Re: [coreboot] BadBIOS Thoughts

2013-11-20 Thread Oliver Schinagl
On 20-11-13 07:11, mrnuke wrote: On 11/18/2013 08:36 AM, Patrick Georgi wrote: For someone trying to pull this off, a good first step might be to inquire with vendors if they have long term supported AMD models, what long term means for them, and how to identify these models. Then, when the

Re: [coreboot] BadBIOS Thoughts

2013-11-20 Thread Patrick Georgi
Am Mittwoch, den 20.11.2013, 00:11 -0600 schrieb mrnuke: Guys! Stop this nonsense. It didn't work in the past, it doesn't work now, and it won't work in the future. Once you buy that laptop, Phoenix/AMI/etc gets their money, Microsoft gets their money, Norton gets their money... you get the

[coreboot] Re : Re: BadBIOS Thoughts

2013-11-20 Thread echelon
I vote for this!.. I for one, I will be ready to burn even more than 1k€, to get an AMD based chromebook. On the other hand we should be realistic : what if Google has agreements with Intel, forbiding them to even consider the use of AMD chipsets?.. Florentin - Mail d'origine - De:

Re: [coreboot] BadBIOS Thoughts

2013-11-20 Thread mrnuke
On 11/20/2013 03:29 AM, Patrick Georgi wrote: Microsoft money gets returned (even if it's just $30). Norton paid money to get installed (it's a 30 days demo for a reason). You won't get around the IBV fees with this model, I grant that. How exactly do you get the software fees back without

Re: [coreboot] Re : Re: BadBIOS Thoughts

2013-11-20 Thread mrnuke
On 11/20/2013 03:39 AM, eche...@free.fr wrote: I vote for this!.. I for one, I will be ready to burn even more than 1k€, to get an AMD based chromebook. On the other hand we should be realistic : what if Google has agreements with Intel, forbiding them to even consider the use of AMD

Re: [coreboot] BadBIOS Thoughts

2013-11-20 Thread mrnuke
On 11/20/2013 03:19 AM, Oliver Schinagl wrote: What happened to decline the EULA and demand your money back? Nobody does that anymore? Did YOU ever do it? -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

[coreboot] Re : Re: Re : Re: BadBIOS Thoughts

2013-11-20 Thread echelon
- Mail d'origine - De: mrnuke mr.nuke...@gmail.com À: coreboot@coreboot.org Envoyé: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:47:56 +0100 (CET) Objet: Re: [coreboot] Re : Re: BadBIOS Thoughts ... Intel vs Google. Remember, Google has enough cash to buy Intel. ... Huh?!.. -- coreboot mailing list:

Re: [coreboot] Re : Re: BadBIOS Thoughts

2013-11-20 Thread John Lewis
On 20/11/13 09:47, mrnuke wrote: Intel got nailed pretty hard a couple of years for this. There are laws against this in both the US and Europe. And then you're talking about Intel vs Google. Remember, Google has enough cash to buy Intel. Alex Perhaps if Google really do care about openness

[coreboot] Compilation problem

2013-11-20 Thread Tcendrovskii Vladislav
Hello everyone! I have compilation problem If build with gcc $ make GENbuild.h CC romstage.inc src/mainboard/gigabyte/ma785gmt/romstage.c: In function 'cache_as_ram_main': src/mainboard/gigabyte/ma785gmt/romstage.c:220:1: error: bp cannot be used in asm here } ^

Re: [coreboot] BadBIOS Thoughts

2013-11-20 Thread Oliver Schinagl
On 20-11-13 10:48, mrnuke wrote: On 11/20/2013 03:19 AM, Oliver Schinagl wrote: What happened to decline the EULA and demand your money back? Nobody does that anymore? Did YOU ever do it? I haven't bought (nor used at home) a windows license in well over 20? ... never. The only license

Re: [coreboot] Compilation problem

2013-11-20 Thread Patrick Georgi
Am 20.11.2013 15:33, schrieb Tcendrovskii Vladislav: src/mainboard/gigabyte/ma785gmt/romstage.c:220:1: error: bp cannot be used in asm here I've tried gcc-4.4, gcc-4.8 This is a known issue with gcc-4.8 and 4.9. 4.4 should work - or at least present a different issue, but certainly not this

Re: [coreboot] BadBIOS Thoughts

2013-11-20 Thread ron minnich
Watching this discussion is like watching a puppy chase its tail :-) Minus the fact that we've seen this discussion before, and we've seen it go nowhere before, just as it is now :-( Except that it's spiraling around the drain even faster than usual :-( I understand people do not find the

[coreboot] Offer of membership to Coreboot into Software Freedom Conservancy, Inc.

2013-11-20 Thread Bradley M. Kuhn
TL;DR: Coreboot applied to the Conservancy and has been offered membership. The FSA template should be reviewed by all interested parties, and we need your help to draft three specific sections, which are discussed in detail at the bottom of this email. Full Details: I am

Re: [coreboot] Compilation problem

2013-11-20 Thread Tcendrovskii Vladislav
Patrick Georgi wrote: Am 20.11.2013 15:33, schrieb Tcendrovskii Vladislav: src/mainboard/gigabyte/ma785gmt/romstage.c:220:1: error: bp cannot be used in asm here I've tried gcc-4.4, gcc-4.8 This is a known issue with gcc-4.8 and 4.9. 4.4 should work - or at least present a different issue,

Re: [coreboot] Re : Re: BadBIOS Thoughts

2013-11-20 Thread ron minnich
We should give Intel come credit. They're trying to do the right thing in a way they feel is compatible with their business. You've seen the FSP commits from Sage in the last few days. That work was only possible because Intel helped. ron -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org

Re: [coreboot] Compilation problem

2013-11-20 Thread Patrick Georgi
Am 20.11.2013 17:59, schrieb Tcendrovskii Vladislav: OPTION option_table.h /bin/sh: --version: команда не найдена /bin/sh: --version: команда не найдена /bin/sh: --version: команда не найдена GEN build.h CC romstage.inc make: MMD: Команда не найдена POST romstage.inc sed: невозможно прочитать

Re: [coreboot] iasl compiler/disassembler getting confused by Scope operator

2013-11-20 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 05:08:43PM +, Moore, Robert wrote: We've made some recent changes in this area. Please try iasl version 20131115. Thanks, Bob I tried with latest git: commit 176efde76486dc037bb34345685d060c97bdd0d3 Author: Robert Moore robert.mo...@intel.com Date: Fri Nov 15

Re: [coreboot] iasl compiler/disassembler getting confused by Scope operator

2013-11-20 Thread Moore, Robert
We've made some recent changes in this area. Please try iasl version 20131115. Thanks, Bob -Original Message- From: Michael S. Tsirkin [mailto:m...@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 8:59 AM To: Moore, Robert Cc: Kevin O'Connor; Idwer Vollering; seab...@seabios.org;

Re: [coreboot] iasl compiler/disassembler getting confused by Scope operator

2013-11-20 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
There's no machine, it's just SSDT and DSDT that I wrote. Is there not enough information in the data I sent? Something's unclear? On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 05:25:39PM +, Moore, Robert wrote: If there are still issues, please send the acpidump for the machine. -Original Message-

Re: [coreboot] iasl compiler/disassembler getting confused by Scope operator

2013-11-20 Thread Moore, Robert
If there are still issues, please send the acpidump for the machine. -Original Message- From: Moore, Robert Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:09 AM To: 'Michael S. Tsirkin' Cc: Kevin O'Connor; Idwer Vollering; seab...@seabios.org; Tang, Feng; coreboot@coreboot.org Subject: Re:

Re: [coreboot] iasl compiler/disassembler getting confused by Scope operator

2013-11-20 Thread Moore, Robert
OK, can you just send the files? thanks -Original Message- From: Michael S. Tsirkin [mailto:m...@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:32 AM To: Moore, Robert Cc: Kevin O'Connor; Idwer Vollering; seab...@seabios.org; Tang, Feng; coreboot@coreboot.org Subject: Re: iasl

Re: [coreboot] iasl compiler/disassembler getting confused by Scope operator

2013-11-20 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 05:38:53PM +, Moore, Robert wrote: OK, can you just send the files? thanks Here goes (3 files attached). Just run the commands in README to see the problem: iasl dsdt.dsl iasl ssdt.dsl iasl -e DSDT.aml SSDT.aml iasl SSDT.dsl #above fails to compile iasl dsdt.dsl

Re: [coreboot] iasl compiler/disassembler getting confused by Scope operator

2013-11-20 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
Ping. any news? On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 06:19:20AM +, Moore, Robert wrote: I am out this week, will take a look when I get back. Bob -Original Message- From: Michael S. Tsirkin [mailto:m...@redhat.com] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:18 AM To: Moore, Robert Cc: Kevin

Re: [coreboot] iasl compiler/disassembler getting confused by Scope operator

2013-11-20 Thread Moore, Robert
OK, I'm able to see the problem. I'll take a look today. -Original Message- From: Michael S. Tsirkin [mailto:m...@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:09 AM To: Moore, Robert Cc: Kevin O'Connor; Idwer Vollering; seab...@seabios.org; Tang, Feng; coreboot@coreboot.org

Re: [coreboot] BadBIOS Thoughts

2013-11-20 Thread Alex G.
On 11/20/2013 09:23 AM, ron minnich wrote: I've got a student coming in January and he's going to work on ChromeOS on AMD CPUs, starting with the Gizmo. If, at that time, someone has a suggestion for an AMD laptop which might be suitable, let me know. Would you care to elaborate on that? As

Re: [coreboot] iasl compiler/disassembler getting confused by Scope operator

2013-11-20 Thread Michael S. Tsirkin
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 05:25:39PM +, Moore, Robert wrote: If there are still issues, please send the acpidump for the machine. Maybe you want SSDT.dsl and DSDT.dsl as attachments and not inline? -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org

Re: [coreboot] BadBIOS Thoughts

2013-11-20 Thread Alex G.
On 11/20/2013 08:57 AM, Oliver Schinagl wrote: On 20-11-13 10:48, mrnuke wrote: On 11/20/2013 03:19 AM, Oliver Schinagl wrote: What happened to decline the EULA and demand your money back? Nobody does that anymore? Did YOU ever do it? I haven't bought (nor used at home) a windows

Re: [coreboot] iasl compiler/disassembler getting confused by Scope operator

2013-11-20 Thread Moore, Robert
Yes, I got the files. -Original Message- From: Michael S. Tsirkin [mailto:m...@redhat.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 9:33 AM To: Moore, Robert Cc: Kevin O'Connor; Idwer Vollering; seab...@seabios.org; Tang, Feng; coreboot@coreboot.org Subject: Re: iasl

Re: [coreboot] Compilation problem

2013-11-20 Thread Gelip
Version GCC 4.7.3 working OK on oldstable Debian 6.0.5 with make crossgcc.attachment: make_crossgcc_debian_6.0.5.png-- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] Re : Re: BadBIOS Thoughts

2013-11-20 Thread Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
Am 20.11.2013 18:17 schrieb ron minnich: We should give Intel come credit. They're trying to do the right thing in a way they feel is compatible with their business. You've seen the FSP commits from Sage in the last few days. That work was only possible because Intel helped. Agreed. However,

Re: [coreboot] Re : Re: BadBIOS Thoughts

2013-11-20 Thread mrnuke
On 11/20/2013 11:17 AM, ron minnich wrote: We should give Intel come credit. They're trying to do the *profitable* thing *for* their business. There, I fixed it for you. -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] iasl compiler/disassembler getting confused by Scope operator

2013-11-20 Thread Moore, Robert
It appears that a missing (unresolved) target for a Scope operator does not cause the generation of an External() declaration in the disassembly. In other words, the support simply does not exist. I'm still investigating the fix. Bob -Original Message- From: Michael S. Tsirkin

[coreboot] Petition to Google: Please produce a midrange Chromebook

2013-11-20 Thread mrnuke
We, the coreboot community, and those passionate about Free and Open Source Software are passionate about more than just openess in software, but also openess in hardware. We view the Chromebooks as a step in the direction we've worked for over a decade to take. We would like to see a chromebook

Re: [coreboot] Compilation problem

2013-11-20 Thread Tcendrovskii Vladislav
Patrick Georgi wrote: Am 20.11.2013 17:59, schrieb Tcendrovskii Vladislav: OPTION option_table.h /bin/sh: --version: команда не найдена /bin/sh: --version: команда не найдена /bin/sh: --version: команда не найдена GEN build.h CC romstage.inc make: MMD: Команда не найдена POST romstage.inc sed:

Re: [coreboot] iasl compiler/disassembler getting confused by Scope operator

2013-11-20 Thread Moore, Robert
The support exists, but is not working properly in this case. -Original Message- From: Moore, Robert Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 12:14 PM To: 'Michael S. Tsirkin' Cc: Kevin O'Connor; Idwer Vollering; seab...@seabios.org; Tang, Feng; coreboot@coreboot.org; Zheng, Lv; Box,

[coreboot] An Open Source Phone That’s Completely Unlocked, Hardware Too

2013-11-20 Thread Iurie
http://www.fastcolabs.com/3021652/an-open-source-phone-thats-completely-unlocked-hardware-too -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org http://www.coreboot.org/mailman/listinfo/coreboot

Re: [coreboot] Petition to Google: Please produce a midrange Chromebook

2013-11-20 Thread ron minnich
Alex, you are of course free to submit such a petition. And, anyone who wishes can sign it. I've received an off-list request from one of our other enthusiasts (i.e. not a company or from a company) to remind you that you are not in a position to speak for the coreboot community. Possibly you

[coreboot] Intel SandyBridge Xeon support C600 chip-sets

2013-11-20 Thread FireIcer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Any further updates on Intel contributions to the source tree regarding the sandybridge arch. particularly the C600 chip-set for the current Dual Xeon boards. Seen as Supermicro mainly has the monopoly on these type of high end boards now coreboot

Re: [coreboot] Petition to Google: Please produce a midrange Chromebook

2013-11-20 Thread Alex G.
On 11/20/2013 10:13 PM, ron minnich wrote: Alex, you are of course free to submit such a petition. And, anyone who wishes can sign it. I've received an off-list request from one of our other enthusiasts (i.e. not a company or from a company) to remind you that you are not in a position to