Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-19 Thread Ron Stodden
Eugenio Diaz wrote: > I don't really understand what you are trying to achieve here. That is obvious. It is my experience that a machine with no drives on ide0 or ide1 (this is BEFORE the stanza IDE remapping) and using the xosl boot manager will eventually collapse and become unuseable. This

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-19 Thread Eugenio Diaz
--- Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Probably a better way is to make a one-time global change, not stanza > changes, thus avoiding the need for a disk on IDE0 to bring up lilo > from and to hold the secondary boot loader. To do this insert the > lilo 'lock' global command into lilo

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-19 Thread Ron Stodden
Eugenio Diaz wrote: > > --- Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Questions: > > How do _you_ determine the appropriate append strings for the Promise > > channels from cat /proc/pci/? > > How do _you_ determine the appropriate append strings for the mobo > > IDE channels? > > > > Once I hav

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-19 Thread Eugenio Diaz
--- civileme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > 3. Setting DMA on some systems (and this happens on so few that we have > little data) simply does not work for one or more drives, and we have a > partition check that hangs the system. It might be related to a CDRW or to a > > Promise ATA/66 C

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-19 Thread Eugenio Diaz
--- Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Questions: > How do _you_ determine the appropriate append strings for the Promise > channels from cat /proc/pci/? > How do _you_ determine the appropriate append strings for the mobo > IDE channels? > > Once I have this information, I can experiment

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-19 Thread Greg Sarsons
Abit is nice and supplies the cable when you buy the motherboard. As for the hardware I selected it to run fast out of the box. As soon as cooker settles down a bit I will give it a try. The machine this hardware is on is my so called production machine (school machine). Greg Ron Stodden wrot

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-19 Thread Ron Stodden
civileme wrote: > > > Sorry about this, but the 7.2 kernel just does not see IDE2 or IDE3, > > which is where Promise lives. > > This applies to both the installer and the installed runtime. I > > don't know where your erroneous information might be coming from. > > It comes from actual, insta

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-19 Thread civileme
On Monday 19 February 2001 07:17, you wrote: > civileme wrote: > > OK let's begin by comparing apples to apples. > > > > Most IDE setups, including Promise, are correctly detected and set up by > > the installer and handled properly by the kernel. This includes ATA/100 > > or UDMA5. > > Sorry abo

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-18 Thread Ron Stodden
Charles A Edwards wrote: > I have an A7V which during installation hangs at Partition check: hde > > Using lspci -vv | less I entered the correct params at boot > linux ide2=0x8400 0x802, ide3=0x7800 0x7402 > Both ide2 and 3 are seen as sharing IRQ 10 and the the hds are properly > identified.

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-18 Thread Ron Stodden
civileme wrote: > Please note that this is a 66 disk on a 66-capable chipset. Using of course the 80-conductor ATA666/100 IDE cables? -- Regards, Ron. [au]

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-18 Thread Ron Stodden
civileme wrote: > > OK let's begin by comparing apples to apples. > > Most IDE setups, including Promise, are correctly detected and set up by the > installer and handled properly by the kernel. This includes ATA/100 or UDMA5. Sorry about this, but the 7.2 kernel just does not see IDE2 or IDE3

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-18 Thread Ron Stodden
Greg Sarsons wrote: > > KT7-Raid ... > > The board supports DMA/33 and Ultra DMA/66 on IDE1/2 and ata-100(or > UDMA100 if you like) on IDE3/4 using a HPT370 controller. The IBM > Deskstar Ultra ATA100 7200rpm drive is on ide3. > > I haven't had time to play around hdparm yet so this is what t

RE: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-18 Thread David Walluck
On Sun, 18 Feb 2001, Charles A Edwards wrote: > I have an A7V which during installation hangs at Partition check: hde > > Using lspci -vv | less I entered the correct params at boot > linux ide2=0x8400 0x802, ide3=0x7800 0x7402 > Both ide2 and 3 are seen as sharing IRQ 10 and the the hds are pr

RE: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-18 Thread Charles A Edwards
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of civileme > Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 11:45 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake! > > > OK let's begin by comp

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-18 Thread civileme
OK let's begin by comparing apples to apples. Most IDE setups, including Promise, are correctly detected and set up by the installer and handled properly by the kernel. This includes ATA/100 or UDMA5. Some folks have more IDE channels than are autoprobed. Drive i on 7.2 will never be autodet

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-18 Thread Greg Sarsons
I meant to also mention this drive is using udma5 Greg Sarsons wrote: > > KT7-Raid ... > > The board supports DMA/33 and Ultra DMA/66 on IDE1/2 and ata-100(or > UDMA100 if you like) on IDE3/4 using a HPT370 controller. The IBM > Deskstar Ultra ATA100 7200rpm drive is on ide3. > > I have

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-18 Thread civileme
On Saturday 17 February 2001 07:00, you wrote: > civileme wrote: > > How about doing this? Since you have 2.4 on a machine with this > > particular chip (we have NO examples) check the speed with hdparm and the > > settings. How much tuning has happened? What can you produce if you > > leave au

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-18 Thread Greg Sarsons
KT7-Raid ... The board supports DMA/33 and Ultra DMA/66 on IDE1/2 and ata-100(or UDMA100 if you like) on IDE3/4 using a HPT370 controller. The IBM Deskstar Ultra ATA100 7200rpm drive is on ide3. I haven't had time to play around hdparm yet so this is what the default settings are reporting.

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-18 Thread Ron Stodden
Greg Sarsons wrote: > > time for my 2 cents .. I'm using 7.2 out of the box with an Abit > KT7-Raid (UDMA 100 or ATA100 if you like) and an IBM Deskstar 30Gig HD. > The chipset for the mother board is via and I haven't had any problems Thanks. How many IDE channels (40 pin male plugs) are

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-17 Thread Ron Stodden
Eugenio Diaz wrote: > > Ron, you are confused. The problem I described in bug #525, is not about kernel > parameters sent with the lilo "append" string. It is about the kernel hanging > on a DMA timeout during the "partition check", and that occurs way *after* lilo > gave it the correct parameter

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-17 Thread Eugenio Diaz
--- Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > Promise should be taken out and shot!Their mass storage chip > should have taken over all 4 IDE channels at ATA100. And waste the mobo two channel IDE controller, that is perfectly fine to use with CDROMs. In fact it is ideal for CD-to-CDR on t

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-17 Thread Eugenio Diaz
--- Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eugenio Diaz wrote: > > > > Well, despite all that effort in documenting the problem, no action has > been > > taken to solve it. > > But action has been taken, in the ongoing development sense, but not > the field support sense. Maybe by the kernel

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-16 Thread Ron Stodden
civileme wrote: > > How about doing this? Since you have 2.4 on a machine with this particular > chip (we have NO examples) check the speed with hdparm and the settings. How > much tuning has happened? What can you produce if you leave autotune out and > try hdparm settings yourself? Which me

RE: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-16 Thread Charles A Edwards
Forever never goes beyond tomorrow. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of civileme > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 11:27 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake! > &

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-16 Thread civileme
On Friday 16 February 2001 05:58, you wrote: > Eugenio Diaz wrote: > > Well, despite all that effort in documenting the problem, no action has > > been taken to solve it. > > But action has been taken, in the ongoing development sense, but not > the field support sense. Maybe by the kernel tea

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-15 Thread Ron Stodden
Eugenio Diaz wrote: > > Well, despite all that effort in documenting the problem, no action has been > taken to solve it. But action has been taken, in the ongoing development sense, but not the field support sense. Maybe by the kernel team rather than Mandrake. For example I installed the la

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-15 Thread Eugenio Diaz
--- Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eugenio Diaz wrote: > > > > My effort in documenting the partition check hangs have been a total waste > of > > my time! > > > > Check Bug# 525 > > I have read all about bug #525 (thanks!) and fail to see what has > been a total waste of your time.

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-15 Thread Ron Stodden
Pixel wrote: > > Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I think it inescapable that 7.2 and Cooker (both tree (floppy images, > > etc) and isos) are reissued supporting ATA100 drives, since there are > > so many already in the market and 7.2 is the current Mandrake Linux. > > For the mom

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-14 Thread Ron Stodden
Eugenio Diaz wrote: > > My effort in documenting the partition check hangs have been a total waste of > my time! > > Check Bug# 525 I have read all about bug #525 (thanks!) and fail to see what has been a total waste of your time. Please? -- Regards, Ron. [au]

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-13 Thread Eugenio Diaz
My effort in documenting the partition check hangs have been a total waste of my time! Check Bug# 525 --- Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pixel, > > I tried to do a Cooker install with both the tree and target > partitions on aa IBM ATA100 disk drive accessed through the Promise > Mass

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-11 Thread Ron Stodden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Sorry, I am confused, > I have now two hard-drives, the first one is an ATA66 with windows 98, > and the second one is a SEAGATE ATA100 with Mandrake 7.2 runing fine. > I don't know if other hard-disk or mother-board (the mine is a WO"-R) > can have problems. It is a

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-11 Thread Ron Stodden
Pixel wrote: > > Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I think it inescapable that 7.2 and Cooker (both tree (floppy images, > > etc) and isos) are reissued supporting ATA100 drives, since there are > > so many already in the market and 7.2 is the current Mandrake Linux. > > For the mom

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-11 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Sunday 11 February 2001 23:41, Ron Stodden wrote: > Pixel wrote: > > Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I think it inescapable that 7.2 and Cooker (both tree (floppy images, > > > etc) and isos) are reissued supporting ATA100 drives, since there are > > > so many already in the marke

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-11 Thread Greg Sarsons
time for my 2 cents .. I'm using 7.2 out of the box with an Abit KT7-Raid (UDMA 100 or ATA100 if you like) and an IBM Deskstar 30Gig HD. The chipset for the mother board is via and I haven't had any problems Ron Stodden wrote: > > Pixel wrote: > > > > Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes

RE: Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-11 Thread falcaraz
d with the kernel 2.4, but it should be better supporting ATA100; I will try soon with the beta thas is comming. Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) - Mensaje Original - Remitente: Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fecha: Lunes, Febrero 12, 2001 0:41 am Asunto: Re: [Cooker] Very weak A

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-11 Thread Ron Stodden
Pixel wrote: > > Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I think it inescapable that 7.2 and Cooker (both tree (floppy images, > > etc) and isos) are reissued supporting ATA100 drives, since there are > > so many already in the market and 7.2 is the current Mandrake Linux. > > For the mom

Re: [Cooker] Very weak ATA100 support in Mandrake!

2001-02-11 Thread Pixel
Ron Stodden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I think it inescapable that 7.2 and Cooker (both tree (floppy images, > etc) and isos) are reissued supporting ATA100 drives, since there are > so many already in the market and 7.2 is the current Mandrake Linux. For the moment i don't care much, i'm us