Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-05-08 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Don Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > I used redhat before working for mandrake. Once I tried all. The system > > was completely fucked up. > > Have you tried it with 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 7.0, or 7.1? That's what we've been > using in our classroom setups for two years now, and it works f

RE: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-05-08 Thread Don Head
>> It's really sad to hear this. Red Hat, SuSE, Slackware, >> TurboLinux, they all have "Everything" or "Almost >> Everything" options. I'm curious why it's such a big >> deal for Mandrake. > > Have you tried that option? > > I used redhat before working for mandrake. Once I tried all. The sys

RE: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-05-08 Thread Don Head
>> Have you tried it with 6.0, 6.1, 6.2, 7.0, or 7.1? That's what we've been >> using in our classroom setups for two years now, and it works flawlessly >> (although Red Hat had some kickstart bugs around 6.1). > > As far as I remember, this must have been with 5.1 or 6.1. > > Note that maybe t

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-05-08 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The main problem is that it would need special testing to have this > feature work flawlessly, and we believe it's long work (time of full > installs...) and dirty (make special cases to remove the package which > create most problems), and moreo

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-05-08 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Tuesday 08 May 2001 17:10, Don Head wrote: > (Catching up on really old e-mail..) > > >> Many people are praying for a "all packages" button, > >> just excluding locales-xx, ispell-xx and so on, but > >> REALLY ALL. Newby has 30GB hard-disks, please let > >> them (and me!) install 2,5 GB of fre

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-05-08 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Don Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > That we'll never do. We already have tried, this leads > > to too much problems because of incompat packages. Our > > business is anyway not to fill up the hd by countless > > things. > > It's really sad to hear this. Red Hat, SuSE, Slackware, >

RE: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-05-08 Thread Don Head
(Catching up on really old e-mail..) >> Many people are praying for a "all packages" button, >> just excluding locales-xx, ispell-xx and so on, but >> REALLY ALL. Newby has 30GB hard-disks, please let >> them (and me!) install 2,5 GB of free software >> without any pain... > > That we'll never d

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-04-29 Thread Shalrath
> > [...] > > > > > - No flash plugin (and kdebase-nsplugins) installed by default on a > > > distro targetting newbies and the desktop.. is it that difficult to > > > understand that this package is a must for LM? > > > > i don't like proprietary stuff ;p > > me neither, but I must admit to getti

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-04-29 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach Stefan Hußfeldt am Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:43:19PM +0200: > On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 09:51:03PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: > > > No, it's not!!! No telnet-server is good (maybe), but why exclude the > > client? Not every server is telnet enabled, you know. > > Telnetclient is of cau

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-04-29 Thread Stefan Hußfeldt
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 09:51:03PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: > No, it's not!!! No telnet-server is good (maybe), but why exclude the > client? Not every server is telnet enabled, you know. Telnetclient is of cause usefull (for server testing: 119, 25, etc.). -- Und Tschüss. Stefan ### Ki

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-04-29 Thread Xavier Bertou
On Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 09:51:03PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: > So sprach Jose am Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:56:32AM +: > > No telnet by default is VERY GOOD, if your talking about newbies. Use ssh, I think > > it is installed by default. > > No, it's not!!! No telnet-server is good (maybe),

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-04-29 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Claudio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Many people are praying for a "all packages" button, just excluding > locales-xx, ispell-xx and so on, but REALLY ALL. Newby has 30GB hard-disks, > please let them (and me!) install 2,5 GB of free software without any pain... That we'll never do. W

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-04-29 Thread Alexander Skwar
So sprach Jose am Sun, Apr 29, 2001 at 10:56:32AM +: > No telnet by default is VERY GOOD, if your talking about newbies. Use ssh, I think > it is installed by default. No, it's not!!! No telnet-server is good (maybe), but why exclude the client? Not every server is telnet enabled, you know.

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-04-29 Thread Pixel
Jose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > - No telnet installed by default.. its easy to install but still.. > > No telnet by default is VERY GOOD, if your talking about newbies. Use ssh, I think > it is installed by default. as package "telnet" doesn't contain the telnet server, it's no big pb. an

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-04-29 Thread Jose
Pixel wrote: > Sarang Lakare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > > - No flash plugin (and kdebase-nsplugins) installed by default on a distro > > targetting newbies and the desktop.. is it that difficult to understand that > > this package is a must for LM? > > i don't like proprietary stuf

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-04-29 Thread Terrible Tom
On Sunday 29 April 2001 06:06, you wrote: > Sarang Lakare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > > - No flash plugin (and kdebase-nsplugins) installed by default on a > > distro targetting newbies and the desktop.. is it that difficult to > > understand that this package is a must for LM? > > i

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-04-29 Thread Pixel
Sarang Lakare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > - No flash plugin (and kdebase-nsplugins) installed by default on a distro > targetting newbies and the desktop.. is it that difficult to understand that > this package is a must for LM? i don't like proprietary stuff ;p > > - No telnet inst

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-04-28 Thread Sarang Lakare
>No offense, but where were you all during the Devel Stages? Don't complain >to the devel team when you weren't out there helping people test it and I have been complaining and complaining about the package selection since Beta 2 or Beta3.. there was plenty of time to rectify it.. so please don'

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-04-28 Thread Tim
> > Mandrake is taking a really good distro in 7.2 and making it worse by not > including things that users really want. Please provide a 8.01 with the > countless bugs fixed. > No offense, but where were you all during the Devel Stages? Don't complain to the devel team when you weren't out ther

Re: [Cooker] excellent! no kdebase-nsplugin installed!

2001-04-28 Thread Claudio
On Friday 27 April 2001 22:03, Sarang Lakare wrote: [...] > I had selected "internet station", "multimedia station" and all those > things.. then why arnt't these packages installed??? How do you expect a > newbie to figure out what to install to get flash working!! In 7.2 I > remember flash was w