And they'll be free. Weren't you just complaining about MS adding stuff in
like AV because of anti competitiveness? You aren't making any sense in
multiple threads from one email to the next.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 11:37 AM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Tom, what are you saying wa
>Tom, what are you saying was removed?
I am not saying anything. Read what was reported here...
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&art
icleId=327354
"Microsoft's secret weapon in Windows 7 is not what features the
operating system has, but instead what featu
> My shooting a gun is not a problem. My shooting the gun while pointing
> it at you is a problem, because you will end up dead. The problem is not
> the gun shooting, it is you becomming dead. That is why there are laws
> about this.
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at such a poor understandi
>And they'll be free. Weren't you just complaining about MS adding stuff in
>like AV because of anti competitiveness? You aren't making any sense in
>multiple threads from one email to the next.
You have a HUGE blind spot. I see that in your eyes anything MS wants to
do is double plus good.
MS
> "When Windows 7 comes out, it won't include Windows Mail, Windows Photo
> Gallery and Windows Movie Maker, which are some of Vista's most useful
> applications."
Ed Bott explains this better @ http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/?p=582:
"Judging by the comments I've read and heard, many people mistaken
Tom, what are you saying was removed?
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >You may want to put on your Christmas list for a copy of "Who Moved My
> >Cheese?" this year. You seem to have a problem with MS taking on Google on
> >Google's turf by pissing and moa
>Oh. So, now consumers *can* use something else other than what MS provides?
>I could have sworn you told me that they put everyone else out of business
>with their free stuff.
You are changing the subject. This was never asserted in this context.
However, Mac sales are up 28 percent in October.
>You may want to put on your Christmas list for a copy of "Who Moved My
>Cheese?" this year. You seem to have a problem with MS taking on Google on
>Google's turf by pissing and moaning about it "removing" features that
>aren't, oddly enough, removed, just moved.
You mean they are going to be ins
> Dirty tricks are not the same as competition. Taking unfair advantage
> of a monopoly position is not competition.
Ya think?
You may want to put on your Christmas list for a copy of "Who Moved My
Cheese?" this year. You seem to have a problem with MS taking on Google on
Google's turf by pissing
> If the MS services were not crappy and as wonderful as you say, how do
> you account for so many people choosing to change the defaults? Even
> offers of money have failed to persuade.
Oh. So, now consumers *can* use something else other than what MS provides?
I could have sworn you told me that
> Then there is also the matter of the class action suit against MS over
> the "Vista Ready" designation. The complaint alleges fraud in that the
> most basic version you mention is hardly Vista.
Yep. They let the marketing trolls do their thinking for them again and got
sucked in Intel's whining
>Lot's of systems were sold as Vista Ready when the only version of Vista
>that would run was the most basic version and they didn't expect anyone to
>actually use that one.
Then there is also the matter of the class action suit against MS over
the "Vista Ready" designation. The complaint alleg
Tom Piwowar
>>And of course, Herr Doctor himself. Tom has on many
>>more than one occasion urged list members to dump their
>>ISP provided email and move to the cloud via Gmail or
>>the like. An idea with which I agree with whole-heartedly.
> A feeble attempt to change the subject. Nothing has b
>But...but...Microsoft made Live Search and MSN their default search
>and home page for IE 7. For free According to you, that means
>that every other similar application and web site should be out of
>business now. I wonder what will cure me of this massive
>hallucination of Google of being
>I didn't suggest that. Google wants computer mfrs to include Chrome
>on their installs. I asked, since you obviously don't think MS should
>be competing with Google and not updating their products to conform
>better to changing markets, that instead MS should go old-school and
>start leaning on
> No, I do not see Google requiring the use of Chrome to access their
> services. I only know of one browser that is required for accessing
> certain web services, and that is IE.
I didn't suggest that. Google wants computer mfrs to include Chrome
on their installs. I asked, since you obviously
Actually MS is building in support for multiple OS's, yer stuck in the past,
MS's cloud stragedy (you can call it whatever you want) isn't os biased.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Which reads as "don't try and compete with Google." I suppose then
> >
>Which reads as "don't try and compete with Google." I suppose then
>that since you disapprove of their competing with the non-evil (yet)
>behemoth, you would approve of an MS move to strong-arm computer
>manufacturers to *not* include Chrome on their installs, as Google
>would like the mfrs to do
> A feeble attempt to change the subject. Nothing has been posted in
> opposition to "cloud" computing or even MS's attempt to join the parade.
Which reads as "don't try and compete with Google." I suppose then
that since you disapprove of their competing with the non-evil (yet)
behemoth, you wou
> My issue is solely with MS's tactic of herding its sheeple to its web
> properties by removing popular parts of Windows.
Next, you'll be complaining about the expiration of support on Windows
for Workgroups.
*
** List inf
You mean the popular parts you just said suck in previous posts? So now
they take them out, try to revamp/improve them and you still complain. I
bet you are a barrel of monkeys on road trips.
On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >And of course, Herr Doctor
>http://tinyurl.com/5fz8dx
What's your point? That IBM is getting involved with "cloud" computing
should come as no surprise. That they are taking an enterprise approach
with an emphasis on reliability and security should be no surprise either.
Or are you just trying to muddy the waters by addi
>And of course, Herr Doctor himself. Tom has on many more than one occasion
>urged list members to dump their ISP provided email and move to the cloud
>via Gmail or the like. An idea with which I agree with whole-heartedly.
A feeble attempt to change the subject. Nothing has been posted in
oppo
> And now IBM.
And of course, Herr Doctor himself. Tom has on many more than one occasion
urged list members to dump their ISP provided email and move to the cloud
via Gmail or the like. An idea with which I agree with whole-heartedly.
**
>>> The is goal is to move people to the cloud where most
>>> believe tech is headed.
>>
>> Let's all give a hearty "baa" for the Windows sheeple
>> as they happily trot off to be shorn.
>
> Don't forget that mac baaa or whatever you MFB do...apple
> is headed that way too.
And now IBM.
http
Don't forget that mac baaa or whatever you MFB do...apple is headed that way
too.
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >The is goal is to move people to the cloud where most believe tech is
> >headed.
>
> Let's all give a hearty "baa" for the Windows sheeple
>The is goal is to move people to the cloud where most believe tech is
>headed.
Let's all give a hearty "baa" for the Windows sheeple as they happily
trot off to be shorn.
Knowing how gullible they are do you think we can sell them some Magik
Hair Tonic to grow back their losses?
***
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 9:33 PM, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Most reports say MS is shooting for an October 2009 release.
I've been hearing August on Windows Weekly.
--
John Duncan Yoyo
---o)
*
I kind of hope for the earlier than release date. I would prefer to
go directly from XP to 7 and skip Vista.
Stewart
At 10:40 PM 11/23/2008, you wrote:
> Which means sometime in early 2010 should be realistic.
Probably not. All indications are that it will be released in time for
Christmas
> Which means sometime in early 2010 should be realistic.
Probably not. All indications are that it will be released in time for
Christmas 2009 sales, which means shipping considerably earlier in the year,
maybe as early as August. Win7 is already feature-complete, so they are only
working on bug
Which means sometime in early 2010 should be realistic.
Stewart
At 08:33 PM 11/23/2008, you wrote:
Most reports say MS is shooting for an October 2009 release.
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Steve Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
>
> "Windo
Most reports say MS is shooting for an October 2009 release.
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Steve Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 23, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
>
> "Windows 7: Microsoft's secret weapon against Google"
>>
>> www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=vi
On Nov 23, 2008, at 1:53 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote:
"Windows 7: Microsoft's secret weapon against Google"
www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=
327354
Apparently MS is removing several very popular "free" applications
from
Win7 (like Mail). To get the "free"
The is goal is to move people to the cloud where most believe tech is
headed.
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Windows 7: Microsoft's secret weapon against Google"
> www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=
> 327354
>
>
> Does that qualify as an underhanded, manipulative dirty trick? I think
> so.
So, here's our summary of TomWorld for today:
Adding free stuff to Windows stinks. Removing free stuff from Windows...also
stinks (even if users can still get the free stuff IF THEY WANT IT).
You, sir, are hard to pl
"Windows 7: Microsoft's secret weapon against Google"
www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=
327354
Apparently MS is removing several very popular "free" applications from
Win7 (like Mail). To get the "free" software back MS is herding sheeple
over to Windows
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