Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL & answering machines/DSL...]

2009-03-01 Thread Fred Holmes
At 05:43 PM 2/26/2009, Tony B wrote: >Let's not confuse the issue. Gas heaters use pilot lights, and the >thermocouple in the flame generates enough micro voltage to run the >thermostat. Again, an outside source of electricity would only be >required to run any fans. But the units will heat a house

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL & answering machines/

2009-02-27 Thread Richard P.
Years ago a friend put one of the ventless heaters in a small trailer she was renting. When she got home on a cold winter day, everything was soaked inside from the water vapor. Obviously, it wasn't a good fit for that type of installation. Richard P. On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:00 PM, b_s-wilk wr

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL & answering machines/

2009-02-27 Thread b_s-wilk
>We have two propane heaters--no electricity, no natural gas lines. >Glow-Warm 18,000 BTU, Comfort Glow 15,000 BTU. Can be vented or >unvented. Ours are unvented since they're so small and low-power. Doesn't unvented fill the house with noxious fumes? I have read that even cooking with gas has

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL & answering machines/

2009-02-27 Thread Tom Piwowar
>We have two propane heaters--no electricity, no natural gas lines. >Glow-Warm 18,000 BTU, Comfort Glow 15,000 BTU. Can be vented or >unvented. Ours are unvented since they're so small and low-power. Doesn't unvented fill the house with noxious fumes? I have read that even cooking with gas has

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL & answering machines/DSL...]

2009-02-26 Thread b_s-wilk
>passive gas heaters Tell us more. I Googled the term and got just 1 hit (in French). We have two propane heaters--no electricity, no natural gas lines. Glow-Warm 18,000 BTU, Comfort Glow 15,000 BTU. Can be vented or unvented. Ours are unvented since they're so small and low-power. Both hav

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL & answering machines/DSL...]

2009-02-26 Thread db
The point I was trying to make is while the models you speak of require no electricity, people should be aware there are some which do. and for more than the fan. db. Richard P. wrote: The term is one I heard to indicate an ability to have a gas heater be able to run without an outside sourc

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL & answering machines/DSL...]

2009-02-26 Thread Rev. Stewart Marshall
Not anymore. Many of them have gone to a pilotless ignition system. (Including gas stoves) You need electricity to run the fan, and also the thermostat. Unless you are talking about gas space heaters. Stewart At 04:43 PM 2/26/2009, you wrote: Let's not confuse the issue. Gas heaters use pil

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL & answering machines/

2009-02-26 Thread Tom Piwowar
>Depends on what they use to ignite the gas and to control it. Could it use a catalytic process that does not require an igniter? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmn

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL & answering machines/DSL...]

2009-02-26 Thread Tony B
Let's not confuse the issue. Gas heaters use pilot lights, and the thermocouple in the flame generates enough micro voltage to run the thermostat. Again, an outside source of electricity would only be required to run any fans. But the units will heat a house with no electricity at all. Or, if you

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL & answering machines/DSL...]

2009-02-26 Thread Richard P.
The term is one I heard to indicate an ability to have a gas heater be able to run without an outside source of electricity. Don't know if the terminology is accurate. Lopi gas stoves makes a great one: http://www.lopistoves.com/product_guide/gas_stoves.aspx The pilot light is lit by an onboard

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL & answering machines/DSL...]

2009-02-26 Thread db
Depends on what they use to ignite the gas and to control it. In the old days it was lit with a match... more recently, like your electrically ignited gas stoves, it is often electricity... but unlike gas stove, heaters have thermocouples which may require electricity ... and sometimes a ther

Re: [CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL & answering machines/DSL...]

2009-02-26 Thread Tony B
Heh. That *is* an odd phraseology - sounds like a medical device. :) http://www.fireplacesandwoodstoves.com/indoor-fireplaces/propane-fireplaces.aspx Gas heaters generally take either propane or natural gas, and require no electricity to heat. Some units have a fan, but it's not really necessary.

[CGUYS] passive gas heaters [Was: DSL & answering machines/DSL...]

2009-02-26 Thread Tom Piwowar
>passive gas heaters Tell us more. I Googled the term and got just 1 hit (in French). * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cgu