Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-09-01 Thread Fred Holmes
At 12:08 AM 8/30/2008, Eric S. Sande wrote: The phone wiring in your house is a common loop, which is phone company jargon for the same electrical connection to all the outlets (phone jacks). If that loop is compromised then none of it works. That compromise may be in the loop wiring, or it may

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-09-01 Thread Art Clemons
Inside wiring issues belong to the subscriber. I note that many folks have Verzion inside wiring maintenance plans meaning they actually belong to Verizon. I also repeat, that the direct run to the modem with the splitter filter is incredibly easier to troubleshoot. I didn't make this rule,

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-09-01 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Art Clemons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inside wiring issues belong to the subscriber. I note that many folks have Verzion inside wiring maintenance plans meaning they actually belong to Verizon. I also repeat, that the direct run to the modem with the

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-31 Thread Brian Jones
Is there a box that splits the RJ-11 to RJ-45 for data? I've done ethernet networks but don't know about the hardware for telephone data lines. Thanks, Betty Your last question makes me think that you don't exactly understand the virutes of

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-31 Thread Art Clemons
Eric S. Sande: The DSL signal rides on top of the normal analog voice bandwidth signalling on a norrmal T0 telephone line. It is sufficent to use a filter to attenuate that signalling noise at individual phone sets to allow normal analog voice (or modem) communication without noise. This

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-31 Thread Eric S. Sande
But could he fix it? Inside wiring issues belong to the subscriber. I didn't make this rule, the courts and the FCC did. I'll fix it if you pay me to. I have to go now, Tom has just advised me that he's running for President and he wants me for his chief of wires and tubes. Call my

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-30 Thread Eric S. Sande
What I need to do is split the phone line as it comes into the house. One cable will be filtered and go to main telephones, the other cable will be for data--this is before it gets to the modem/router. Is the box I need called a DSL splitter? DSL junction box? It will be located in a crawl

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
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Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
The phone wiring in your house is a common loop, which is phone company jargon for the same electrical connection to all the outlets (phone jacks). If that loop is compromised then none of it works. Finding the short should not be all that hard. 1) Make a diagram of your house showing the phone

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-29 Thread b_s-wilk
Is there a box that splits the RJ-11 to RJ-45 for data? I've done ethernet networks but don't know about the hardware for telephone data lines. Your last question makes me think that you don't exactly understand the virutes of DSL...

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-27 Thread John Mealey III
: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric S. Sande Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2008 12:07 AM To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring What parts do we need? What's the best method for wiring that doesn't require spending all day

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
Phone line ---filter--house phones | |--DSL Modemethernet Definitely easiest in the long run. I just used one of the supplied filters, cutting the wires apart so they could be used in a punch down block.

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-27 Thread Daniel Else
I'd like to ramp up the technical question a bit. We already have DSL coming into the house (firewall, antivirus, etc., are already installed) with 2 Windows XP desktops plugged into the modem. Are there any technical considerations in taking the existing system wireless beyond slapping a

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Yeah security. Turn on security when you add wireless mode. Stewart At 09:05 AM 8/27/2008, you wrote: I'd like to ramp up the technical question a bit. We already have DSL coming into the house (firewall, antivirus, etc., are already installed) with 2 Windows XP desktops plugged into the

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-27 Thread Daniel Else
Good point. Thanks, Rev.! Dan :-) Rev. Stewart Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/27/2008 10:15 AM Yeah security. Turn on security when you add wireless mode. Stewart * ** List info, subscription management, list rules,

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-27 Thread b_s-wilk
Two approaches here. One is put a filter at the metwork interface (where the phone line comes into the house) and rig dedicated DSL loops off the unfiltered side. What kind of box do I need here? Any photos/illustrations for this? Second approach is to just plug in a filter at each phone

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-27 Thread b_s-wilk
I would have to agree with Eric's first approach. That approach served my family well prior to the fios install. Phone line ---filter--house phones | |--DSL Modemethernet Is there a box inside to split phone and data?

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-27 Thread John Mealey III
The DSL modem will have an RJ-11 jack for the pots line and a RJ-45 jack for the lan side. Typically tyhe RJ-11 jack will say WAN or DSL and the ethernet jack that you use through the house will say 'LAN' for local area network. Might even have a four port switch or something similar built in.

[CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-26 Thread b_s-wilk
Our house has old phone wiring that has a short circuit somewhere between the box and the outlet for the DSL modem. We've decided to replace the wire with new, and have dedicated lines for the computers. Is it better to attach phone and data lines together at the outside box and run each to

Re: [CGUYS] DSL Home Wiring

2008-08-26 Thread Eric S. Sande
What parts do we need? What's the best method for wiring that doesn't require spending all day in a black widow spider infested crawl space? Two approaches here. One is put a filter at the metwork interface (where the phone line comes into the house) and rig dedicated DSL loops off the