Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-19 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I was at the PX yesterday with my son and his friend and they have the Linksys Wireless G cameras for sale that and they are only 47 and change. Obviously the price has come down. Stewart At 03:04 PM 1/18/2008, you wrote: They look very similar to the Linksys cameras I have already looked at

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
They look very similar to the Linksys cameras I have already looked at. I will need to do a lot of research on this. I will already be spending a lot of money for the wedding (Father of the bride) and just had to shell out for a new laptop! Maybe this recession fix they are proposing will he

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Mike Drabick
Just wondering what you thought about the cameras I recommended. It sounds like you really do not want to spend any money on them and that is OK. The $186 Panasonic BL-C111A MPEG-4 Network Camera is a wired unit that can pan & zoom via remote user input so if they don't like what they are lo

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Long standing resentment is evident in my response. My wife and I have been married 27 years. Her family has visited us only a handful of times and since we moved from the north never. However they travel in winter all the time to see his children (Both were married and lost their spouses so

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread b_s-wilk
It's REALLY far to drive, and air fares are high, so I wouldn't call them lazy, but I don't know your in-laws. Can't you sell travel with weather? Isn't it still winter in northern Ontario? ;-D It wasn't all that warm when we went to the Ontario provincial ag. expo. in the summer a few year

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Has nothing to do with servers. The issue is human behavior. Many folks >don't have e-mail. Many folks refuse to use e-mail. Many folks have >e-mail but only check it once a week or less. Looks like a fine topic for a sermon. ***

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Even professionals. I have a bear of a time getting timely responses from fellow clergy who only periodically check email. Stewart At 10:57 AM 1/18/2008, you wrote: Has nothing to do with servers. The issue is human behavior. Many folks don't have e-mail. Many folks refuse to use e-mail.

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
You got it!!! Stewart At 10:52 AM 1/18/2008, you wrote: Well why can't you attempt the live feed and burn a DVD? You can apologize in advance that you don't think it will work but you are willing to try- it if they are willing to miss the ceremony first run. If it works you look good because

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
My Panasonic is a DV cam, and has firewire out. Getting new notebook dual core 1.8 AMD. Up speed at church is 450 kbs (I tested) Their down speed is 1.5 mps Stewart At 08:52 AM 1/18/2008, you wrote: We've used camcorders--Canon Elura and Canon Optura--and an iSight camera, with PowerMac/iBo

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Fred Holmes
Has nothing to do with servers. The issue is human behavior. Many folks don't have e-mail. Many folks refuse to use e-mail. Many folks have e-mail but only check it once a week or less. Fred Holmes At 11:00 AM 1/18/2008, Tom Piwowar wrote: >>If the Washington beltway area is the "shallow So

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread John Duncan Yoyo
Well why can't you attempt the live feed and burn a DVD? You can apologize in advance that you don't think it will work but you are willing to try- it if they are willing to miss the ceremony first run. If it works you look good because you thought it wouldn't. If it fails you told them so and F

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Mike Drabick
Rev Marshall, This may be a blessing, remember that song "Some of God's greatest gifts are unanswered prayers." They would probably be a bother if they did come, so here is my solution. The $186 Panasonic BL-C111A MPEG-4 Network Camera is a wired unit that can pan & zoom via remote user inp

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
>If the Washington beltway area is the "shallow South," my northern >Virginia (Annandale) area Episcopal church can't reliably contact all (by >a wide margin) of its members via e-mail either. So lets see your server logs and figure out what's up. **

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread b_s-wilk
We've used camcorders--Canon Elura and Canon Optura--and an iSight camera, with PowerMac/iBook/MacBook to long-distance video messaging using iChat. Analog video cams work OK, just not as well as DV cams. At one meeting the other people were in San Francisco and we were in Wilmington, Delaware

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Fred Holmes
If the Washington beltway area is the "shallow South," my northern Virginia (Annandale) area Episcopal church can't reliably contact all (by a wide margin) of its members via e-mail either. Fred Holmes At 10:07 AM 1/18/2008, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: >I wont say that my congregation is a bun

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
We have one. Remember pastor is the resident techy. (I installed most of the infrastructure.) That is not my worry it is all the other stuff and making sure it works and keeping it going. I will be a little busy during the wedding so I will not be able to tend to the electronic end. My fe

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I wont say that my congregation is a bunch of Luddites, but age militates against it. We cannot rely on Email to contact all the members, if that tells you anything. Remember I am in the deep south which tends to be many years behind on the technology scale. Stewart At 08:40 AM 1/18/2008,

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Just getting a video projector working with a laptop usually leaves the >audience waiting while the presentation host and presenter fiddle >aimlessly with their respective equipment In your case, I doubt the >wedding will wait. Recent model video projectors are a lot better. I just got some E

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
I have had very few problems getting them to work. Stewart At 08:48 AM 1/18/2008, you wrote: Recent model video projectors are a lot better. I just got some Epsons and was surprised at how easy they were to use. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Prince of Peace Ozark, AL SL

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Tom Piwowar
>No one in my congregation has a Mac laptop (I have one member >that has Mac's all desktop units) With an overall market share pushing 10% and an even bigger chunk of the laptop market (I think it is around 16%) I'm amazed that no one in your congregation has a Mac laptop. Maybe they are k

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread Tony B
Many of our video projects are weddings, so I keep on top of this. The biggest problem isn't getting the audio & video mixed ($), it's the internet connection. Few churches have a wireless network handy. I hate to travel too (and it's no small expense for some people), and I hate pomp and circumst

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-18 Thread db
Just make sure you start setting everything up on both ends and test long in advance of the wedding. What can go wrong, will go wrong when you are working with a system that depends on multiple elements working together that none of you, on either end, are familiar with. Just getting a video

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Tom has more to do with unavailability. No one in my congregation has a Mac laptop (I have one member that has Mac's all desktop units) I don't know anyone with a Mac laptop so I have to make do with what I have. What I was thinking about doing though is to get a firewire card for my la

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Not going to happen, thanks for the advice though. It is interesting how much pain some people are willing to suffer to maintain their fealty to Bill Gates & Co. What were we posting the other day about religion? * ==> Q

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Not going to happen, thanks for the advice though. Stewart At 06:43 PM 1/17/2008, you wrote: >For better picture quality and light sensitivity, for the web cam you >could substitute a digital or analog video camera, possibly a video >capture card or other interface device and ICQ or Netmeeting

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Tom Piwowar
>For better picture quality and light sensitivity, for the web cam you >could substitute a digital or analog video camera, possibly a video >capture card or other interface device and ICQ or Netmeeting etc Apple's iChat works with FireWire cameras. The best video cameras use FireWire so that w

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread db
An interesting project and capability though. Companies do it all the time with expensive specialized equipment... I'd like to have that capability using lesser tech myself . I'll be curious to know if you work out something... db Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: That sounds almost like what I w

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That sounds almost like what I will need. I am aware of the limitations this will be an almost type of setup. There is no way with my limited budget etc. to be able to set up and broadcast a movie quality cam of the event. (No matter what they show in the movies) I plan on recording it and

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread db
For better picture quality and light sensitivity, for the web cam you could substitute a digital or analog video camera, possibly a video capture card or other interface device and ICQ or Netmeeting etc but, it would still not be a full screen image and it would probably be realistically too co

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
That I am very aware of. However the church will be well lit, not dark. Stewart At 03:31 PM 1/17/2008, you wrote: I don't think you will find a web cam that will give you a decent wide angle shot in the lighting you are likely to have. They really are designed for more intimate purposes - we

Re: [CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Matthew Taylor
I don't think you will find a web cam that will give you a decent wide angle shot in the lighting you are likely to have. They really are designed for more intimate purposes - web chats, etc., not live event feeds. Matthew On Jan 17, 2008, at 3:40 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: OK to

[CGUYS] Internet Web Cam

2008-01-17 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
OK to all you gadget gurus out there. My daughter is getting married this fall. My in-laws (Most of my wife's family actually) live in the northern reaches of Ontario and are showing a reluctance to traveling this far south. They wondered if I their techhy son-in-law could set up a laptop wi