Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-21 Thread b_s-wilk
Basically yes. If you want a chicken in every pot. Every local switch and tandem switch has to be equipped. Every mile has to be rebuilt. It might be twice my estimate. Or even 6 times as much. After you get done, and the cable companies run their system, then Google comes in behind all of

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Rules regulations ability to transmit stuff. We have a new cable provider coming into town. They have to run a whole new set of lines to serve everyone. Not only that but on some poles they are already at capacity to carry wires so they will have to put up poles in some places. When I lived

Re: [CGUYS] Anybody else find all tom's post in gMail spam?

2010-02-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Or it actually read the contents of the post. :-) Stewart At 10:30 PM 2/21/2010, you wrote: Not intentionally. I was wondering if it was seeding off of someone else's Spam marking. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Tony B wrote: > No. Are you sure you didn't mark one as spam at some point

Re: [CGUYS] Anybody else find all tom's post in gMail spam?

2010-02-21 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Not intentionally. I was wondering if it was seeding off of someone else's Spam marking. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Tony B wrote: > No. Are you sure you didn't mark one as spam at some point? > > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM, John Duncan Yoyo > wrote: > > > I just found the last cou

[CGUYS] System Mechanic

2010-02-21 Thread D Freye
Some time ago a list member said they liked System Mechanic for cleaning up their machine and making it start and run faster. I do not like it for these reasons: It cannot understand notepad++ and comes up with many false errors related to the program. Lots and lots

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-21 Thread Reid Katan
Quoting "Eric S. Sande" : The Interstate Highway System is pegged at $425 billion in 2006 dollars. So you are saying the unrolling fiber costs almost as much as building a 6 lane national highway system? Basically yes. If you want a chicken in every pot. Every local switch and tandem s

Re: [CGUYS] Anybody else find all tom's post in gMail spam?

2010-02-21 Thread Tony B
No. Are you sure you didn't mark one as spam at some point? On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:22 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: > I just found the last couple of days worth of Tom's posts in the gMail Spam > folder. Both the tjpa and the t.piowar email addresses were there. > ***

Re: [CGUYS] Digital camera battery??

2010-02-21 Thread Stewart Marshall
I often suspect that they are selling seconds. Stewart At 08:31 PM 2/21/2010, you wrote: Voltage is voltage, and the right voltage is needed. But 7.4 V compared to 7.2 V is small. One may wonder how a battery can differ by a small voltage, since a battery by definition is a series of elect

Re: [CGUYS] Digital camera battery??

2010-02-21 Thread Robert Carroll
Voltage is voltage, and the right voltage is needed. But 7.4 V compared to 7.2 V is small. One may wonder how a battery can differ by a small voltage, since a battery by definition is a series of electrical cells with voltages that add up from the individual cells that are connected in series

Re: [CGUYS] AT&T coverage map

2010-02-21 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
It sounds like the old 5 bar commercials where they claimed that they had more 5 bar reception areas than any one else. If you read the fine print they were counting all world wide locations that were not even ATT, just GSM coverage. Felt it was a little misleading. Stewart At 07:46 PM 2/2

Re: [CGUYS] AT&T coverage map

2010-02-21 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 6:16 PM, mike wrote: > Yeah! > > No idea what we are so there'ing...but...so there! So there! As in, "Take that, you suckers!" Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archi

Re: [CGUYS] AT&T coverage map

2010-02-21 Thread mike
Yeah! No idea what we are so there'ing...but...so there! On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:01 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > > > So there! > > Steve > > -- > WARNING: Due to a Presidential Executive Order, the National Security > Agency may have read this email without warning, warrant or notice. >

[CGUYS] AT&T coverage map

2010-02-21 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
Has anyone else here read the fine print that appears at the bottom of the newspaper page or at the bottom of the TV screen when AT&T runs their ads that feature their coverage map? It says, among other things, that the map may or may not indicate actual coverage. To wit, areas shown to be cover

Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

2010-02-21 Thread Robert Michael Abrams
At 10:18 PM 2/20/2010, Steve wrote: On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:21 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: What it isn't correct that the district was CLAIMING that it was using the camera for? I think not. Well, yeah, the school said that the only intended purpose for any remote viewing was to help t

Re: [CGUYS] Anybody else find all tom's post in gMail spam?

2010-02-21 Thread mike
nope... On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:22 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: > I just found the last couple of days worth of Tom's posts in the gMail Spam > folder. Both the tjpa and the t.piowar email addresses were there. > > I thought Tom was being unusually quiet. > > -- > John Duncan Yoyo > ---

[CGUYS] Anybody else find all tom's post in gMail spam?

2010-02-21 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
I just found the last couple of days worth of Tom's posts in the gMail Spam folder. Both the tjpa and the t.piowar email addresses were there. I thought Tom was being unusually quiet. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) ***

Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

2010-02-21 Thread Robert Michael Abrams
At 09:41 AM 2/21/2010, Tom Piwowar wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:18 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Well, yeah, the school said that the only intended purpose for any remote viewing was to help them retrieve stolen or lost laptops, but that was not what they were doing. So if you get your com

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-21 Thread mike
It's funny how both sides end up talking about each other the same way, I suppose ideologues are more similar even when they perceive themselves to be on opposite sides. As long as we have guys like Tom to continue the game for the politicians, they'll love us. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 11:13 AM, t

Re: [CGUYS] This is worth a look

2010-02-21 Thread mike
I'll take my sad sack DSL over that choice. On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 12:43 PM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote: > > > > http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Our-National-Broadband-Plan-Is-A-Bland-Boring-Mess-106979 > > So, what do we have here? Y

Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

2010-02-21 Thread mike
This entire incident is not an accident. It was thought out, planned and executed from start to finish. It is not possible someone by pure accident connected to a students system and then decided on a whim to keep watching and then report him for drugs (candy), call him into the office and try to

Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

2010-02-21 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:27 PM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: > It was bloody stupid to do and they should feel the full force of the law > but the intent could have seemed justifiable if they were sold on this > system even if the result isn't.  It may be systemic if the video at < > http://www.pbs.o

Re: [CGUYS] This is worth a look

2010-02-21 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote: > http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Our-National-Broadband-Plan-Is-A-Bland-Boring-Mess-106979 So, what do we have here? Yet more evidence that not only are our governmental agencies and agency heads only interested in their own political

Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

2010-02-21 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 10:33 AM, mike wrote: > To be blunt it doesn't matter what you think is going on, it matters what > happened. And that was spying on minors in their own homes. > It was bloody stupid to do and they should feel the full force of the law but the intent could have seemed ju

[CGUYS] This is worth a look

2010-02-21 Thread Eric S. Sande
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Our-National-Broadband-Plan-Is-A-Bland-Boring-Mess-106979 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http:/

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-21 Thread Fred Holmes
At 10:25 PM 2/20/2010, Chris Dunford wrote: >They will *try* to sell you fiber optic phone service. You don't have to take >it. I have FiOS broadband (which I love) and copper phone service. Where are you located? Who is your POTS supplier? I'm in Annandale, VA, and Verizon is my POTS supplier

Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

2010-02-21 Thread John Settle
On 2/21/2010 12:41 PM, tjpa wrote: On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:18 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Well, yeah, the school said that the only intended purpose for any remote viewing was to help them retrieve stolen or lost laptops, but that was not what they were doing. So if you get your computer stol

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-21 Thread tjpa
On Feb 20, 2010, at 10:47 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: So what are you talking about? They favor fantasy over facts. I think you are wasting your time trying to deprogram them. They heads are filled with slogans that they cling to vigorously. If you point out how their fantasies brought the countr

Re: [CGUYS] FCC head calls for broadband availability

2010-02-21 Thread Eric S. Sande
The Interstate Highway System is pegged at $425 billion in 2006 dollars. So you are saying the unrolling fiber costs almost as much as building a 6 lane national highway system? Basically yes. If you want a chicken in every pot. Every local switch and tandem switch has to be equipped. Ever

Re: [CGUYS] Password Keeper == Login King -- thoughts?

2010-02-21 Thread tjpa
On Feb 20, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Tony B wrote: I have it set so our staff (myself included) has to change passwords every few months. And I always use strong passwords. I can't even remember my gmail password, and I routinely need that when logging in from my laptop from the road. This is a fi

Re: [CGUYS] Password Keeper == Login King -- thoughts?

2010-02-21 Thread tjpa
On Feb 20, 2010, at 10:28 PM, Fred Holmes wrote: One bank uses a pictogram -- picture. After entering only your username, a different/succeeding page loads that shows a picture and queries your password. This picture is individual for each customer. You get to pick it out of a huge library

Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

2010-02-21 Thread tjpa
On Feb 21, 2010, at 1:18 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: Well, yeah, the school said that the only intended purpose for any remote viewing was to help them retrieve stolen or lost laptops, but that was not what they were doing. So if you get your computer stolen and attempt to recover it by usin

Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

2010-02-21 Thread mike
To be blunt it doesn't matter what you think is going on, it matters what happened. And that was spying on minors in their own homes. On Feb 21, 2010 8:27 AM, "John Duncan Yoyo" wrote: On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:18 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:21 PM, John Duncan Yo

Re: [CGUYS] win7 to "phone home" - comments?

2010-02-21 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:34 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: > Maybe that was the purpose of the patch? > > Nope, just a side effect. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management,

Re: [CGUYS] Creepy or what?

2010-02-21 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 1:18 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 9:21 PM, John Duncan Yoyo > wrote: > > > What it isn't correct that the district was CLAIMING that it was using > the > > camera for? I think not. > > Well, yeah, the school said that the only intended purpos

Re: [CGUYS] win7 to "phone home" - comments?

2010-02-21 Thread Fred Holmes
Maybe that was the purpose of the patch? Fred Holmes At 12:53 AM 2/21/2010, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: >> Word is that this patch may have unmasked a rootkit that casued the BSOD. >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2450052/posts > > >-- >John Duncan Yoyo >---o)