 1979 and they changed to SSNs a couple of years later. > I would hope they have changed back since then. I knew it was a bad idea > then. > > VA has changed drivers license numbers to it's own number. I had a clinic > ask for my SSN last week. OK, so it was a while ago--I