Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-05 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Luca Berra ha scritto: if the virus is a spoofing virus you have no way of identifying the sender mail address, unless you force the sender to authenticate before sending a message. well, smpt auth could be and idea for this purpose, but postfix indeed would knows the real client sender IP.

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-05 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Luca Berra ha scritto: On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 01:39:41PM +0200, Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/amavisd-new-0.20030616-1mdk.src.rpm :!wget ... But, before posting to contrib, I'm currently trying to find how to modify amavisd.conf so that: - local recipient

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-05 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Levi Ramsey ha scritto: On Thu Jul 03 13:39 +0200, Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: - let spam pass to users (but with X-Spam-Status) and at the same time collect all the recognized spam to a repository for further bayes learning. Collecting SA mails to a bayesian system is beyond stupid, as far as I

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-05 Thread Luca Berra
Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: $viruses_that_fake_sender_re = new_RE( qr'nimda|hybris|klez|bugbear|yaha|braid|sobig|palyh|inor|fizzer'i ); . this is used also to alter virus report, the user gets a report stating she received a virus from an unknown source, vs. a real mail address. which

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-05 Thread Luca Berra
Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: Luca Berra ha scritto: i'd also like for the rpm to provide a modified master.cf with all goodies described in README.postfix (the part below the ascii art diagram i mean) You are right, but indeed, I was thiking to something different. Instead of a awkward %post

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-05 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Luca Berra ha scritto: Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: Luca Berra ha scritto: i'd also like for the rpm to provide a modified master.cf with all goodies described in README.postfix (the part below the ascii art diagram i mean) You are right, but indeed, I was thiking to something different. Instead of a

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-05 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Luca Berra ha scritto: Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: $viruses_that_fake_sender_re = new_RE( qr'nimda|hybris|klez|bugbear|yaha|braid|sobig|palyh|inor|fizzer'i ); . this is used also to alter virus report, the user gets a report stating she received a virus from an unknown source, vs. a real mail

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-04 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Bret Baptist ha scritto: The above information was not correct, from the amavisd.conf: # Here is an overall picture (sequence of events) of how pieces fit together # (only virus controls are shown, spam controls work the same way): # # bypass_virus_checks? == PASS # no viruses? == PASS #

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-04 Thread Luca Berra
Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: For the spoofed viruses a map can be set up to not warn at all: Yes, but the sending user of the LAN won't know he has taken a virus... if the virus is a spoofing virus you have no way of identifying the sender mail address, unless you force the sender to authenticate

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Michael Scherer
So you have to start a process for every single massage. That is wat I want to avoid. It is no problem while you are receiving only few messages per hour. But else, the overhead is to much. A daemon talking smtp is prefered (and that is waht amavisd-new does). But, IIRC, amavis forks a new

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Mail Scanning

2003-07-03 Thread Chris Picton
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 05:59, magic wrote: I would like to second the use of amavisd-new. I use it for our mailserver and it is awesome. We do about 100,000 messages a day, not that high volume, but enough. I have never had a problem with amavisd-new.

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 08:18 schrieb Michael Scherer: So you have to start a process for every single massage. That is wat I want to avoid. It is no problem while you are receiving only few messages per hour. But else, the overhead is to much. A daemon talking smtp is prefered (and

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Martin Fahrendorf ha scritto: Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 08:18 schrieb Michael Scherer: So you have to start a process for every single massage. That is wat I want to avoid. It is no problem while you are receiving only few messages per hour. But else, the overhead is to much. A daemon talking

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 13:39 schrieb Giuseppe Ghibò: Martin Fahrendorf ha scritto: Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 08:18 schrieb Michael Scherer: So you have to start a process for every single massage. That is wat I want to avoid. It is no problem while you are receiving only few messages

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Mail Scanning

2003-07-03 Thread Bret Baptist
On Wednesday 02 July 2003 10:59 pm, magic wrote: magic wrote: Bret Baptist wrote: Bret Baptist wrote: I would like to second the use of amavisd-new. I use it for our mailserver and it is awesome. We do about 100,000 messages a day, not that high volume, but enough. I have never had a

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
Martin Fahrendorf ha scritto: Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 13:39 schrieb Giuseppe Ghibò: Martin Fahrendorf ha scritto: Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 08:18 schrieb Michael Scherer: So you have to start a process for every single massage. That is wat I want to avoid. It is no problem while you are

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Mail Scanning

2003-07-03 Thread Bret Baptist
On Wednesday 02 July 2003 10:59 pm, magic wrote: magic wrote: Bret Baptist wrote: Bret Baptist wrote: I would like to second the use of amavisd-new. I use it for our mailserver and it is awesome. We do about 100,000 messages a day, not that high volume, but enough. I have never had a

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Getting closer!

2003-07-03 Thread magic
Buchan Milne wrote: I don't have much time to look at all of this, so if you can get something together it would help. Something like that can be added quite easily late in the dev cycle, but we can't wait much longer to switch to openldap-2.1.x and dumping sasl2, so I will spend what time I have

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Bret Baptist
On Thursday 03 July 2003 9:47 am, Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: Martin Fahrendorf ha scritto: Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 13:39 schrieb Giuseppe Ghibò: Martin Fahrendorf ha scritto: Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 08:18 schrieb Michael Scherer: So you have to start a process for every single massage.

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Bret Baptist
On Thursday 03 July 2003 9:47 am, Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: Martin Fahrendorf ha scritto: Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 13:39 schrieb Giuseppe Ghibò: Martin Fahrendorf ha scritto: Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 08:18 schrieb Michael Scherer: So you have to start a process for every single massage.

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Luca Berra
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 09:25:25AM +0200, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: Content-Description: signed data Am Donnerstag, 3. Juli 2003 08:18 schrieb Michael Scherer: So you have to start a process for every single massage. That is wat I want to avoid. It is no problem while you are receiving only few

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Luca Berra
On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 01:39:41PM +0200, Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: http://peoples.mandrakesoft.com/~ghibo/amavisd-new-0.20030616-1mdk.src.rpm :!wget ... But, before posting to contrib, I'm currently trying to find how to modify amavisd.conf so that: - local recipient users is warned about

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-03 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Thu Jul 03 13:39 +0200, Giuseppe Ghibò wrote: - let spam pass to users (but with X-Spam-Status) and at the same time collect all the recognized spam to a repository for further bayes learning. Collecting SA mails to a bayesian system is beyond stupid, as far as I can tell. You go through

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-02 Thread Kim Schulz
[snip] Isn't it just easyer to use amavisd-new? You don't need to start a bunch of programms for every mail and you can use a virus scanner too. AFAIC amavisd-new is not in mdk (only amavis-ng, which does not run as a daemon). Put it is a simple perl script. I would preffer MailScanner. I

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-02 Thread Luca Berra
Kim Schulz wrote: [snip] Isn't it just easyer to use amavisd-new? You don't need to start a bunch of programms for every mail and you can use a virus scanner too. AFAIC amavisd-new is not in mdk (only amavis-ng, which does not run as a daemon). Put it is a simple perl script. I would preffer

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-02 Thread magic
Martin Fahrendorf wrote: tarballs for SpamAssasin and MailScanner and set them up together as shown in the mailscanner site. But for a distribution intended for general consumer use, it would be great if the default install had a spam filter installed by default as most people will want one but

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-02 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2003 14:33 schrieb magic: ... Actually, spamassassin as setup runs as a deamon (spamd), and hooks into Postfix as a filter. So how do you feed the mails from postfix into spamd and how does spamd handles the mail back to postfix? Thanks, S Martin --

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-02 Thread Dave Cotton
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 14:33, magic wrote: Actually, spamassassin as setup runs as a deamon (spamd), and hooks into Postfix as a filter. At the moment the config here is: postfix + spamd + amavis-new as daemon + sophie as a daemon. running on an 850 AMD Duron with 256 Mb. It seemed to

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-02 Thread magic
Martin Fahrendorf wrote: Actually, spamassassin as setup runs as a deamon (spamd), and hooks into Postfix as a filter. So how do you feed the mails from postfix into spamd and how does spamd handles the mail back to postfix? I am not going to pretend I understand everything, but he's

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-02 Thread Luca Berra
magic wrote: Isn't it just easyer to use amavisd-new? You don't need to start a bunch of programms for every mail and you can use a virus scanner too. Actually, spamassassin as setup runs as a deamon (spamd), and hooks into Postfix as a filter. no, it does not. spamassassin runs as a

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-02 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Martin Fahrendorf : Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2003 14:33 schrieb magic: ... Actually, spamassassin as setup runs as a deamon (spamd), and hooks into Postfix as a filter. So how do you feed the mails from postfix into spamd and how does spamd handles the mail back to postfix?

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-02 Thread Luca Berra
Guillaume Rousse wrote: Through a global procmail rule: :0fw * 256000 | spamc And there is no need to feed the message back to postfix, as it is delivered immediatly. This concerns only incoming message. procmail is a very limited solution, it does have difficulties in dealing with maildirs,

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-02 Thread Bret Baptist
On Wednesday 02 July 2003 12:02 am, Martin Fahrendorf wrote: Isn't it just easyer to use amavisd-new? You don't need to start a bunch of programms for every mail and you can use a virus scanner too. AFAIC amavisd-new is not in mdk (only amavis-ng, which does not run as a daemon). Put it is a

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-02 Thread magic
Bret Baptist wrote: AFAIC amavisd-new is not in mdk (only amavis-ng, which does not run as a daemon). Put it is a simple perl script. Martin I would like to second the use of amavisd-new. I use it for our mailserver and it is awesome. We do about 100,000 messages a day,

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Mail Scanning

2003-07-02 Thread magic
magic wrote: Bret Baptist wrote: AFAIC amavisd-new is not in mdk (only amavis-ng, which does not run as a daemon). Put it is a simple perl script. Martin I would like to second the use of amavisd-new. I use it for our mailserver and it is awesome. We do

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Postfix, Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-02 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2003 16:13 schrieb magic: Martin Fahrendorf wrote: Actually, spamassassin as setup runs as a deamon (spamd), and hooks into Postfix as a filter. So how do you feed the mails from postfix into spamd and how does spamd handles the mail back to postfix? I am not going

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-02 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2003 17:26 schrieb Guillaume Rousse: Ainsi parlait Martin Fahrendorf : Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2003 14:33 schrieb magic: ... Actually, spamassassin as setup runs as a deamon (spamd), and hooks into Postfix as a filter. So how do you feed the mails from postfix

[Cooker] Mandrake mail server

2003-07-01 Thread magic
Hello all, I haven't seen anything recent about Postfix, Openldap, db41, cyrus-imapd sasl2 getting into the Cooker. Was just wondering if anyone is working on this, and what the status is. (Also I think it would be great if cyrus-imapd was moved from contrib to main.) Thanks! S

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server

2003-07-01 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 magic wrote: Hello all, I haven't seen anything recent about Postfix, Openldap, db41, cyrus-imapd sasl2 getting into the Cooker. Was just wondering if anyone is working on this, and what the status is. (Also I think it would be great if

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server

2003-07-01 Thread Clive Dove
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 08:32, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 magic wrote: Hello all, I haven't seen anything recent about Postfix, Openldap, db41, cyrus-imapd sasl2 getting into the Cooker. Was just wondering if anyone is working on this, and

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server

2003-07-01 Thread magic
Buchan Milne wrote: db4.1 got slipped in last week (didn't appear in my changelog mailbox ...) and postfix is rebuilt against it. We now need sasl2 built against db4.1, then openldap-2.1, then sasl2 again. Then we just (;-)) need to ensure everything works. I will try and update my openldap-2.1.x

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server

2003-07-01 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 magic wrote: I missed the db41 going into cooker. Did you upgrade db4, or install 41 maintain both libs on your system (I heard the latter is not a good thing to do, eventhough it works.) I would be glad to help! Are the rpms available on

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server

2003-07-01 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 09:30, Clive Dove wrote: I was thinking of adding configuration for it, From the looks of it I think that I will find it easier to download the tarballs for SpamAssasin and MailScanner and set them up together as shown in the mailscanner site. But for a distribution

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server

2003-07-01 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 05:32, Buchan Milne wrote: db4.1 got slipped in last week (didn't appear in my changelog mailbox ...) and postfix is rebuilt against it. We now need sasl2 built against db4.1, then openldap-2.1, then sasl2 again. Then we just (;-)) need to ensure everything works. I

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server

2003-07-01 Thread Clive Dove
On Tuesday 01 July 2003 09:56, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Clive Dove wrote: On Tuesday 01 July 2003 08:32, Buchan Milne wrote: While looking at mailservers, how about looking at including spamassassin? Spamassassin is in main. Do you mean adding

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server

2003-07-01 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brook Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 01 July 2003 05:32, Buchan Milne wrote: Did you have any fun with blackhole if not i can look at it myself. I don't have much time to look at all of this, so if you can get something together it would help.

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-01 Thread magic
Clive Dove wrote: I was thinking of adding configuration for it, From the looks of it I think that I will find it easier to download the tarballs for SpamAssasin and MailScanner and set them up together as shown in the mailscanner site. But for a distribution intended for general consumer

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake mail server - Spamassassin Razor

2003-07-01 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2003 05:48 schrieb magic: Clive Dove wrote: I was thinking of adding configuration for it, From the looks of it I think that I will find it easier to download the tarballs for SpamAssasin and MailScanner and set them up together as shown in the mailscanner site. But