[CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-29 Thread Steve Rigby
Are Mac OS X maintenance routines supposed to be run for each and every user of a given machine, or can a single administrator run the routines and have the results be of equal benefit to all users? I have spent some time on the 'net trying to resolve this question, and decided to check wi

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Are Mac OS X maintenance routines supposed to be run for each and >every user of a given machine, or can a single administrator run the >routines and have the results be of equal benefit to all users? Depends on which maintenance routines you are talking about. The daily, weekly, monthly scrip

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-29 Thread Steve Rigby
On Jul 29, 2007, at 4:46 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Depends on which maintenance routines you are talking about. The daily, weekly, monthly scripts all work on files at the system level so it doesn't matter who is logged in when they run. But this is not the case for all maintenance routines. Th

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
>the daily, weekly or monthly scripts such as run by MacJanitor Don't need MacJanitor any more. The Mac checks at startup to see if the maintenance scripts ran overnight. If not, it runs them right then. * ==> QUICK LIST-C

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-29 Thread db
Which OS ver does that? Tom Piwowar wrote: the daily, weekly or monthly scripts such as run by MacJanitor Don't need MacJanitor any more. The Mac checks at startup to see if the maintenance scripts ran overnight. If not, it runs them right then. ***

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-29 Thread Steve Rigby
On Jul 29, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Don't need MacJanitor any more. The Mac checks at startup to see if the maintenance scripts ran overnight. If not, it runs them right then. I think that is in OS 10.4 and above. I still run 10.3.9. Steve **

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-29 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Which OS ver does that? 4 * ==> QUICK LIST-COMMAND REFERENCE - Put the following commands in <== * ==> the body of an email & send 'em to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <== * Join the list: SUBSCRIBE COMPUTERGUYS-L Your Name * Too m

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-29 Thread mike
Just wondering since I haven't had a mac since my 6360...Maintenance for what? Mike On 7/29/07, Tom Piwowar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >the daily, weekly or monthly scripts such as run by MacJanitor > > Don't need MacJanitor any more. The Mac checks at startup to see if the > maintenance scri

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread Snyder, Mark
Wow! So you haven't seen any of the modern Macs. If memory serves, that model was early 1990s. Mac OS X is based on FreeBSD Unix now, which has changed it quite a lot. The maintenance is for system files that can get corrupted, typically with file permissions. You owe yourself another look to

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread Jordman
I leave my Macs on for days or weeks and sleep them most of the time that they are not being used. I just installed Anacron to stay on top of routine maintenance. I think this site has a pretty good discussion of Mac maintenance. http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html Jordan Steve Rigby wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread mike
I've seen em plenty and used them a little, I just haven't bought one because I can't justify the cost. I also didn't know you had to run nightly 'maintenance' to keep the thing from having corrupted files. BTW, I don't want to start a cost debate...among other things I get at least half my pc pa

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread Snyder, Mark
That is fine that you don't want to buy. I said look at, not buy, and only so that you get an idea of what posters are talking about. I do not have a cell phone and currently have no desire for an iPhone (or any other cell phone). But I look at them. Maintenance of the file system with schedul

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread Phil Marchetti
Steve, To answer your other question, the so called "cron jobs" (old name) need only be run once for each Mac computer. No need to run them for each user account if that's what you mean. Phil Marchetti On Jul 29, 2007, at 2:43 PM, Steve Rigby wrote: Are Mac OS X maintenance routines suppo

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread Phil Marchetti
I would suggest that as a system administrator you use: Apple Remote Desktop 3 Apple Remote Desktop 3 is the best way to manage the Macs on your network. Distribute software, provide real-time online help to end- users, create detailed software and hardware reports, and automate your routine

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Maintenance of the file system with scheduled utilities is a *nix thing >to increase file reliability that goes way back. Actually if you read those scripts you will see that all they do is rotate log files. OS X would make Commander Ductape proud. It logs almost everything you do. Those log fi

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
>I think this site has a pretty good discussion of Mac maintenance. >http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html Pretty terrible actually. Looks like it was written by a hypochondriac (or a lawyer?). Few of this listed items can be considered "maintenance." These are repair methods that are run for spe

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread Jordman
I said it was a good discussion. I didn't say I did any of them except Anacron, which checks way too often, but should do what I wanted. For the uninitiated it covers a lot of ground in one place, and information is good. But I guess it is written by and for lawyers. Tom Piwowar wrote: I think

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread Steve Rigby
On Jul 30, 2007, at 10:56 AM, mike wrote: I've seen em plenty and used them a little, I just haven't bought one because I can't justify the cost. I also didn't know you had to run nightly 'maintenance' to keep the thing from having corrupted files. You do not have to run nightly maintenan

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread Steve Rigby
On Jul 30, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Phil Marchetti wrote: Steve, To answer your other question, the so called "cron jobs" (old name) need only be run once for each Mac computer. No need to run them for each user account if that's what you mean. That was what I meant, and thanks. I was having a

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread Steve Rigby
On Jul 30, 2007, at 3:10 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Actually if you read those scripts you will see that all they do is rotate log files. What is the exact meaning of the numerical values that are logged within the MacJanitor window when I run that utility. They appear as something similar to

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread Tom Piwowar
>What maintenance routines other than daily, weekly, monthly need >to be run? When and how should I run them? I run MacJanitor on 10.4.8. With 10.4.8 you don't need MacJanitor. One of the most important things to do is to turn off the automatic updaters for the OS and various other programs. U

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread Vicky Staubly
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Steve Rigby wrote: On Jul 30, 2007, at 3:10 PM, Tom Piwowar wrote: Actually if you read those scripts you will see that all they do is rotate log files. What is the exact meaning of the numerical values that are logged within the MacJanitor window when I run that utility

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread Steve Rigby
On Jul 30, 2007, at 9:09 PM, Vicky Staubly wrote: I don't have a Mac, but on my FreeBSD servers, I get a monthly report (via email) with the number of hours each user has been logged in. Does that look like it matches up with that machine's usage? Your report appears to me to indicate hourly

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-30 Thread Paul Meyer
:10:41 PM Subject: Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines >Maintenance of the file system with scheduled utilities is a *nix thing >to increase file reliability that goes way back. Actually if you read those scripts you will see that all they do is rotate log files. OS X would make Comma

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-07-31 Thread Tom Piwowar
>How do I get control of the log files. I am running out of space and that >is mostly RSS feeds but I am looking for anything else I can clear out >while I am it. Log files are automatically rotated and the oldest ones deleted. Check the date on daily.log to confirm when maintenance last ran.

Re: [CGUYS] OS X maintenance routines

2007-08-01 Thread Stephen Brownfield
Tom, What maintenance routines other than daily, weekly, monthly need to be run? When and how should I run them? I run MacJanitor on 10.4.8. Steve Tom Piwowar wrote: Are Mac OS X maintenance routines supposed to be run for each and every user of a given machine, or can a single adminis