So many different ways to slice it. This one is called on-demand
streaming. Lala.com will play any song for you one time. Then sell you
the right to play it as many times as you like for a dime.
This feels a lot more reasonable to me than the Zune model. A dime is a
fair price and I'm not
The dictator has spoken! All Obey!
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Maybe in your made up subscription service...but not the one we were
talking
about. You seem to like doing that, change what is true into what is not,
then argue that. You end up arguing
Mike, was that posted to prove Tom's point, yet again?
Hope you graduate soon!
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
-Original Message-
The dictator has spoken! All Obey!
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
There you go again - don't discuss the topic, just call
Sometimes mike is afraid that if he's not a jerk, he'll be nothing at all.
Tom Piwowar wrote:
Maybe in your made up subscription service...but not the one we were talking
about. You seem to like doing that, change what is true into what is not,
then argue that. You end up arguing with
Aw stop it, yer making me all misty eyed.
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Jordan jor17...@gmail.com wrote:
Sometimes mike is afraid that if he's not a jerk, he'll be nothing at all.
Tom Piwowar wrote:
Maybe in your made up subscription service...but not the one we were
talking
about.
If music isn't your thing, that's ok. For some people it's in their lives
more.
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
Well anyone that would find it hard to buy ten songs a month...who bought
into a service because they love getting new music, must have other
Maybe in your made up subscription service...but not the one we were talking
about. You seem to like doing that, change what is true into what is not,
then argue that. You end up arguing with yourself more then anyone else
this way. I can imagine seeing you in a grocery..alone in the
Maybe in your made up subscription service...but not the one we were talking
about. You seem to like doing that, change what is true into what is not,
then argue that. You end up arguing with yourself more then anyone else
this way. I can imagine seeing you in a grocery..alone in the
I signed up for the free two weeks...basically five bux a month for
unlimited music...can't beat that with a stick.
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote:
Why has every attempt to date at selling such a subscription service
been a flop
You might mention
Anyone ever rented records, CDs, ... Ever wanted to?
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
-Original Message-
I am humbled...
http://gizmodo.com/5256174/new-zune-ad-obliterated-because-you-know-its
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It appears that this model is not very strong:
http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/05/the-new-new-napster-intros-5m
onth-streaming-5-downloads.ars
Ars reports that Napster, now part of Best Buy, is selling similar
(streaming) for $5/month, with 5 DRM-free d/l. They give it a yawn...
Thank
Anyone ever rented records, CDs, ... Ever wanted to?
Anyone ever paid for XM/Sirius? What's the difference? (Well, other than
that with Zune Pass you get to pick the music, you get to keep some of it
permanently, and you don't have to buy special equipment to do it.)
Or how about Rhapsody? It's
No, I just never liked the idea of renting, unless I really did want to
leave the rental behind after a short period of time. No XM/Sirius for
me, either and I don't pay for TV. I save most of my salary, spend only
after careful consideration. I am mostly conservative with my money and
avoid
No, I just never liked the idea of renting, unless I
really did want to leave the rental behind after a
short period of time. No XM/Sirius for me, either
and I don't pay for TV.
That's fine, Mark, but it's a far cry from Anyone ever rented records, CDs,
... Ever wanted to?, isn't it?
Not to me, Chris; I think of both as wasting money. No rented music for
me, thank you.
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
-Original Message-
No, I just never liked the idea of renting, unless I really did want
to leave the rental behind after a short period of time. No XM/Sirius
for me,
Are you guys really trying to say that this is a bad deal? If so, can you
come up with any rational reason to say that other than it's an MS service?
I recall that in the past this company has launched subscrption services
and then withdrawn them, leaving subscribers high and dry. Is that why
I would be humbled, too, if I had read your little cartoon and didn't notice
that it was lying.
You didn't get the joke.
Actually I'm a bit surprised at the generally hostile press/blogosphere
reaction to this ad. I think the false notes struck by the Laptop Hunters
ads has poisoned the well
At 7:50 AM -0400 5/19/09, Chris Dunford wrote:
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Or how about Rhapsody? It's about the same price as ZP but you don't get to
keep ANY of the music.
Unless you happen to have a copy of AudioHijackPro. ;-)
--
Roger
Lovettsville, VA
And the proposition that somebody would spend
$10,000s filling their iPod is so ridiculous.
Sure, but how DO you fill a 120GB music device legally without spending a
whole bunch of money?
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Similiar? The zune pass isn't streaming.
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:37 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote:
It appears that this model is not very strong:
http://arstechnica.com/media/news/2009/05/the-new-new-napster-intros-5m
Every year we buy a 'pass' to a local wild life zoo...I see the subscription
based music services similiar to that.
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Snyder, Mark - IdM (IS)
mark.sny...@ngc.com wrote:
Not to me, Chris; I think of both as wasting money. No rented music for
me, thank you.
The CD I'm playing at the moment was purchased about
10 years ago. Checking online I see the list price
for this boxed set is $71. I probably paid a bit less,
I don't remember. It has 54 tracks, so I guess the
Zune price is $81. So the Zune cost is higher by at
least $10. At 10 tracks
You don't. Tom is walking around with his zune and one cd he bought ten
years ago
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote:
And the proposition that somebody would spend
$10,000s filling their iPod is so ridiculous.
Sure, but how DO you fill a 120GB music
Do you buy (or rent) software to fill your computer's disk drive?
Surely you don't, and I do not try to fill my iPod, either.
That misses the point. I buy music that pleases me. Music I will want
to hear again. Not just to fill up a storage device.
Thank you,
Mark Snyder
-Original
That misses the point. I buy music that pleases me. Music I will want
to hear again. Not just to fill up a storage device.
My iPod's drive was too small to hold all the music I had accumulated
over the years. Then I had to go back and delete stuff to make room for
the free podcasts. Then I
Sure, but how DO you fill a 120GB music device legally without spending a
whole bunch of money?
It is not a music device. It is a media device. I can fill it with
music videos, video podcasts, movies, etc. New TVs come with iPod docks
so I can play all this content on their big screens.
The CD I'm playing at the moment was purchased about 10 years ago.
Checking online I see the list price for this boxed set is $71. I
probably paid a bit less, I don't remember.
Amazon says my $71 boxed set is out of print, but lists a thrid-party
seller willing to sell one to me for $142.
This makes no sense. If you wanted the whole thing, and right away, you'd
just buy the tracks. And the price per track isn't $1.50, it's 99c, so it
would cost $53.46, not $81. That's $17.54 less than the CD list price.
Would the $53.46 get credited against the $15/month or would I still have to
Would the $53.46 get credited against the $15/month or would I still
have to pay that additionally? $53.46 + $15 = $68.46.
No. You can't add the $15 to the price because that pays for your 10 OTHER
free tracks plus access to the entire library. Or get 10 of the tracks for
nothing and only buy
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Chris Dunford seed...@gmail.com wrote:
And the proposition that somebody would spend
$10,000s filling their iPod is so ridiculous.
Sure, but how DO you fill a 120GB music device legally without spending a
whole bunch of money?
I converted my CD
I fill my iPod with primarily Podcasts (they are FREE). I don't think
I've spent $50 in the last 4 years on music from the iTunes store. All
my music is legal downloads or from CD/cassettes/LPs that I own.
Steve
Chris Dunford wrote:
And the proposition that somebody would spend
$10,000s
I think it goes to show that everyone has their own likes. I have no
problem with that. I just visited Victoria Canada and would buy a
years pass to the Buchart Gardens. On the other hand I probably own
30 music CDs. I have friends who own hundreds. I own maybe 5 movies
on DVD. My mother
In an early post talk about comparing services. I think it should be
noted that Zune Pass lets you keep 10 downloads a month, iTunes offers
free downloads each week (mind, you can only download what they are
offering for free).
Chris,
I may not be a doctor, but take a chill pill. I see the
discussion as to the differences between service and which service is
right for you. To do this fairly you need to look at all the costs of
each service. Somebody mentioned a service similar to Zune Pass but
only $5 a
It would be a better deal for some, but the 5 dollar deal is only streaming
music...no device support, nothing kept local.
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Stephen Brownfield
steveei...@verizon.netwrote:
Chris,
I may not be a doctor, but take a chill pill. I see the discussion
as to
No, they don't roll over.
Not good. There goes M$ again, cramming things down our throats even when
we don't want them. Haven't they seen those clever ads about rollover
minutes?
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Well anyone that would find it hard to buy ten songs a month...who bought
into a service because they love getting new music, must have other issues
we can't cover here without multiple therapists
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Tom Piwowar t...@tjpa.com wrote:
No, they don't roll over.
Not
I may not be a doctor, but take a chill pill. I see the
discussion as to the differences between service and which service is
right for you. To do this fairly you need to look at all the costs of
each service.
Sorry. I couldn't agree more with deciding which service is right for you,
and
Well anyone that would find it hard to buy ten songs a month...who bought
into a service because they love getting new music, must have other issues
we can't cover here without multiple therapists
Some months I can easily contemplate not hearing 10 new songs worth
keeping. M$ tends to be a
Anyone see the new Zune Pass ads?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ExogURaeIfeature=player_embedded
Any thoughts?
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Anyone see the new Zune Pass ads?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ExogURaeIfeature=player_embedded
Any thoughts?
Zune Pass is pretty good. Basically, for $15/month you have access to *all*
the music in the library. If you cancel your subscription, your tracks
expire in a month or so, but
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_ExogURaeIfeature=player_embedded
Wow. Would anybody take financial advice from somebody so out of touch
with reality? He's probably peddling AIG stock too.
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Zune Pass is pretty good.
Why has every attempt to date at selling such a subscription service been
a flop. Is this one structured any differently than past failures? Or
does M$ think the brand will make the difference?
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http://gizmodo.com/5256174/new-zune-ad-obliterated-because-you-know-its-stu
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Why has every attempt to date at selling such a subscription service
been a flop
You might mention this to Rhapsody. They don't seem to be aware that they
have flopped.
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I am humbled...
http://gizmodo.com/5256174/new-zune-ad-obliterated-because-you-know-
its-stupid
I would be humbled, too, if I had read your little cartoon and didn't notice
that it was lying. As I mentioned--and as the text under the cartoon ALSO
mentions--you get 10 non-DRM tracks each
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