[Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 09:27:23AM +0100, fcrozat wrote: There is absolutely no real bugs in this bug report.. Reminder : bugzilla is for bug REPORTS, not for discussions.. Use cooker mailing list for that.. Actually it is a bug. You're shipping beta software when there is a better release

Re: [Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 10:14:16AM +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: Port galeon 1.2 to GTK2 and we'll talk about that.. Frankly, Galeon 1.3.x is really much better than 1.2.x, regarding usability.. Ohh so that's why it has less features and is hardly configurable. As someone else has mentioned

Re: [Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 10:28:22AM +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: galeon 1.2.x will not go in the distro.. Galeon is now complying with HIG.. If you want to configure it, use tools from GNOME control center.. That just stinks. For those of us who are *NOT* using GNOME. Mozilla is not nearly

Re: [Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ben Reser wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 10:14:16AM +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: Port galeon 1.2 to GTK2 and we'll talk about that.. Frankly, Galeon 1.3.x is really much better than 1.2.x, regarding usability.. Ohh so that's why it has less

Re: [Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frederic Crozat wrote: Galeon is now complying with HIG.. If you want to configure it, use tools from GNOME control center.. ... which is only accessible from menus when running GNOME ... can this be fixed? - -- |--Another happy

Re: [Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 11:47:59AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: NO, actually the reason you do not need to configure your proxy server in 7 different Gnome applications. Now you just do it in gnome-control-center (or gnome-network-preferences). That's great. But even the Galeon people don't

Re: [Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 10:55:28AM +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: Patch phoenix to use GRE.. When it will support GRE, phoenix will be allow to go in the distro, not before... Which GRE? There's the Cisco tunneling protocol (which I really don't know why a browser needs to know about). There's

Re: [Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Reinout van Schouwen
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Buchan Milne wrote: ... which is only accessible from menus when running GNOME ... can this be fixed? The logical thing to do then, IMHO, is to embed the GNOME proxy capplet into drakconf. Or if drakconf already offers a tool to set up a proxy, make it so that it stores

Re: [Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Ben Reser
On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 11:31:49AM +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: Gecko Runtime Environment.. Not going to happen. Phoenix uses a subset of Gecko. It's illogical to ship a browser that is intended to be a faster version of Mozilla with all of Mozilla's bloat. Plus GRE is the reason we have

Re: [Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Götz Waschk
Am Dienstag, 25. Februar 2003, 01:58:00 Uhr MET, schrieb Ben Reser: Shouldn't mean anything for Mozilla. 1.2.8 is compatable with the 1.3 version of Mozilla (which is also beta but hey I don't use it so what do I know about it)... I didn't say anything earlier because the 1.2.x series wasn't

Re: [Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frederic Crozat wrote: On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:04:39 +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: I'll check with our ergonomy guy.. I'm a little troubled to see GNOME entries in non GNOME environment.. I am a little troubled not to be able to change the fonts I

Re: [Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 09:07, Ben Reser wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 09:27:23AM +0100, fcrozat wrote: There is absolutely no real bugs in this bug report.. Reminder : bugzilla is for bug REPORTS, not for discussions.. Use cooker mailing list for that.. Actually it is a bug. You're

Re: [Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 01:58, Ben Reser wrote: ... As someone has already quoted earlier in the bugzilla discussion, from the Galeon news page: http://galeon.sourceforge.net/news/ The 1.3.x branch is a development branch and not designed to replace 1.2.x for the typical user who wants a

Re: [Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 16:08, Jack Coates wrote: as far as I'm concerned, this is the end of the argument -- shipping software before its own developers release it in a desktop-oriented distribution is the wrong move in my opinion. If the released version won't build the way that you want it

Re: [Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 2003-02-25 at 08:30, Adam Williamson wrote: ... What do you mean, before its own developers release it? Galeon has had three 1.3.x releases, 1.3.0, 1.3.1 and 1.3.2. They're on all the relevant pages at http://galeon.sourceforge.net, they're announced to the main release tracking news

Re: [Cooker] Re: [galeon] Galeon 1.3.2 usability in RC1

2003-02-25 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003 02:39:48 -0800, Ben Reser wrote: On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 11:31:49AM +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: Gecko Runtime Environment.. Not going to happen. Phoenix uses a subset of Gecko. It's illogical to ship a browser that is intended to be a faster version of Mozilla with