Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-08 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: better ntp support, configurable out of mcc it already is, but from the time wizard, not from the server section where is that, then? It might just be my blind eyes. I try mcc, go to system, then launch the set date and time. It is not

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-08 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: better ntp support, configurable out of mcc it already is, but from the time wizard, not from the server section Just noting in passing, this is a genuine problem, even for cookers. My system administators installed some patches to reject

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-08 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 14:03:47 + Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you need to install the drakwizard package. I tied using the time server in drakwizard, on multiple occasions and with all listed Time Severs, but all I get is Warning: The time servers are not responding..etc. Have

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-08 Thread ef2
- Original Message - From: Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] where is that, then? It might just be my blind eyes. I try mcc, go to system, then launch the set date and time. It is not there. you need to install the drakwizard package. This also could be improved by adding a

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-08 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 02:03:47PM +, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: better ntp support, configurable out of mcc it already is, but from the time wizard, not from the server section where is that, then? It might just be my blind eyes.

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-08 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 02:05:16PM +, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: better ntp support, configurable out of mcc it already is, but from the time wizard, not from the server section Just noting in passing, this is a genuine problem, even

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-08 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: better ntp support, configurable out of mcc it already is, but from the time wizard, not from the server section where is that, then? It might just be my blind eyes. I try mcc, go to system, then launch the set date and

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-08 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Wed, Oct 08, 2003 at 08:25:01PM +, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: better ntp support, configurable out of mcc it already is, but from the time wizard, not from the server section where is that, then? It might just be my

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-08 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you need to install the drakwizard package. I tied using the time server in drakwizard, on multiple occasions and with all listed Time Severs, but all I get is Warning: The time servers are not responding..etc. Have only been successful if

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-08 Thread Thierry Vignaud
ef2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I try mcc, go to system, then launch the set date and time. It is not there. you need to install the drakwizard package. This also could be improved by adding a server tools entry to check in the drakconf menu. So that the first time, it would install

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-04 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:34:46PM +0200, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: better ntp support, configurable out of mcc it already is, but from the time wizard, not from the server section where is that, then? It might just be my blind eyes. I try mcc, go

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-04 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Fri, Oct 03, 2003 at 01:34:46PM +0200, Thierry Vignaud wrote: Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: better ntp support, configurable out of mcc it already is, but from the time wizard, not from the server section Just noting in passing, this is a genuine problem, even for

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-03 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Keld Jørn Simonsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: better ntp support, configurable out of mcc it already is, but from the time wizard, not from the server section harmonization of drakx and mcc - using the same wizards etc. code consolidation will always be a goal

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-01 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Vincent Danen : BTW, I actually need a solution for this too. At present, all samba builds from the source release get identical %{version}-%{release} which is probably a bad thing ... %define version 3.0 %define release 1 %define distro 92 Version: %version Release:

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-01 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Austin : On 09/26/2003 09:38:37 AM, Götz Waschk wrote: It would be nice if packages would include an implicit epoch tag, so a package build on 9.2 will always be newer than one for 9.1 with the same version and release tags. Hmmm, this is a neat idea. At present, any mdk

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-10-01 Thread Austin
On 10/01/2003 08:23:10 AM, Guillaume Rousse wrote: That's exactly why you shouldn't use individual packages, but only trust repositories. And this is a repository job to sort package by distribution target. You don't have to tell me that. You have to tell that to thousands of RedHat converts

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-27 Thread Luca Berra
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 02:34:02PM -0400, Austin wrote: On 09/26/2003 03:17:02 PM, Luca Berra wrote: It would be nice if packages would include an implicit epoch tag, so a package build on 9.2 will always be newer than one for 9.1 with the same version and release tags. it would conflict with

[Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Luca Landi
.. my personal guess for new Mandrake 10 (or 9.3?!?!)... - GCC 3.3.2 or better GCC 3.4.x - Linux Kernel 2.6.x - New KDE 3.2.x - New Lib QT 3.2.x - improved ACPI support! (Now is very bad!) - improved Notebook/Laptop support with hibernate/suspend native support (for me is very very

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Luca Landi wrote: .. my personal guess for new Mandrake 10 (or 9.3?!?!)... - GCC 3.3.2 or better GCC 3.4.x Requesting a specific version is pointless. What if 3.5 is stable alredady? - Linux Kernel 2.6.x What if 2.6.0 isn't out yet? - New KDE

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Eric Fernandez
Buchan Milne wrote: Instead of discussing version numbers, maybe you would like to discuss things we actually have control over? A better draksound : I proposed already an automatic serial test of OSS and ALSA drivers. Drakxservices : sort them by themes, and add more precise help to

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Eric Fernandez
Eric Fernandez wrote: Buchan Milne wrote: Instead of discussing version numbers, maybe you would like to discuss things we actually have control over? A better draksound : I proposed already an automatic serial test of OSS and ALSA drivers. Drakxservices : sort them by themes, and add more

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 11:37, Luca Landi wrote: .. my personal guess for new Mandrake 10 (or 9.3?!?!)... - GCC 3.3.2 or better GCC 3.4.x - Linux Kernel 2.6.x - New KDE 3.2.x - New Lib QT 3.2.x - improved ACPI support! (Now is very bad!) Um. MDK doesn't write acpi support. acpi4linux write

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Luca Landi
, Luca - Original Message - From: Adam Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10... On Fri, 2003-09-26 at 11:37, Luca Landi wrote: .. my personal guess for new Mandrake 10 (or 9.3

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
My 2 øre for mdk 10: better drakbakup support (it has already be greatly improved), including wizard setup for automatic backup (to disk) better ntp support, configurable out of mcc better setup for terminal-server, and this setup included in mcc pxe supported directly with terminal-server.

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Stew Benedict
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003, Keld [iso-8859-1] Jørn Simonsen wrote: My 2 øre for mdk 10: better drakbakup support (it has already be greatly improved), including wizard setup for automatic backup (to disk) I've got your notes on this one. Will look at it. better setup for terminal-server, and

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Freitag, 26. September 2003, 15:14:50 Uhr MET, schrieb Keld Jørn Simonsen: configurability of a contrib source out of postinstall in DrakX This is a good idea. I hope the suits don't decide against this to protect the added value of their powerpack DVDs. possiblity to nuke files with

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: My 2 øre for mdk 10: configurability of a contrib source out of postinstall in DrakX I would like to be able to specify an update source (since we have a local internal mirror, and bandwidth to official mirrors is both

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Austin
On 09/26/2003 09:38:37 AM, Götz Waschk wrote: It would be nice if packages would include an implicit epoch tag, so a package build on 9.2 will always be newer than one for 9.1 with the same version and release tags. Hmmm, this is a neat idea. At present, any mdk rpm you grab off the net, you

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Teletchéa Stéphane
Le ven 26/09/2003 à 12:32, Austin a écrit : On 09/26/2003 09:38:37 AM, Götz Waschk wrote: It would be nice if packages would include an implicit epoch tag, so a package build on 9.2 will always be newer than one for 9.1 with the same version and release tags. Hmmm, this is a neat idea.

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Austin wrote: On 09/26/2003 09:38:37 AM, Götz Waschk wrote: It would be nice if packages would include an implicit epoch tag, so a package build on 9.2 will always be newer than one for 9.1 with the same version and release tags. Hmmm, this is

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Vincent Danen
On Fri Sep 26, 2003 at 03:38:37PM +0200, Götz Waschk wrote: configurability of a contrib source out of postinstall in DrakX This is a good idea. I hope the suits don't decide against this to protect the added value of their powerpack DVDs. possiblity to nuke files with standard virus

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Vincent Danen
On Fri Sep 26, 2003 at 05:57:52PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: It would be nice if packages would include an implicit epoch tag, so a package build on 9.2 will always be newer than one for 9.1 with the same version and release tags. Hmmm, this is a neat idea. At present, any mdk rpm

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Keld Jørn Simonsen
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 03:52:18PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: My 2 øre for mdk 10: configurability of a contrib source out of postinstall in DrakX I would like to be able to specify an update source (since we

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 03:52:18PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Keld Jørn Simonsen wrote: My 2 øre for mdk 10: installing out of a disk .img with all boot facilities as a standard install way. Can you explain this one more?

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Luca Berra
On Fri, Sep 26, 2003 at 03:38:37PM +0200, Götz Waschk wrote: Which leads me to another problem: backported packages: Projects like plf sometimes need to backport cooker or contrib packages to the stable distribution. This can lead to problems when upgrading to the next stable distribution, when

Re: [Cooker] [Mandrake 10] An Idea for next MDK 10...

2003-09-26 Thread Austin
On 09/26/2003 03:17:02 PM, Luca Berra wrote: It would be nice if packages would include an implicit epoch tag, so a package build on 9.2 will always be newer than one for 9.1 with the same version and release tags. it would conflict with epochs set for other purposes Not if all our packages were