Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-22 Thread andre
Op di 22-01-2002, om 13:29 schreef Fabrice FACORAT: > le mar 22-01-2002 à 01:30, Yura Gusev a écrit : > > On 21 Jan 2002, Fabrice FACORAT wrote: > > > > > 1╟/ when fail to launch miserably and you have to edit config files by > > > hand > > > > newbee does not need to do this. He can use draxcon

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-22 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pascal Terjan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > We have the 2.54BETA22 (like SuSE and RedHat) but the current version is > 2.54BETA30 (which is in Debian Woody and Sid). > Is there a reason to keep this old version when some features have been > added, or is this just a no more maintened package ? I

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-22 Thread Fabrice FACORAT
le mar 22-01-2002 à 01:30, Yura Gusev a écrit : > On 21 Jan 2002, Fabrice FACORAT wrote: > > > 1╟/ when fail to launch miserably and you have to edit config files by > > hand > > newbee does not need to do this. He can use draxconf,wizdrake,linuxconf or > call for support. My sentence was : whe

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread Quel Qun
On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 16:30, Yura Gusev wrote: > On 21 Jan 2002, Fabrice FACORAT wrote: > > > 3°/ when there is a pb and have to edit some files by hand without > > having X > > mcedit or pico. > Impressive amount of answers! Thanks to you all for keeping this annoying matter very civil. It is

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread andre
> newbee does not need to do this coz' he cant fix nor brake it. > _Normal_ user can use any editor (exept emacs). We have lift-off. I was waiting for this one.

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread Derek Simkowiak
> > newbee does not need to do this coz' he cant fix nor brake it. > > _Normal_ user can use any editor (exept emacs). > > We have lift-off. I hate to come in to the conversation late, but... I've had good luck with the "Nedit" editor. It's an X app, and works like a simple edit

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread Yura Gusev
On 21 Jan 2002, Fabrice FACORAT wrote: > 1°/ when fail to launch miserably and you have to edit config files by > hand newbee does not need to do this. He can use draxconf,wizdrake,linuxconf or call for support. > 2°/ when some partitions are incorrect in fstab and you have to boot in > single

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread Matti Kerttula
On 20 Jan 2002 23:45:24 +0100 "Fabrice FACORAT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > le dim 20-01-2002 à 23:17, Quel Qun a écrit : > > > > Hi, > > > > While trying to get some people started with Mandrake on irc, it appears > > that one of the big obstacle is the difficulty to edit a very simple > > te

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread Ingo Bauer
jove works nicely too Ingo On 20 Jan 2002, Fabrice FACORAT wrote: > le dim 20-01-2002 à 23:17, Quel Qun a écrit : > > > > Hi, > > > > While trying to get some people started with Mandrake on irc, it appears > > that one of the big obstacle is the difficulty to edit a very simple > > text config

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread Fabrice FACORAT
le lun 21-01-2002 à 21:06, Shara Hearns a écrit : > > > > joe is everything but user-friendly. That's the Ctrl-K D one. How can I > > > > guess I need this to save a file? mcedit is indeed much better, but mc > > > > is not installed by default, or is it? > > This isn't for you Fabrice, I'm just

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread Shara Hearns
> > > joe is everything but user-friendly. That's the Ctrl-K D one. How can I > > > guess I need this to save a file? mcedit is indeed much better, but mc > > > is not installed by default, or is it? This isn't for you Fabrice, I'm just gonna vent a bit here :) Joe is every bit as user friendly

RE: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread Murray J. Root
andre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Op ma 21-01-2002, om 19:37 schreef Franki: > > personally, I think even a mostly brian-dead user could figure out > how to > > use mc and mcedit .. > > > > especially since anyone who has used windows for any length of time > would be > > familiar with xtr

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread SI Reasoning
I have to say I like nano (which works like pico). I also love mc. The only issue I have with mc is that it does not utilize the general linux way of copy and paste (or shall I say highlight and middle click). This can be quite annoying at times. I also wish that I could get to a file faster with

RE: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread andre
Op ma 21-01-2002, om 19:37 schreef Franki: > personally, I think even a mostly brian-dead user could figure out how to > use mc and mcedit .. > > especially since anyone who has used windows for any length of time would be > familiar with xtree and norton commander... > > rgds > > Frank > > S

RE: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread Franki
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Shara Hearns Sent: Tuesday, 22 January 2002 2:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 03:54, Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek wrote: > > > What keystrokes? Everything in windows is mouse clicks. >

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread Shara Hearns
On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 03:54, Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek wrote: > > > What keystrokes? Everything in windows is mouse clicks. > > > In Win 3.1/95/98/NT3.51/NT4 _everything_ can be done with keyboard. At > laeast I know no application that is part of these OSes that has > controls inaccessible by

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread andre
Op ma 21-01-2002, om 06:20 schreef SI Reasoning: > What he is talking about is that those coming to linux > from the windows world, who know the windows default > keystrokes, would like a text editor that they could > just use without having to figure out new keystrokes. > I too like pico, but wis

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread Fabrice FACORAT
le lun 21-01-2002 à 07:10, Roger a écrit : > On Sun, 2002-01-20 at 23:52, Jeremy Salch wrote: > > On Sunday 20 January 2002 05:01 pm, you wrote:> On Sun, 2002-01-20 at 14:45, > > Fabrice FACORAT wrote: > > > > le dim 20-01-2002 à 23:17, Quel Qun a écrit : > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > While t

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread Fabrice FACORAT
le lun 21-01-2002 à 00:57, Leon Brooks a écrit : > On Monday 21 January 2002 07:01, Quel Qun wrote: > > On Sun, 2002-01-20 at 14:45, Fabrice FACORAT wrote: > > > le dim 20-01-2002 à 23:17, Quel Qun a écrit : > > > > While trying to get some people started with Mandrake on irc, it > > > > appears t

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek
> What keystrokes? Everything in windows is mouse clicks. > In Win 3.1/95/98/NT3.51/NT4 _everything_ can be done with keyboard. At laeast I know no application that is part of these OSes that has controls inaccessible by keyboard-only. I admit I had trobles with Win2k WinME management tools. But

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-21 Thread Oden Eriksson
On Sundayen den 20 January 2002 23.22, andre wrote: > > Hi, > > > > While trying to get some people started with Mandrake on irc, it appears > > that one of the big obstacle is the difficulty to edit a very simple > > text config file. > > > > Very often, people are booting windows to come asking

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-20 Thread Roger
On Sun, 2002-01-20 at 23:52, Jeremy Salch wrote: > On Sunday 20 January 2002 05:01 pm, you wrote:> On Sun, 2002-01-20 at 14:45, > Fabrice FACORAT wrote: > > > le dim 20-01-2002 à 23:17, Quel Qun a écrit : > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > While trying to get some people started with Mandrake on irc, it

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-20 Thread Shara Hearns
On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 00:20, SI Reasoning wrote: > What he is talking about is that those coming to linux > from the windows world, who know the windows default > keystrokes, would like a text editor that they could > just use without having to figure out new keystrokes. > I too like pico, but wis

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-20 Thread SI Reasoning
What he is talking about is that those coming to linux from the windows world, who know the windows default keystrokes, would like a text editor that they could just use without having to figure out new keystrokes. I too like pico, but wish it could be seperated from pine. It would be nice to have

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-20 Thread Shara Hearns
On Sun, 2002-01-20 at 23:52, Jeremy Salch wrote: > On Sunday 20 January 2002 05:01 pm, you wrote:> On Sun, 2002-01-20 at 14:45, > Fabrice FACORAT wrote: > > > le dim 20-01-2002 à 23:17, Quel Qun a écrit : > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > While trying to get some people started with Mandrake on irc, it

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-20 Thread Jeremy Salch
On Sunday 20 January 2002 05:01 pm, you wrote:> On Sun, 2002-01-20 at 14:45, Fabrice FACORAT wrote: > > le dim 20-01-2002 à 23:17, Quel Qun a écrit : > > > Hi, > > > > > > While trying to get some people started with Mandrake on irc, it > > > appears that one of the big obstacle is the difficulty

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-20 Thread andre
Op ma 21-01-2002, om 00:57 schreef Leon Brooks: > > Sissies! You should all be using sed! (-: > > Seriously, KDE has a default text editor, as do many other WM's. Who here > does no-X installs for a workstation? > > Cheers; Leon X probably wont work when you hit a snafu

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-20 Thread Maks Orlovich
On Sunday 20 January 2002 05:45 pm, you wrote: > le dim 20-01-2002 à 23:17, Quel Qun a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > While trying to get some people started with Mandrake on irc, it appears > > that one of the big obstacle is the difficulty to edit a very simple > > text config file. > > > > Very often,

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-20 Thread Leon Brooks
On Monday 21 January 2002 07:01, Quel Qun wrote: > On Sun, 2002-01-20 at 14:45, Fabrice FACORAT wrote: > > le dim 20-01-2002 à 23:17, Quel Qun a écrit : > > > While trying to get some people started with Mandrake on irc, it > > > appears that one of the big obstacle is the difficulty to edit a ver

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-20 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach »Quel Qun« am 2002-01-20 um 15:01:32 -0800 : > joe is everything but user-friendly. That's the Ctrl-K D one. How can I > guess I need this to save a file? mcedit is indeed much better, but mc I agree, I also don't like joe. However, jpico is quite nice. It's joe emulating pico. When

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-20 Thread Quel Qun
On Sun, 2002-01-20 at 14:45, Fabrice FACORAT wrote: > le dim 20-01-2002 à 23:17, Quel Qun a écrit : > > > > Hi, > > > > While trying to get some people started with Mandrake on irc, it appears > > that one of the big obstacle is the difficulty to edit a very simple > > text config file. > > > >

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-20 Thread Fabrice FACORAT
le dim 20-01-2002 à 23:17, Quel Qun a écrit : > > Hi, > > While trying to get some people started with Mandrake on irc, it appears > that one of the big obstacle is the difficulty to edit a very simple > text config file. > > Very often, people are booting windows to come asking for help and it

Re: [Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-20 Thread andre
> > > Hi, > > While trying to get some people started with Mandrake on irc, it appears > that one of the big obstacle is the difficulty to edit a very simple > text config file. > > Very often, people are booting windows to come asking for help and it is > quite hard to explain how they will h

[Cooker] Need a very simple editor

2002-01-20 Thread Quel Qun
Hi, While trying to get some people started with Mandrake on irc, it appears that one of the big obstacle is the difficulty to edit a very simple text config file. Very often, people are booting windows to come asking for help and it is quite hard to explain how they will have to use vi after r