Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Visiting Tyrone and County Donegal in March to research Ancestors

2020-02-26 Thread Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList
Patrick, You will need to give us some details on which Hagertys and O'Donnells are yours. These are all Hagerty-O'Donnell marriages in Donegal, none came up in Tyrone: Action Source Surname First Name Year County View Civil Marriage Hegarty Edward 1864 Co. Donegal View Church Marriage Hegarty T

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] County Tyrone Tour

2020-02-26 Thread Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList
Hi Katherine, Have you already done your family history, or do you need to research it before you arrive? Boyd https://www.westulstergenealogy.com/ https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/ http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/ On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 15:35, Bonnie Jordan via

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Hood and Fulton families of Newtownstewart

2019-11-05 Thread Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList
Hi Bruce, I am assuming that Samuel Hood was connected to the Hoods who owned the large department store in Newtownstewart and is therefore a well known and relatively wealthy branch of the Hoods. Back in 2016, I researched the "minor" branches of Hoods from the surrounding area, specifically Rob

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Black and Hillman

2019-03-29 Thread Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList
Hi Bill, Unfortunately there are at least six James Blacks living in Tyrone in the Griffiths Valuation of 1859, which records every head of household. This means you need some more clues. There will be no civil birth for Alexander, which would be a clincher as Alexander is a much less common nam

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Help needed marriage of Patrick Duffin, 1838, Donaghenry

2019-03-25 Thread Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList
Patrick McQuinn and Ann Duffin are married . And Patrick Duffin and Francis McWigan are witnesses. And McWigan is definitely the same as McQuigan. As McQuinn might be too. Couldn't not try to help a Peggy Gordon even if she is not my darling. B On Mon, 25 Mar 2019, 02:33 Peggy Gordon via CoTy

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Henderson Family Notes, Cos. Tyrone, Donegal & Londonderry

2019-02-22 Thread Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList
Apposite timing, Len, I am just working on a Henderson feasibility study and searching newspapers is never a first priority for that as it is so difficult to extract each morsel. Just one quibble with all those "Esquires", I doubt my dirt poor farmers in Carnteel are going to feature large! B

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneList need help

2019-02-13 Thread Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList
Christine, I am assuming both sets married in England. Do you have their marriage certs? We need to know the names of the fathers. Even then, it will be very difficult without something more to go on than Tyrone because there are no Civil Births before 1864. But at least a name of the father,

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Using a researcher

2018-12-03 Thread Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList
Hi Margaret, I am a "researcher" currently working on a project very similar to the one you describe. And after weeks of research, I have not found that magical "smoking gun" which you seem to desire. Thankfully, I am not being expected to do so and I made that clear at the start when I offered

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] William IRWIN

2018-12-03 Thread Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList
Gr. "That is because most Irwins were PROTESTANT ( not Catholic) but not all." On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, 14:37 Boyd Gray Hi David, > > I am currently researching the Irwins of Claremore, Parish of Clogher, > County Tyrone, who also emigrated to Ontario. But since they

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] William IRWIN

2018-12-02 Thread Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList
Hi David, I am currently researching the Irwins of Claremore, Parish of Clogher, County Tyrone, who also emigrated to Ontario. But since they came from Clogher, that means they are NOT your Irwins. Except for the fact that we are not 100% sure our Irwins did come from Clogher and you do not seem

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Knox and Patton Families: Clady Presbyterian Church, Ardstraw Parish Marriages 1845-68

2018-08-11 Thread Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList
Hi Marsha, Apologies for not responding sooner but I only just noticed this thread. I have researched both the Knox family of Glentimon and the Patton family of Seein extensively for two Americans who will be "cousins" of yours and I am sure they will be happy to share when I contact them. Both

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 215, Issue 1

2018-07-17 Thread Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList
nse. I would love to visit this area when I come > back to Ireland. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 17, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Boyd Gray wrote: > > Hi Linda, > > I have been researching in Ireland for 18 years now and consider myself > lucky if I can trace my folks back t

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 216, Issue 1

2018-07-16 Thread Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList
edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CoTyroneList digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 215, Issue 1 > (patiandbu...@verizon.net) > 2. Re: CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 215, Issue 1 (Boyd Gray) >

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 215, Issue 1

2018-07-16 Thread Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList
Tee hee born 1850, no wonder I could not find him. He was hardly "a child" when he emigrated in 1880!! So, here is his Philly death cert: Name: Rev James Trainor Gender: Male Race: White Age: 59 Birth Date: 1856 Birth Place: Ireland Death Date: 18 Jan 1916 Death Place: Philadelphia, Philadel

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 215, Issue 1

2018-07-16 Thread Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList
Coming up empty here, Patricia. I cannot find any such birth registered in Omagh Reg Dist and I cannot find James in the 1900 or 1910 US Fed Census, to see what details he gives, nor in Philly deaths, which are usually so helpful. Do you have any more details on him. Names of parents? Death dat

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] The Irish Origins of McCain Frozen Potato Chips

2018-07-10 Thread Boyd Gray
S, the frozen chip people came from Castlefin? https://www.westulstergenealogy.com/ https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/ http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/ On 10 July 2018 at 13:39, James McKane wrote: > Thanks, Len, for a GREAT piece of info on my very distant cou

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Improving Searches on CTI - RESPONSE REQUIRED

2018-07-06 Thread Boyd Gray
Jim, On balance, I would say it is not worthwhile. Yes, it is very useful, almost essential, for big databases such as the TABs. And I would dearly love someone to do it for Catholic Parish Records!! But the amount of work required in order to do it for the multifarious sources in CTI is just n

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Function - Search ALL Tithe Applotment Books

2018-06-12 Thread Boyd Gray
This is excellent, Jim!! I was researching Haddens of the area around Augnacloy for a lady on here a few days ago and, as usual, the "normal" TAB websites at the National Archives and FamilySearch gave NO TAB records for Tyrone. So, as always, it was off to CTI - but to find them there, I needed

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Australian family link

2018-06-10 Thread Boyd Gray
Hi Rachel, There is not a shadow of a doubt that these are your people. Lucinda/Lucy is such an unusual name that there will not be two of them called Haddon, another unusual name. And Ochnaclan is definitely Aughnacloy. However, it is unfortunate that you cut the column titles off the immigrat

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Booth Family

2018-06-08 Thread Boyd Gray
Hi Lesley, First a quick but very important correction. Your great grandparents, Thomas Booth and Jane Gilchrist, did NOT marry in Camus-juxta-Mourne church. That is a Church of Ireland church. They married in First Strabane Presbyterian church, as per the marriage cert. Have a closer look. T

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Griffith's Valuation Online

2018-05-23 Thread Boyd Gray
Hi Len, A small point. As you say, the TABs are essential for researching the previous generation and the only place to find them for Tyrone is at CTI, where you have transcribed them. And they are essential viewing IF you know which parish to research. However, I am often searching for a famil

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Hackett's of County Tyrone

2018-05-22 Thread Boyd Gray
Hi Carol, There are more Hacketts than I would have thought in Tyrone, and almost no records back in the 1820s. I was just looking for similar names and would suggest these folks from the Parish of Errigal Keerogue, near Dungannon: Index to Tithe Applotment Books for Errigal Keeroque Parish, Co.

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] McWilliams family Aughnacloy

2018-05-07 Thread Boyd Gray
Hi Barrie: Taken from A Topical Dictionary of Ireland, 1837, and found here: http://www.libraryireland.com/topog/A/Aughaloo-Dungannon-Tyrone.php .. Cottage Hill is the country seat of the Moore family of the Parish of Aghaloo in County Tyrone, just north east of the small town of A

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Matilda Jane Dunbar Co Tyrone

2018-04-29 Thread Boyd Gray
Hi Alex, Well, to start with, Matilda cannot be born in 1859 and get married in 1867. Aged 8? First we need to sort out who is who. Okay, so let's assume that you have the right marriage and the birth is spurious, this is her: Civil Marriage Record Date of Marriage: 09-May-1867 Parish / Distri

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] KILLYWOOLAGHAN

2018-04-29 Thread Boyd Gray
Hi Fiona, Reps usually does mean the person died and the property awaiting settlement. I checked for a will but there was none. No children born to Samuel Woolaghan at RootsIreland anywhere in Ireland. RI only has two Woolaghan births in Tyrone, both early 19th century and at Sion Mills. No mar

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] REID & STINSON OF DUNAGANNON IRELAND

2018-01-27 Thread Boyd Gray
What a crafty little workaround, Dave!! I had no idea one could do that. Just tried it and it works. As well as simply browsing, and yes, perhaps hitting someone else you know from that area, it could also be used for the very occasional image which is actually wrong. It has only happened to me

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] REID & STINSON OF DUNAGANNON IRELAND

2018-01-26 Thread Boyd Gray
Hi Bob, Dave is right, most of this is online and easily accessible. And I assume he is working on the principle, give a man a fish and he eats for one day, give him a fishing rod and he eats forever. However, I can never resist an opportunity to show off, so.. These are all children born

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Replying to a Posting on the LIst

2018-01-24 Thread Boyd Gray
Hi Jim, Is it not possible to make the reply default to the list rather than the poster's private address? That way the original poster still gets the reply but all the rest of us will see any future correspondence and perhaps learn from it. The problem is, many people (me being top of the list

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Extraordinary Outrage near Donemana, Donagheady Parish Co. Tyrone 1893: House levelled at Aghafad

2018-01-22 Thread Boyd Gray
Hi Len, Been following this harrowing tale with some interest. Wondering what poor Catherine might have done wrong to merit such a cruel fate. Had she simply not been able to pay her rent or had she upset the Hugheys for some other reason? I did consider doing some research but did not think I

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Strabane & West Ulster In The 1800s; Selections from The Strabane Morning Post

2017-12-26 Thread Boyd Gray
What's the question, Jim? This is probably THE best book written about west Ulster in the 19th century. Let me explain why. 1. It is made up almost entirely of articles from the Strabane Morning Post so, no interpretation, all primary sources, yours to analyse and consider just as people at the

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Beatty visiting from US

2017-09-10 Thread Boyd Gray
Top class, Dave! Does it give a better location than "Cookstown"? A townland, perhaps? I cannot see wealthy folks living in a town with all its attendant diseases. Chuck and his family need somewhere better than Cookstown to visit. I tried searching the TABs and the GV for Derryloran Beattys a

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] McSorleys of Tyrone

2017-08-25 Thread Boyd Gray
Hi Andy, Apols for stating what might be ther obvious but the civil registration of births did not begin in Ireland til 1864 so you will never find the births of your gggps. And church records of baptisms will depend very much on the church but even there, you really only have a 50/50 chance of f

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] ABERCORN PAPERS HELD by DERRY Family History Centre

2017-08-08 Thread Boyd Gray
Hope this clarifies the issue. > > Jim > > > Jim McKane > South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario > > On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Boyd Gray wrote: > >> Hi Folks, >> >> You will probably all be aware that the LDS aare not going to be sending >> out any more

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] ABERCORN PAPERS HELD by DERRY Family History Centre

2017-08-08 Thread Boyd Gray
of > Deeds films are digitized and available on same site. No grantee index so > you really have to dig into the land indices. Still, it seems to be the > best treasure trove of new info I had in a while. Will keep me busy for > some time. > > Peter Kincaid > > > On Tuesday,

[CoTyroneMailingList] ABERCORN PAPERS HELD by DERRY Family History Centre

2017-08-08 Thread Boyd Gray
Hi Folks, You will probably all be aware that the LDS aare not going to be sending out any more microfilms to their Family History Centres as of the end of this month. They say that all their records will soon be digitised so the microfilms are redundant. I doubt this is precisely true and we wi

[CoTyroneMailingList] Fwd: Kilskeery Parish

2017-08-07 Thread Boyd Gray
Hi Rick, Before I make any suggestions, may I clarify what it is that you need? Finding extant "cousins" is never easy because the databases do not exist. Even the old fashioned telephone directory is rarely of use now because so many people only use mobile phones and do not have a land line and

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Kilskeery Parish

2017-08-07 Thread Boyd Gray
Hi Rick, Before I make any suggestions, may I clarify what it is that you need? Finding extant "cousins" is never easy because the databases do not exist. Even the old fashioned telephone directory is rarely of use now because so many people only use mobile phones and do not have a land line and

Re: [CoTyroneIreland] Follow up to 'How do I access these records, please?'

2017-06-25 Thread Boyd Gray
Hi Peggy, Somewhat against my better judgement I have been tempted to become drawn into this thorny little issue of why it is not easy to access PRONI records, as it is a topic which has come up before and, perhaps with the addition of the word PRONI to the title, this thread will be seen by those

[CoTyroneIreland] Fwd: Bell and Mckinney

2017-06-11 Thread Boyd Gray
> Sorry about that. Of course the date is 1832,the two families got together > when Alexander married Mary Ann McKinney in kildress in JAN 1855. > > Thank you for getting back to me > > Bernadine > > > -- > *From:* Boyd Gray >

Re: [CoTyroneIreland] Susanna PATTERSON daughter of Robert of Strabane / FINLEY

2017-04-18 Thread Boyd Gray
e"... gosh I haven't heard that quote for many years!! > > Jim McKane > South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario > > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Boyd Gray wrote: > >> These are all fascinating histories, Teena and I wish one of them >> belonged to my tree

Re: [CoTyroneIreland] Susanna PATTERSON daughter of Robert of Strabane / FINLEY

2017-04-18 Thread Boyd Gray
These are all fascinating histories, Teena and I wish one of them belonged to my tree. Oh to know in so much detail what happened to people when they disappeared into America. We all have lost dozens if not hundreds in that way. However, I am often perplexed by the placenames given in these fami

Re: [CoTyroneIreland] CoTyroneIreland.com - New Content - Who are These People - Johnson/Johnston?? (nee Thompson??) & Her Son

2017-04-18 Thread Boyd Gray
Pure speculation, Jim, based on a Johnson/Thompson marriage registered at Omagh within ten years of 1900, which seemed a reasonable date to guess for the marriage of the woman in the pic and the age of the son. Civil Marriage Record Date of Marriage: 21-May-1908 Parish / District: OMAGH County: TY