Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-11-03 Thread John Allen
On Friday 31 October 2003 5:42 pm, Luca Berra wrote: On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 05:29:24PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: BTW, it appears that autofs 4.1 has/will have direct mount support, including with maps in LDAP. Great! btw, is there a way of preventing dynamic to show on an icon on the

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-10-31 Thread Buchan Milne
Bryan Whitehead wrote: Buchan Milne wrote: Bryan Whitehead wrote: Thanks for the kick in the pants. Looks like autofs can do what I need. Looks like this feature slipped in during 9.0 (or 8.2) and I didn't notice. Now if only autofs would support direct mounts we'd be another step

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-10-31 Thread Luca Berra
On Fri, Oct 31, 2003 at 05:29:24PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: BTW, it appears that autofs 4.1 has/will have direct mount support, including with maps in LDAP. Great! btw, is there a way of preventing dynamic to show on an icon on the desktop for every automounted directory? Regards, L. -- Luca

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-12 Thread John Allen
On Friday 12 September 2003 00:57, Bryan Whitehead wrote: Buchan Milne wrote: [snipped] This config wants mail in /var/ to be mounted from a nfs server, but you can't have /var managed by autofs. So autofs will watch the mail directory directly. When a program enters/opens the directory

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-11 Thread Bryan Whitehead
Buchan Milne wrote: Bryan Whitehead wrote: Thanks for the kick in the pants. Looks like autofs can do what I need. Looks like this feature slipped in during 9.0 (or 8.2) and I didn't notice. Now if only autofs would support direct mounts we'd be another step closer to Solaris... ;) Could you

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-10 Thread Warly
Bryan Whitehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it's in contrib, there is an alternative in main = what's the problem? The problem is while I'm a Mandrake monkey and can handle the misisng package other SA's who just want a fully shipped distro don't want to have to 1) ask for it 2) look for

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-10 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Warly wrote: Bryan Whitehead [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But it's in contrib, there is an alternative in main = what's the problem? The problem is while I'm a Mandrake monkey and can handle the misisng package other SA's who just want a fully

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-10 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Mercredi 10 Septembre 2003 11:12, Warly a écrit : [...] am-utils, as said, stil live into contribs, but if some kind of popular vote ask for it back into main, so be it. And first you removed it, I reintroduce it in contrib myself... The story of an obsoletes application... :) -- Linux

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-10 Thread Simon Oosthoek
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 11:21:25AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bryan Whitehead wrote: Thanks for the kick in the pants. Looks like autofs can do what I need. Looks like this feature slipped in during 9.0 (or 8.2) and I didn't notice.

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-10 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Simon Oosthoek wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 11:21:25AM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Bryan Whitehead wrote: Thanks for the kick in the pants. Looks like autofs can do what I need. Looks like this feature slipped in during 9.0 (or 8.2) and I didn't

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-09 Thread Ben Reser
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 12:55:45PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: Packages in main are updated for security, and contribs are not. This is bad, since, to give a example, some packages like apache2 modules are in main, and others are in contribs. But, on mdk9.1, apache was updated, and only

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-08 Thread Bryan Whitehead
David Walser wrote: Bryan Whitehead wrote: Bryan Whitehead wrote: am-utils is a very much-needed package for Linux to integrate into big UNIX shops. NASA/JPL (at least in my section) is a big UNIX Shop. Wiothout am-utils we are pretty screwed... is there a reason this package was removed

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-08 Thread Bryan Whitehead
But it's in contrib, there is an alternative in main = what's the problem? The problem is while I'm a Mandrake monkey and can handle the misisng package other SA's who just want a fully shipped distro don't want to have to 1) ask for it 2) look for it 3) get it 4) install it. They want basic

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-08 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bryan Whitehead wrote: David Walser wrote: Bryan Whitehead wrote: Bryan Whitehead wrote: am-utils is a very much-needed package for Linux to integrate into big UNIX shops. NASA/JPL (at least in my section) is a big UNIX Shop. Wiothout

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-08 Thread Buchan Milne
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bryan Whitehead wrote: But it's in contrib, there is an alternative in main = what's the problem? The problem is while I'm a Mandrake monkey and can handle the misisng package other SA's who just want a fully shipped distro don't want to have

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-08 Thread Bryan Whitehead
Buchan Milne wrote: Bryan Whitehead wrote: David Walser wrote: Bryan Whitehead wrote: Bryan Whitehead wrote: am-utils is a very much-needed package for Linux to integrate into big UNIX shops. NASA/JPL (at least in my section) is a big UNIX Shop. Wiothout am-utils we are pretty screwed... is

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-08 Thread bgmilne
Buchan Milne wrote: Bryan Whitehead wrote: am-utils is a very much-needed package for Linux to integrate into big UNIX shops. NASA/JPL (at least in my section) is a big UNIX Shop. Wiothout am-utils we are pretty screwed... is there a reason this package was removed from 9.2 ? Has it just

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-08 Thread Bryan Whitehead
As you will see, the only entries in our LDAP automount maps are those we need all the time (/home/{users,groups,projects}) on most machines (the ones people need to be sure of, so we can modify the LDAP automount entries and be sure each machine will use the correct share on next access), I have

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-07 Thread Luca Berra
On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 01:14:59PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Well, if am-utils is better, it should replace autofs in main (autofs can go to contrib). But, AFAIK, there is no alternative for uucp, and packages in main (postfix) contain entries in the default config for it (thus you kind of

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-07 Thread Michael Scherer
On Sunday 07 September 2003 12:20, Luca Berra wrote: On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 01:14:59PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Well, if am-utils is better, it should replace autofs in main (autofs can go to contrib). But, AFAIK, there is no alternative for uucp, and packages in main (postfix) contain

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-07 Thread Michael Scherer
On Sunday 07 September 2003 03:37, Vincent Danen wrote: So, by your point above, we should have one of everything in main? Well, where's my better implementation of gkrellm-plugins (in contribs). Oh, well, just for kicks, let's throw a few others out there. Where's my alternative to zssh

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-07 Thread Luca Berra
On Sun, Sep 07, 2003 at 12:48:08PM +0200, Michael Scherer wrote: On Sunday 07 September 2003 12:20, Luca Berra wrote: On Sat, Sep 06, 2003 at 01:14:59PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: Well, if am-utils is better, it should replace autofs in main (autofs can go to contrib). But, AFAIK, there is no

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-07 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sun, 7 Sep 2003, Michael Scherer wrote: On Sunday 07 September 2003 03:37, Vincent Danen wrote: So, by your point above, we should have one of everything in main? Well, where's my better implementation of gkrellm-plugins (in contribs). Oh, well, just for kicks, let's throw a few

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-07 Thread Michael Scherer
On Sunday 07 September 2003 13:27, Buchan Milne wrote: On Sun, 7 Sep 2003, Michael Scherer wrote: we should first think what does having a package in main implies : Package in main are on cds. This is important, because it means that they can be installed without internet connection.

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-07 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Luca Berra : no, it is not needed, postfix works wonderfully with mailbox_command = which means that postfix local takes care of deliveries, it even works better than procmail with maildirs the above should be the default and procmail %post and %postun could invoke postconf

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-07 Thread Buchan Milne
On Sun, 7 Sep 2003, Guillaume Rousse wrote: Ainsi parlait Luca Berra : no, it is not needed, postfix works wonderfully with mailbox_command = which means that postfix local takes care of deliveries, it even works better than procmail with maildirs the above should be the default

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-07 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Buchan Milne : The changes to procmail would be more complex, since I assume we don't want procmail to require postfix, so it will need to run postfonf only if postfix is installed (to avoid an error) and run the postconf via triggers if postfix is installed after procmail. What

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-06 Thread Buchan Milne
On Fri, 5 Sep 2003, Vincent Danen wrote: On Fri Sep 05, 2003 at 08:08:52PM -0400, David Walser wrote: am-utils is a very much-needed package for Linux to integrate into big UNIX shops. NASA/JPL (at least in my section) is a big UNIX Shop. Wiothout am-utils we are pretty

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-06 Thread Vincent Danen
On Sat Sep 06, 2003 at 01:14:59PM +0200, Buchan Milne wrote: am-utils is a very much-needed package for Linux to integrate into big UNIX shops. NASA/JPL (at least in my section) is a big UNIX Shop. Wiothout am-utils we are pretty screwed... is there a reason this package

[Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-05 Thread David Walser
Bryan Whitehead wrote: Bryan Whitehead wrote: am-utils is a very much-needed package for Linux to integrate into big UNIX shops. NASA/JPL (at least in my section) is a big UNIX Shop. Wiothout am-utils we are pretty screwed... is there a reason this package was removed from 9.2 ? Has it

Re: [Cooker] Re: What happened to am-utils?

2003-09-05 Thread Vincent Danen
On Fri Sep 05, 2003 at 08:08:52PM -0400, David Walser wrote: am-utils is a very much-needed package for Linux to integrate into big UNIX shops. NASA/JPL (at least in my section) is a big UNIX Shop. Wiothout am-utils we are pretty screwed... is there a reason this package was