Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread mike
I should have never held that gun your head when you posted that excerpt..hey waitasecond...I never held a gun to your head! Maybe you should have posted an excerpt about IE loss of market share which could be tied to it's non standards compliance? I dunno, just a thought. The security thing nev

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread tjpa
On Dec 3, 2009, at 4:23 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: This is totally uncalled for. It was Tom who brought up security. Mike simply responded. Sigh, here we go again. I extracted an interesting quote from a link posted by Mike. Mike's link had nothing to do with ACID. I guess I should have immed

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread Chris Dunford
> -Original Message- > From: Computer Guys Discussion List [mailto:computerguy...@listserv.aol.com] > On Behalf Of Snyder, Mark > - IdM (IS) > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 12:14 PM > To: COMPUTERGUYS-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM > Subject: Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread rleesimon
Did you just say tom is droppin' acid (again)? -Original Message- From: mike [mailto:xha...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 11:47 AM Subject: Re: IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly Why do you do this? READ the thread. Tom brought up security. You guys are like broken records, cha

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread mike
You are brilliant. Instead of double checking what I said, you call me names. In full is Tom's previous post in which you will notice if you are able to read, about MS and security. I have put it in bold and italics and added color to the important words, have someone read it to you noticing emp

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread phartz...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Tony B wrote: > The problem with this ACID test is that it wasn't designed by the > people that authored the #1 internet browser. If those people wrote > the test, their browser would pass it with flying colors, and the > others would probably fail. I do not us

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
No, that misses the point. That only allows the guilty to bury the evidence. The Acid test is only worth paying attention to because it is written a standards organization < http://acid3.acidtests.org/>, not by the authors of the software to be tested. The tests then measure standards defined by

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
I was mistaken when I called you catatonic, Mike. You are a moron. The Acid Test has absolutely nothing to do with security. You have lost all association with logic. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- Why do you do this? READ the thread. Tom brought up security. You guys ar

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread Tony B
Agree about the topic hijacking. Start a new thread people; it's as easy as changing the subject line. The problem with this ACID test is that it wasn't designed by the people that authored the #1 internet browser. If those people wrote the test, their browser would pass it with flying colors, and

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread mike
Why do you do this? READ the thread. Tom brought up security. You guys are like broken records, challenge a belief and you can't defend it you start this shit. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS) wrote: > Mike, please wake up; you seem to be catatonic. The subject is Acid

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
Mike, please wake up; you seem to be catatonic. The subject is Acid Test. It is not browser security. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- You brought it up. Don't if you don't want it discussed. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:13 AM, tjpa wrote: > > What does this have to do with ACID

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread mike
You brought it up. Don't if you don't want it discussed. On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 9:13 AM, tjpa wrote: > On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:43 AM, mike wrote: > >> The last few contests when linux, os x and windows were all on a level >> playing field, linux was the only one that took any 'work' to get >> com

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread tjpa
On Dec 3, 2009, at 10:43 AM, mike wrote: The last few contests when linux, os x and windows were all on a level playing field, linux was the only one that took any 'work' to get compromised. What does this have to do with ACID? You just want us to avert our eyes from another M$ miserable fail

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread mike
The last few contests when linux, os x and windows were all on a level playing field, linux was the only one that took any 'work' to get compromised. http://dvlabs.tippingpoint.com/blog/2008/03/28/pwn-to-own-final-day-and-wrap-up The idea is, the true test of security is to have the same rules ap

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-03 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 2:38 AM, mike wrote: > Strange sentence...since FF just took over the number one spot we have to > wait to see what happens, and at the end they already decided on the > outcome. > > BTW, we already *know* the outcome, it's told everytime, every year at the > pwn to own con

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-02 Thread mike
Strange sentence...since FF just took over the number one spot we have to wait to see what happens, and at the end they already decided on the outcome. BTW, we already *know* the outcome, it's told everytime, every year at the pwn to own contest. On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:37 PM, t.piwowar wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-02 Thread t.piwowar
On Dec 2, 2009, at 9:02 PM, mike wrote: http://vista.blorge.com/2009/12/02/firefox-overtakes-internet-explorer-in-germany/ "It will be interesting to see what if any effect this has on hacker activity in the country. Defenders of Microsoft’s security record have previously argued that virus

Re: [CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-02 Thread mike
http://vista.blorge.com/2009/12/02/firefox-overtakes-internet-explorer-in-germany/ On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 6:45 PM, tjp wrote: > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/02/AR2009120203569.html > > "But even today, they still don't play that nicely. As you can see in this >

[CGUYS] IE8/9 Fail Acid Test Badly

2009-12-02 Thread tjp
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/12/02/AR2009120203569.html "But even today, they still don't play that nicely. As you can see in this video about IE9 , they are still nowhere near passing th