Re: [CGUYS] OpenMac

That's why I said I didn't think anything was emulated, thus my question about is there any hardware difference between the two. Mike On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:05 AM, John Duncan Yoyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think it is the hardware configuration that is being 'emulated' with > the BIOS p

Re: [CGUYS] OpenMac

I think it is the hardware configuration that is being 'emulated' with the BIOS properly tweaked and some modification to the loading procedure to OSX5. Take a look at . They used a modified version of OSX Pant

Re: [CGUYS] OpenMac

OS X can be run under normal bios...so what is being emulated if not the EFI? MIke On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Steve Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 21, 2008, at 5:36 PM, mike wrote: > > I've wondered about this, is there a ROM on the apple motherboards that > > the > > install d

Re: [CGUYS] OpenMac

On Apr 21, 2008, at 5:36 PM, mike wrote: I've wondered about this, is there a ROM on the apple motherboards that the install dvd looks for? If all you have to do is patch a few software files on the DVD to get it to run on a similar chipset, is there any real hardware difference from mac

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So there is no hardware difference? Technically, can't you alter darwin without any issues? I haven't read anything that said Apple's case was any more then non existent or weak at the most. There are posts up all over the place about what files need to be altered and how to do it, Apple has don

Re: [CGUYS] OpenMac

>I've wondered about this, is there a ROM on the apple motherboards that the >install dvd looks for? If all you have to do is patch a few software files >on the DVD to get it to run on a similar chipset, is there any real hardware >difference from mac to any other machine? You are forgetting the

Re: [CGUYS] OpenMac

I've wondered about this, is there a ROM on the apple motherboards that the install dvd looks for? If all you have to do is patch a few software files on the DVD to get it to run on a similar chipset, is there any real hardware difference from mac to any other machine? Mike On Mon, Apr 21, 2008

Re: [CGUYS] OpenMac

On Apr 21, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Well it seems to have hit the tech guys this weekend. Here is Cnet's photo review of the machines. They are also calling it a "clone." It is not a clone. It would have to replicate the electronic and digital architecture and des

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Well it seems to have hit the tech guys this weekend. Here is Cnet's photo review of the machines. http://earthlink.com.com/2300-1042_3-6237733-1.html?part=earthlink I am still interested to see if it is hype or real. Stewart At 05:20 PM 4/18/2008, you wrote: >I've been following this threa

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>I've been following this thread for the last couple days, but only >received the original post today (4/18/08). Why would be? It might be interesting to peruse that email's headers. * ** List info, subscription managemen

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

On Apr 18, 2008, at 4:38 PM, Matthew Taylor wrote: Since the insides of an Apple machine are mostly COTS stuff anyway, and run Windows really, really well in most press reports, it would seem logical that Dell or some other player would wrap a case around those parts and let it loose in the

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

It's called EFI. It's the new interface between the OS and hardware. It's supported in one way or another by most OS vendors. Reading about it I'm not sure it's a step ahead as much as a sidestep. Seems like one more thing that can get corrupted since it sits on the HD. OS X will run on legacy

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

More than that I think it is something similar to the way the original IBM checked the BIOS (Apple calls it something different) that does not allow Leopard to run on a Dell. Dell does have higher end machines. They bought Alienware a couple of years ago. Stewart At 03:38 PM 4/18/2008, you

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

Since the insides of an Apple machine are mostly COTS stuff anyway, and run Windows really, really well in most press reports, it would seem logical that Dell or some other player would wrap a case around those parts and let it loose in the world. I suppose the problem is that because Appl

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

I'm hoping somebody like Dell just happens to put out a Leopard friendly machine. Let the hobbyists talk it up for it's Mac friendly ways and see if it improves sales. On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Steve Rigby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 16, 2008, at 10:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [CGUYS] OpenMac

I've been following this thread for the last couple days, but only received the original post today (4/18/08). Why would be? Steve Steve Rigby wrote: In a move that's sure to get the attention of Apple's lawyers, one company has started advertising a new $400 hackintosh dubbed the "OpenMa

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

On Apr 16, 2008, at 10:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hoax http://gizmodo.com/380488/psystar-exposed-looks-like-a-hoax Since it is indeed quite possible to cause a Windows machine to be able to run OS X, and a fair number of folks have done it with success, why would it not be probabl

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

My dad's IE department had been running Trash 80's model III's for a few years and were expressly forbidden from playing games on them. If a game were caught it would mean the end of Computers for his IE department. (Not his rule, but his Boss's rule) When they got their first IBM clones, (A

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>Somebody will eventually try to order one and let the world know. It >isn't all that difficult to get the right pile of parts. Do any of the other geezerz on the list remember the early days of PCs? IBM was fighting off the clones by using a proprietary BIOS. Anyone who could make a legit BIOS

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

Somebody will eventually try to order one and let the world know. It isn't all that difficult to get the right pile of parts. I expect Macs may start coming with a chip built in that identifies the hardware as legit. On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:14 AM, John Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, b

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

Ah, but can you actually buy one? If you order one will it actually be delivered? John Duncan Yoyo wrote: I don't think so. It is just a company so small as to not have an actual physical location. You can get to the configurations on the web page again. On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:23 PM, <[

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No prob.! Thanks for the corrections. Both Gorilla's and Guerrilla's indulge in nit picking when required. John DeCarlo wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:12 AM, John J Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Possibly a gorilla marketing tactic. I am a day behind on the Tech 5 Webcast schedule. H

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

I don't think so. It is just a company so small as to not have an actual physical location. You can get to the configurations on the web page again. On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:23 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hoax > > > http://gizmodo.com/380488/psystar-exposed-looks-like-a-hoax > > > > >

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Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

On Apr 16, 2008, at 8:27 AM, John J Settle wrote: I hear from John C. Dvorak's (www.dvorak.org/blog) Tech 5 report that the OpenMac has disappeared from the vendor's site. Can't imagine why. Not at all. The computer is still listed and described and for sale just as it was previously.

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

All depends on wether or not they want to be a primate. Stewart At 07:00 PM 4/16/2008, you wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:12 AM, John J Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Possibly a gorilla marketing tactic. I am a day behind on the Tech 5 > Webcast schedule. He publishes them on Pacific

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 10:12 AM, John J Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Possibly a gorilla marketing tactic. I am a day behind on the Tech 5 > Webcast schedule. He publishes them on Pacific time and I listen on Eastern. Or maybe even a guerilla marketing tactic. Sorry, a minor nit, but I h

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

I could dig out the details, but the sound was onboard, intel board. I haven't used a sound card in years for any system i've built...onboard sound is pretty good. Mike On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 12:01 PM, John J Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anad a darn fine NAS it probably is too. Were you

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

Anad a darn fine NAS it probably is too. Were you using the sound device that came onboard the motherboard or a soundcard? mike wrote: We did, and now it's a NAS. Mike On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:04 AM, John J Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Rev. Marshall , I think Mike built a H

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

We did, and now it's a NAS. Mike On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:04 AM, John J Settle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rev. Marshall , >I think Mike built a Hackintosh. > JJS > > > Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: > > > Many sound devices require you to run their software installer to > > install the

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

Rev. Marshall , I think Mike built a Hackintosh. JJS Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Many sound devices require you to run their software installer to install them not use Windows add. Also check devices and see if there are any devices showing not installed properly (Yellow Exclamation

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

Many sound devices require you to run their software installer to install them not use Windows add. Also check devices and see if there are any devices showing not installed properly (Yellow Exclamation marks) Remove these and it might ask to reinstall. Stewart At 11:58 AM 4/16/2008, you

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

A friend and I did that a few months ago, the thing worked perfect except for the sound wouldn't work. Mike On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:01 AM, John Duncan Yoyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I looked last night they had a cheap one- around $400 and an > expensive one that was listed at nearly a

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

I have an excellent book at home that has that as a build your own project. I'll see if I can send you title and author. Guided me through building (or assembling) by own Core Duo Pentium Windows PC. It actually works! John Duncan Yoyo wrote: When I looked last night they had a cheap one- arou

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

When I looked last night they had a cheap one- around $400 and an expensive one that was listed at nearly a $1000. Right now I can't get to the descriptions because they can't process credit cards according to the site. I wonder if Apple went after their credit card processor or the bank.

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

Possibly a gorilla marketing tactic. I am a day behind on the Tech 5 Webcast schedule. He publishes them on Pacific time and I listen on Eastern. Tom Piwowar wrote: I hear from John C. Dvorak's (www.dvorak.org/blog) Tech 5 report that the OpenMac has disappeared from the vendor's site. Can't im

Re: [CGUYS] "OpenMac" / Missing?

>I hear from John C. Dvorak's (www.dvorak.org/blog) Tech 5 report that >the OpenMac has disappeared from the vendor's site. Can't imagine why. It is there this morning. Maybe they took down the site for a while to increase the buzz. *

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Ah, how fast things change! On the April 15th edition of Tech 5, (www.dvorak.org/blog) reports the Mac clone is still on, now call Open PC. Priced around $810.00 and licensing issues abound! Apple's lawyer probably has his running shoes on now. :>) Snyder, Mark (IT Civilian) wrote: The blog i

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The blog is not up to date Psystar said yesterday that they intend to challenge Apple's licensing terms for Mac OS X in court. This should make the new lawyer they grabbed from HP get off to a running start! Thank you, Mark Snyder I hear from John C. Dvorak's (www.dvorak.org/blog) Tech 5 rep

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I hear from John C. Dvorak's (www.dvorak.org/blog) Tech 5 report that the OpenMac has disappeared from the vendor's site. Can't imagine why. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** po

[CGUYS] OpenMac

In a move that's sure to get the attention of Apple's lawyers, one company has started advertising a new $400 hackintosh dubbed the "OpenMac." http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/04/openmac-a-poor.html * ** List info,