Well, I don't know how many people "very few" is, but I do know, that as an
alternative to MS-Exchange, IMAP server storage is finding more and more use
amoung my clients and clients of those I network with.
Many companies are requiring their servers configured in a way to capture
ALL outgoing mai
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
03/10/03
at 11:44 PM, David Ehle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
>> Mitch \(WebCob\) writes:
>>
>> > To make a statement like this one would assume there is such a survey? Or is
>> > it an anecdotal assumption. I'm not arguing,
On Monday, Mar 10, 2003, at 22:01 US/Central, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Mitch \(WebCob\) writes:
To make a statement like this one would assume there is such a
survey? Or is
it an anecdotal assumption. I'm not arguing, as I have no basis to,
but I
would say that dismissing the larger volume users
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Mitch \(WebCob\) writes:
>
> > To make a statement like this one would assume there is such a survey? Or is
> > it an anecdotal assumption. I'm not arguing, as I have no basis to, but I
> > would say that dismissing the larger volume users concerns
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/10/03
at 11:01 PM, Sam Varshavchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Mitch \(WebCob\) writes:
>> To make a statement like this one would assume there is such a survey? Or is
>> it an anecdotal assumption. I'm not arguing, as I have no basis to, but I
>> would say that d
Mitch \(WebCob\) writes:
To make a statement like this one would assume there is such a survey? Or is
it an anecdotal assumption. I'm not arguing, as I have no basis to, but I
would say that dismissing the larger volume users concerns PREVENTS courier
"Larger volume users" means, in most cases, us
>You could, I suppose, fix things up so that NEXTUID is rewritten in place;
>and just append new messages when doing a copy. However, locking - in fact
>- is optional, so this will break if locking is turned off.
Which is significant I guess particularly if you get to the point where you
are usin
Sam Varshavchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Håvard Lygre writes:
>
>> This fix is very crude, all it does is check for NULLs before calling
>
> Your patch is broken.
>
> $ patch --dry-run -p0 patching file authmysqllib.c
> patch: malformed patch at line 89:
OK, I'll try again - same patch
Jon Nelson writes:
> Rather than solve the symptom, can we discuss perhaps "better" ways of
> handling the UID-ness of a maildir?
Not possible, unless you want to give something else up.
Can you elaborate on this? Why not use a gdbm (if one is already using
I've seen gdbm files get corrupted, whe
Håvard Lygre writes:
This fix is very crude, all it does is check for NULLs before calling
Your patch is broken.
$ patch --dry-run -p0
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On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Jon Nelson writes:
>
> >> The IMAP UIDPLUS extension. A UID needs to be assigned to each message in
> >> the destination folder.
> >
> > Yeah, I understood that. What I don't understand is why the uid db
> > needs to be *rebuilt* (rather than appe
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/10/03
at 05:34 PM, Sam Varshavchik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Jim Trigg writes:
>> automake1.5 and autoconf2.53 being the last buildable ports. Courier
>> 0.41 appears to require automake 1.6 and autoconf 2.54.
>autoconf and automake are only required to build
My understanding is that "moves" are normally implemented by adding a
hardlink to the same inode, and then removing the old one (IF the
destination is on the same file system). Otherwise, it works as a copy and
unlink chained together,
NEW IDEA:
Ok... so what about this then...
A directory can
At 23:01 06/03/2003, you wrote:
Hello All
I have Courier ESMTP - IMAP Server
IMAP and ESMTP both go over SSL
my ESMTPSSL port is 465
The problem occurs when I try sending mail using Outlook, and Mozilla mail
clients (Outlook Express works fine) I get "The operation timed out waiting
for response
I updated the port to Courier-0.40.2 so I could get the newer maildrop
that supported the quota warning message. It builds, but install
doesn't work. I just manually copied the maildrop executable manually
and didn't install anything else. I haven't tried to fix the install
portion. Maybe t
But there is a very good reason James.
Don't get me wrong - I don't consider changing or violating an RFC a light
thing, but there are many good cases made all the time... Consider couriers
8 bit warning messages... I've not met (personally) the person who hasn't
had some user complain because mes
Not to throw gas on the fire, but... Why not?
Can't courier do a rename while moving the file? (Isn't that exactly
the concept of a move? ...in Unices anyway, and typically any other OS
too?) It has to come up with the new UID anyway, why not just do so
before the move is done? -- Or at worst,
I'm sure someone can correct me, but I think the ID is currently based on
the system time and the inode number of the file or something like that -
which forces uniqueness even in a system with multiple processors - as long
as the messages are on the same filesystem.
It's got nothing to do with IP
Mitch \(WebCob\) writes:
My understanding is that IMAP UID is supposed to be ascending, but POP3's
requirement is simply that it be unique? What would happen if IMAP UID was
simply unique? Would client software break? Much client software is used to
Yes.
Well, I only know of one for certain, off the top of my head anyway...
:) Mail.app on Mac OS X uses it for it's junk mail flags, and also to
mark a message as having been forwarded.
. select inbox
* FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Draft \Deleted \Seen Junk NotJunk
JunkRecorded Forwarded)
* OK [PERMA
Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Jerry Amundson writes:
Sometimes, particularly when hunting spammers, I need to associate an
IP address with the delivery of a message. Can the IP somehow be
discerned from the msgid? For example, of the two starts of
courieresmtpd below, which is responsible for the mess
My understanding of UID, was "Unique Idenitifier" (a few years back I wrote
a mail client for automated processing of some control messages). The Server
I was using at the time, handed out UID's and they didn't change during the
course of a session - even if a message was deleted, allowing you to u
Jerry Amundson writes:
Sometimes, particularly when hunting spammers, I need to associate an IP
address with the delivery of a message. Can the IP somehow be discerned
from the msgid? For example, of the two starts of courieresmtpd below,
which is responsible for the message?
Mar 10 10:07:26 a
Mitch \(WebCob\) writes:
Ok, so maybe I'm crazy, but couldn't the UID be generated in a reversable
form from the filename itself? Thereby eliminating the database and allowing
a message to keep it's UID across file moves?
A UID is a numerical counter. Some have advocated inserting the UID into
t
Vladislav Antolik writes:
Hi,
I'm using SunOS 5.7 on sparc, vpopmail-5.2.1, qmail-1.03 and
courier-imap-1.7.0.20030307.
When I execute make I got error:
Undefined first referenced
symbol in file
vclose libauth.a(pre
Jon Nelson writes:
The IMAP UIDPLUS extension. A UID needs to be assigned to each message in
the destination folder.
Yeah, I understood that. What I don't understand is why the uid db
needs to be *rebuilt* (rather than appended to or some other approach
taken) for *every* COPY (and several othe
David Ehle writes:
I am also using XFS and while it isn't zippy moving thousands of messages,
it will work. I think I've been up to 9000+ messages but I don't know if
I've ever passed 10,000. Even with XFS manipulating such large directories
can be tedious. Lots of file hanlding tools just throw
Mikhail Rozenblyum writes:
Hello All
I have Courier ESMTP - IMAP Server
IMAP and ESMTP both go over SSL
my ESMTPSSL port is 465
The problem occurs when I try sending mail using Outlook, and Mozilla mail
clients (Outlook Express works fine) I get "The operation timed out waiting
for response from
Jim Trigg writes:
automake1.5 and autoconf2.53 being the last buildable ports. Courier
0.41 appears to require automake 1.6 and autoconf 2.54.
autoconf and automake are only required to build from CVS. Building from
the tarballs does not actually require the toolchain.
--
James A Baker writes:
But, Sam... It'd be a *** REALLY *** nice thing to support! Right,
Sam...? Surely someone else has asked for them before... I mean...
well... Haven't they...??
No, actually not. I'm still waiting for a good explanation of what
value-added the keywords provide.
After all,
When I try to build it dies here:
cp -f ../userdb/userdbpw userdbpw
cp -f ../webmail/sqwebmail webmail
cp -f ../makedat/makedat .
cp -f ../userdb/makeuserdb makeuserdb
cp -f ../userdb/userdb.pl userdb
cp -f ../userdb/pw2userdb pw2userdb
cp -f ../userdb/vchkpw2userdb vchkpw2userdb
cp -f ../imap/mki
Hello all,
I'm new to the list. I'm looking at Courier-imap with OpenLDAP
authentication, and Exim as the MTA, and Squirrelmail as a web front
end. I've got Exim talking to OpenLDAP and delivering mail to the
proper MailDir, but the authdaemon talking to OpenLDAP is giving me
problems. I've tri
Hello,
I have installed courier-0.40.2 (maildrop, esmtp, imap, pop3, mlm) on
RedHat 8.0. I use a setup with one mail-user vmail and userdb, mail goes
to /home/vmail/foo.com/bar/Maildir/ for user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Now I want all addresses for a domain to be sent to this virtual user,
s.th. like
Yes, I have been able to use fetchmail to transfer Notes/Domino email to
a Courier-IMAP server. It works for "regular" email, but there are some
difficulties. For example, forget about Lotus-encrypted secure mail, it
can't be unencrypted. Also, of course email regarding collaborations like
meetings
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/10/03
at 03:24 PM, Jim Trigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 03:54:52AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Jim,
*SNIP*
>> VA to CA shouldn't be any harder than across town. We used to do our HKG
>> boxes out of Zurcih, 'til I brushed up my morib
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/10/03
at 02:18 PM, Anti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 04:03:03 +0800
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/10/03
>>at 01:50 PM, Anti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>>
>>
>> >[snip]
>> >>
>> >> OK, I'll try building from so
From: Sam Varshavchik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Jon Nelson writes:
>
> > I found the best documentation at:
> > http://www.courier-mta.org/
>
> I should point out that most of the documentation there consists of
> HTML versions of the man pages. Both the man pages, and the HTML, is
> genera
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003 04:03:03 +0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/10/03
>at 01:50 PM, Anti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
>
> >[snip]
> >>
> >> OK, I'll try building from source -- I was actually trying to update
> >> the port manually.
>
>
> >yes if you just force
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/10/03
at 01:50 PM, Anti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>[snip]
>>
>> OK, I'll try building from source -- I was actually trying to update
>> the port manually.
>yes if you just force the port to use the new source without the other
>necessary changed it'll fail on
[snip]
>
> OK, I'll try building from source -- I was actually trying to update
> the port manually.
yes if you just force the port to use the new source without the other
necessary changed it'll fail on that...
> > Will do my monthly CVS and make world sometime this week. Will advise.
> >
On Tue, Mar 11, 2003 at 02:53:35AM +0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/10/03
>at 01:13 PM, Jim Trigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> *SNIP*
> >>
> >> Were you on 5.0-RELEASE or 4.X?
> >>
> >> I got a functioning build on 5.0 with a few 'pre-requisites'.
> >>
> >>
Hello All
I have Courier ESMTP - IMAP Server
IMAP and ESMTP both go over SSL
my ESMTPSSL port is 465
The problem occurs when I try sending mail using Outlook, and Mozilla mail
clients (Outlook Express works fine) I get "The operation timed out waiting
for response from a server..." error
I trie
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/10/03
at 12:34 PM, Anti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:18:34 -0500
>Jim Trigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 07:35:14PM +0300, Pavel Rebrov wrote:
>> > Hi, Courier-Users.
>> >
>> >Just wanted to ask if there is a par
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/10/03
at 01:13 PM, Jim Trigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
*SNIP*
>>
>> Were you on 5.0-RELEASE or 4.X?
>>
>> I got a functioning build on 5.0 with a few 'pre-requisites'.
>>
>> Perhaps 5.0 has newer tools?
>I was on 4.6.2-RELEASE, but the errors I was running int
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:18:34 -0500
Jim Trigg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 07:35:14PM +0300, Pavel Rebrov wrote:
> > Hi, Courier-Users.
> >
> >Just wanted to ask if there is a particular reason for not updating
> >/usr/ports/mail/courier ?
> >
> >Latest release
Jon Nelson wrote:
Using the numbers at that website, I feel your conclusions are incorrect
or hastily drawn. I'm not going to include the 'ReiserFS2' numbers here
because they can't be compared to the ext3 numbers -- you performed no
tests with ext3 and the noatime,nodiratime flags -- thus the m
Здравствуйте, Jim.
Вы писали 10 марта 2003 г., 20:18:34:
>>Just wanted to ask if there is a particular reason for not updating
>>/usr/ports/mail/courier ?
JT> automake1.5 and autoconf2.53 being the last buildable ports. Courier
JT> 0.41 appears to require automake 1.6 and autoconf 2.54.
I want to try fetchmail.
We are out of budget to buy another software.
Jeff Slutzky wrote:
I am actually going through a Notes conversion myself. I found a mail
file conversion tool (UNIACCESS), that works with .nsf files as well and
can write the mail to any IMAP folder. You have to purchase i
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 03/10/03
at 07:35 PM, Pavel Rebrov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Hi, Courier-Users.
> Just wanted to ask if there is a particular reason for not updating
> /usr/ports/mail/courier ?
> Latest release is Courier-0.41 and port is still courier-0.39.3.
AFAIK, the p
Sometimes, particularly when hunting spammers, I need to associate an IP
address with the delivery of a message. Can the IP somehow be discerned
from the msgid? For example, of the two starts of courieresmtpd below,
which is responsible for the message?
Mar 10 10:07:26 arsenic courieresmtpd: st
On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 07:35:14PM +0300, Pavel Rebrov wrote:
> Hi, Courier-Users.
>
>Just wanted to ask if there is a particular reason for not updating
>/usr/ports/mail/courier ?
>
>Latest release is Courier-0.41 and port is still courier-0.39.3.
Having tried to build it from sourc
On Monday, Mar 10, 2003, at 06:41 US/Central, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
Takae Kanai writes:
A5 STORE 3 +FLAGS (userRecent) <-- this line
* 3 FETCH (FLAGS ())
A5 OK STORE completed.
-
In other IMAP servers, the user flag(userRecent) was able to be
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Jon Nelson wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
..
> > > The problem was here:
> > >
> > > rename("./tmp/1047264752.M614842P7612_imapuid_1458.honker.localdomain",
> > >".gpz2/courierimapuiddb") = -1 EXDEV (Invalid cross-device link)
> > >
> > > I did
Ok, so maybe I'm crazy, but couldn't the UID be generated in a reversable
form from the filename itself? Thereby eliminating the database and allowing
a message to keep it's UID across file moves?
Maybe I'm oversimplifying, but is there a reason such a scheme is
impossible?
m/
-Original Mess
Hi, Courier-Users.
Just wanted to ask if there is a particular reason for not updating
/usr/ports/mail/courier ?
Latest release is Courier-0.41 and port is still courier-0.39.3.
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I am actually going through a Notes conversion myself. I found a mail file
conversion tool (UNIACCESS), that works with .nsf files as well and can
write the mail to any IMAP folder. You have to purchase it, but you can get
away with purchasing 1 license for $99 from www.comaxis.com. It has to
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Juri Haberland wrote:
> Jon Nelson schrieb:
>
> > That being said, I *really* don't want this to degenerate into a "my
> > filesystem is better than your filesystem", because it's a pointless and
> > annoying argument.
>
> The point is, with ext2 or ext3, you will hit the wa
sorry, this was my problem, solved now
thanks anyway
patrick
Jon Nelson schrieb:
> That being said, I *really* don't want this to degenerate into a "my
> filesystem is better than your filesystem", because it's a pointless and
> annoying argument.
The point is, with ext2 or ext3, you will hit the wall if you have more
than 10k messages in one folder. AFAIK
hi,
i just wanted to upgrade my courier 0.40
installation to the newest 0.41 and i ran into problems.
my system is running on suse 7.3. when i run
./configure everything looks fine but after su to root and execute "make
install" it tells me te following:
Compiling strhdevt.crm -f lib
Hi,
Anyone here already did this???
I've tryied some things, but I'm afraid
of loosing some info.
I plan using an IMAP account that
can read all IMAP folders from Notes
and fetchmail to store on the new server.
Does anyone knows if this can be done successfully?
There is some other method??
There
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, Paul Warren wrote:
> On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 11:03, Juri Haberland wrote:
> > > I have been experimenting with a few things, and have noticed that imapd
> > > is almost unbearably slow when moving (actually, COPY 'ing) messages to
> > > a Maildir that is 'large'. By 'large' I q
Hi,
I'm using SunOS 5.7 on sparc, vpopmail-5.2.1, qmail-1.03 and
courier-imap-1.7.0.20030307.
When I execute make I got error:
Undefined first referenced
symbol in file
vclose libauth.a(preauthvchkpw.o)
vget_assign
On Sun, 9 Mar 2003, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Jon Nelson writes:
>
> > 9000 messages. I am running under Linux 2.4.20, and use the ext3
> > filesystem, although I've run my experiments on both the IBM jfs and the
> > ext3 filesystems. The filesystem is not the issue here, however.
> >
> > Simpl
On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 11:03, Juri Haberland wrote:
> > I have been experimenting with a few things, and have noticed that imapd
> > is almost unbearably slow when moving (actually, COPY 'ing) messages to
> > a Maildir that is 'large'. By 'large' I qualify that to mean roughly
> > 9000 messages. I
I have installed courier-imap/pop3 with mysql support on OpenBSD. I copied
all the config files into /etc/courier-imap and changed as little as
possible from the defaults. The three servers...pop3, imap and authdaemon
all start properly with imap and pop3 answering when i telnet into them on
thei
I am also using XFS and while it isn't zippy moving thousands of messages,
it will work. I think I've been up to 9000+ messages but I don't know if
I've ever passed 10,000. Even with XFS manipulating such large directories
can be tedious. Lots of file hanlding tools just throw up their hands an
Takae Kanai writes:
A5 STORE 3 +FLAGS (userRecent) <-- this line
* 3 FETCH (FLAGS ())
A5 OK STORE completed.
A6 FETCH 1:3 (FLAGS)
* 1 FETCH (FLAGS ())
* 2 FETCH (FLAGS ())
* 3 FETCH (FLAGS ())
A6 OK FETCH completed.
A7 LOGOUT
* BYE Courier-IMAP server shutting down
A7 OK LOGOUT completed
Connecti
Mikhail Rozenblyum writes:
Hello List,
I am using courier SMTP any Ideas why I occasionally get errors like this
the Server is behind firewall on port 465 with SSL
"Error reading SMTP packet; response to dot-stuffed message expected"
The firewall is probably broken.
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On Sunday, Mar 9, 2003, at 19:11 US/Central, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
It might be possible to avoid needing any patching, until gettext gets
it right. Try this:
CPPFLAGS='-D _INTL_REDIRECT_MACROS'
export CPPFLAGS
./configure [ options ]
If this works, it might simply be reflected in the build ins
On Monday 10 March 2003 05:08, Anand Buddhdev
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't see a problem with setting it higher, as long as
> it's not too high, otherwise courier's esmtpd could be
> DOSsed with a large number of recipients. 500 seems ok to
> me.
Thanks. I'll set it way up on a test mach
Jon Nelson wrote:
> I'm using the version of courier-imap that comes with 0.41.
>
> I have been experimenting with a few things, and have noticed that imapd
> is almost unbearably slow when moving (actually, COPY 'ing) messages to
> a Maildir that is 'large'. By 'large' I qualify that to mean rou
Hello everyone.
I want to learn whether courier-imap can use the user flag. (I am
using courier-imap-1.7.0. )
I executed the following IMAP command. However, I was not able to
set the user flag(userRecent) depending on the STORE command.
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