Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-05-01 Thread Steve Rigby
On Apr 28, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Or, in the Washington Times today... You are supposed to know that the Washington Times reports on the news of a fantasy Universe parallel to our own. I guess as the years go by it gets harder to remember that the paper was established by and c

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-30 Thread John DeCarlo
On 4/29/07, Paul Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (I don't think much of Christian Science - apologies in advance - but people generally don't doubt CSM's credibiility, and you can make the same argument about WSJ or the Economist on political lines). This is an excellent point. Unfortunate

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-29 Thread Paul Meyer
The fact that Fox channels GOP talking points like Madame effing Blavatsky is disheartening. I would find that obnoxious in a "liberal" or "mainstream" paper. Any ideological tendency might be worth hearing if the source shows some independent thought and willingness to look at evidence. What

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-28 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
A classic mistake is made here. Viewership does not equal believe/and or trust. Viewership is simply that viewership. I watch CBS news (Katie Couirc) Simply because it is the main local channel we get local news on. If it were an ABC/NBC station I would watch it more for news. I not believ

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-28 Thread Jordman
Wadda ya mean Tom? Didn't the American Spectator and the Weekly Standard agree with the Washington times? That's 3 of 'em. Their thinking must be mainstream! And then there's all those think tanksThey must be right...errr, correct. Tom Piwowar wrote: Or, in the Washington Times today.

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-28 Thread John DeCarlo
On 4/28/07, mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Weren't you supposed to change the topic to 'slam newspaper cause it doesn't agree with my idealogical bias' ? That may well be true, but do you know anyone that feels they can trust the reporting of Washington Times, or who believes that Fox News i

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-28 Thread mike
Yeah it's everyone *else* that's always wrong...I've been on the list long enough to expect this from you. I do live in that fantasy world where at some point you step from your fantasy land, but that is a lot to expect. Mike On 4/28/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Weren't you sup

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-28 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Weren't you supposed to change the topic to 'slam newspaper cause it doesn't >agree with my idealogical bias' ? If you write that you are simply uninformed about the history and ownership of this newspaper or you have already emigrated to fantasyland. **

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-28 Thread mike
Weren't you supposed to change the topic to 'slam newspaper cause it doesn't agree with my idealogical bias' ? Mike On 4/28/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Or, in the Washington Times today... You are supposed to know that the Washington Times reports on the news of a fantasy Univ

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-28 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Or, in the Washington Times today... You are supposed to know that the Washington Times reports on the news of a fantasy Universe parallel to our own. I guess as the years go by it gets harder to remember that the paper was established by and continues to be owned by the Rev. Moon to promote a

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-28 Thread Tom Piwowar
LA Times staff reporters say the #1 suspect is "Nosema ceranae" a fungus parasite. That's good. I just renewed my cell phone for another year. As a renewal I got an even better deal. $50 for the year. * ==> QUICK LIST-COM

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-27 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
30 years ago my brother and a few of his friends were "challenged" by a bunch of country boys one night. (He was hanging out with a bunch of long hairs as he called it.) So they went out to meet the country boys on a dark road. (My brothers friends were not the brightest bulbs in the closet)

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-27 Thread Paul Meyer
Was it South Park where they spoofed an Evening News ad, "Which major soft drink might be lethal? We'll tell you at 11:00!" Could have been the Simpsons. Chris Dunford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: attention and use it as a come on, while the full story might say something opposite.> The classic e

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-26 Thread Paul Meyer
In the army, huh? Are you sure he didn't have the concussion? ;-> "Rev. Stewart Marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 30 years ago my brother and a few of his friends were "challenged" by a bunch of country boys one night. (He was hanging out with a bunch of long hairs as he called it.) So

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-25 Thread Steve Rigby
On Apr 25, 2007, at 7:38 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: The classic example of this was an 11 o'clock news teaser I saw on one of the Baltimore TV stations a few years ago: "Is there snow in our future? Details at 11." The answer turned out to be "no". Or, in the Washington Times today, front p

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-25 Thread Steve Rigby
On Apr 25, 2007, at 7:00 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: What most reporting does is look for the hook or the grab line that will grab every ones attention and use it as a come on, while the full story might say something opposite. The majors (print and broadcast) tend to do a little better

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-25 Thread Chris Dunford
The classic example of this was an 11 o'clock news teaser I saw on one of the Baltimore TV stations a few years ago: "Is there snow in our future? Details at 11." The answer turned out to be "no". (I also love that they call these blatant promos "news updates".)

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-25 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
The press has a real problem distinguishing pseudo science from real science and rarely has anyone trained in science reporting on science. The same can be said of computer reporting (Except in specialized magazines) Religion and a host of other specialties. What most reporting does is look f

Re: [CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-25 Thread Steve Rigby
On Apr 25, 2007, at 2:52 PM, Constance Warner wrote: Maybe we won't have to lose our cellphones after all to save the crops. Just as well-I can imagine the HUGE protests if businesses (and teenagers) were asked to give up their precious cellphones and blackberries to save a BUG. The political b

[CGUYS] More on bees and cellphones

2007-04-25 Thread Constance Warner
In the news: more on colony collapse syndrome. In Tuesday's New York Times science section, there was a long article on disappearing bees and the research to find the causes. The scientists quoted in the article seemed to think that the causes for the syndrome were probably insecticides or pathog