Re: [Cooker] /etc/passwd in RPMs

2001-04-05 Thread Eugenio Diaz
--- Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 03 April 2001 15:42, John Cavan wrote: what's wrong with .rpmnew ? Nothing for me, but think about it from a newbie perspective. They will likely think that something went wrong during installation and around a rather critical file.

Re: [Cooker] /etc/passwd in RPMs

2001-04-04 Thread R.I.P. Deaddog
What John means is from an *absolute* newbie's perspective. I still remembered when I use rpm the first time, when I saw those rpmsave, rpmnew etc, I wondered if my config files are trashed or completely replaced or something.. completely no idea what's going on at that time. Abel Cheung

Re: [Cooker] /etc/passwd in RPMs

2001-04-03 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
John Cavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it really necessary to have /etc/passwd and /etc/group in RPMs? I yes, needed for install in any case new/removed groups are merged by update-passwd file. -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org --Chmouel

Re: [Cooker] /etc/passwd in RPMs

2001-04-03 Thread John Cavan
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: John Cavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it really necessary to have /etc/passwd and /etc/group in RPMs? I yes, needed for install in any case new/removed groups are merged by update-passwd file. Would it not make more sense for the install program to create the

Re: [Cooker] /etc/passwd in RPMs

2001-04-03 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
John Cavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would it not make more sense for the install program to create the base files in /etc and then execute update-passwd? Keeps /etc from being littered with *.rpmnew files and keeps newbies from wondering what the heck is going on. what's wrong with .rpmnew

Re: [Cooker] /etc/passwd in RPMs

2001-04-03 Thread John Cavan
On 3 Apr 2001, Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: John Cavan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would it not make more sense for the install program to create the base files in /etc and then execute update-passwd? Keeps /etc from being littered with *.rpmnew files and keeps newbies from wondering what

Re: [Cooker] /etc/passwd in RPMs

2001-04-03 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tuesday 03 April 2001 15:42, John Cavan wrote: what's wrong with .rpmnew ? Nothing for me, but think about it from a newbie perspective. They will likely think that something went wrong during installation and around a rather critical file. Basically, all I'm suggesting is that we

Re: [Cooker] /etc/passwd in RPMs

2001-04-03 Thread John Cavan
Ed Wilts wrote: Basically, all I'm suggesting is that we treat /etc/passwd and similar files like XF86Config... create it, never install it. After that, specific packages can add or remove as needed, including setup. I disagree. I regularly go through and search for .rpmnew files and

[Cooker] /etc/passwd in RPMs

2001-04-02 Thread John Cavan
Hey guys, Is it really necessary to have /etc/passwd and /etc/group in RPMs? I can't possibly think of a install of Mandrake that would retain the initial copies of these files past about an hour, so updates just leave a bunch of *.rpmnew files lying around. Would it not be better to create the