Re: [courier-users] RE: RFC 1035

2004-05-03 Thread Phillip Hutchings
I think the question is: Why does it *need* to be fixed in the first place, except for the reason that it's not RFC compliant? The way the internet works is defined by the RFCs. Imagine if for some reason a car manufacturer decided to have the registration/licence plate on the roof of the car,

[courier-users] Re: RFC 1035

2004-05-03 Thread Jeff Potter
Well, one thing that Courier _could_ do when it encounters an unresolvable MX record would be to try the next MX record in the series. The original post said that the MX records look like this: MX 8 n.n.n.n. MX 10 mail.foobar.com. In this case, Courier could t

[courier-users] Re: quoting "Return-Path" in header

2004-05-03 Thread Jeff Potter
Is quoting extra "Return-paths" with ">" defined somewhere? (e.g. rfc?) I'd thought you decided to quote extra "return-path"s to make it unambiguous which one was the real return-path, to prevent looping, etc., as a boundary case. I don't think it's really defined anywhere. It's one of those

[courier-users] id in log files

2004-05-03 Thread Theo Cabrerizo Diem
Hi list, (I think I've seen something about this before but didn't found anything in archives) When I receive a message, ,courierd logs me an id info (like courierd: newmsg,id=00291B43.4096B088.78B8: dns; localhost ). I'm trying to log info about CRM114 [1] filter using logfile/log in maildro

[courier-users] RE: RFC 1035

2004-05-03 Thread Julian Mehnle
Phillip Hutchings wrote: > The way the internet works is defined by the RFCs. Imagine if for some > reason a car manufacturer decided to have the registration/licence > plate on the roof of the car, not on the back. Sure, it's still there, > but it's not where it's supposed to be, and instead of ar

[courier-users] Re: RFC 1035

2004-05-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Julian Mehnle writes: Sam Varshavchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MX records contain hostnames, not IP addresses. Normal processing of MX records will result in the malformed MX record getting ignored (since the A lookup on the hostname will fail). So, with none the wiser, the MX record will be igno

[courier-users] Re: quoting "Return-Path" in header

2004-05-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jeff Potter writes: What other software expects ">Return-path"? How would changing > to X- break anything? It's not going to break anything in Courier itself (save for that reformail bit). As far as other stuff out there, there are no guarantees. All bets are off. pgp0.pgp Description

Re: [courier-users] RE: RFC 1035

2004-05-03 Thread Stefan Hornburg
On Tue, 4 May 2004 00:13:24 +0200 "Julian Mehnle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Phillip Hutchings wrote: > > The way the internet works is defined by the RFCs. Imagine if for some > > reason a car manufacturer decided to have the registration/licence > > plate on the roof of the car, not on the bac

Re: [courier-users] RE: RFC 1035

2004-05-03 Thread Phillip Hutchings
Because obviously a significant number of people misinterprets the RFC. More likely, they just have no clue and never read this RFC. I didn't read the RFC, but I have always used an A record for MX. It just doesn't seem logical to put IP addresses in places other than A records, the idea being t

[courier-users] RE: RFC 1035

2004-05-03 Thread Julian Mehnle
Matthias Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If there are implementations that try to guess is something is an IP or > a domain, than they can make wrong assumptions [...] There's no need to guess. There are no official digit-only top-level domains, and digit-only top-level domains are not widely u

RE: [courier-users] Re: RFC 1035

2004-05-03 Thread Carey Jung
> > Isn't it possible to turn of BOFHCHECKDNS selectively in smtpaccess? > (And yes, the sender should fix their systems!) > Yes, it is. If the offending MX is MX 10 n.n.n.n you can put n.n.n.n allow,BOFHCHECKDNS=0 in smtpaccess. Carey

[courier-users] Re: RFC 1035

2004-05-03 Thread Lloyd Zusman
Matthias Wimmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi Carey! > > Carey Jung schrieb am 2004-05-03 08:26:15: >> Good question. It just adds to my administrative burden. Also, in my >> current case, the sending MX records look like this: >> >> MX 8 n.n.n.n. > > By adding the final "."

Re: [courier-users] Re: RFC 1035

2004-05-03 Thread Martijn Lievaart
Sam Varshavchik wrote: Your only option is to turn off BOFHCHECKDNS, which turns off ALL dns checking, letting in all sorts of crap. It's much better to tell the sender to fix their dns. Isn't it possible to turn of BOFHCHECKDNS selectively in smtpaccess? (And yes, the sender should fix their

Re: [courier-users] Attached PDF's getting rejected - Can BOFHBADMIME bet "tuned"

2004-05-03 Thread Martijn Lievaart
John Bossert wrote: 0.45.4. Had an email with an attached PDF file rejected with "improperly formatted binary content." I've read the FAQ and manpages on BOFHBADMIME, but before I enable it and say "just send me junk", is there any reasonable means of analysis? I'm told that email (with pdf

Re: [courier-users] RE: RFC 1035

2004-05-03 Thread Matthias Wimmer
Hi Carey! Carey Jung schrieb am 2004-05-03 08:26:15: > Good question. It just adds to my administrative burden. Also, in my > current case, the sending MX records look like this: > > MX 8 n.n.n.n. By adding the final "." to this record you already noticed, that also what the

RE: [courier-users] RE: RFC 1035

2004-05-03 Thread Carey Jung
> Sam Varshavchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > MX records contain hostnames, not IP addresses. Normal processing of MX > > records will result in the malformed MX record getting ignored (since > > the A lookup on the hostname will fail). > > > > So, with none the wiser, the MX record will be ignor

[courier-users] RE: RFC 1035

2004-05-03 Thread Julian Mehnle
Sam Varshavchik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > MX records contain hostnames, not IP addresses. Normal processing of MX > records will result in the malformed MX record getting ignored (since > the A lookup on the hostname will fail). > > So, with none the wiser, the MX record will be ignored. This ma

[courier-users] Re: RFC 1035

2004-05-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Carey Jung writes: Your only option is to turn off BOFHCHECKDNS, which turns off ALL dns checking, letting in all sorts of crap. It's much better to tell the sender to fix their dns. Okay, I'll do that. In this case, the DNS hosting firm is local, so I should be able to do this. I'm curious, tho

[courier-users] Re: Attached PDF's getting rejected - Can BOFHBADMIME bet "tuned"

2004-05-03 Thread Sam Varshavchik
John Bossert writes: Is there any sort of analysis I can run to see what the problem is/was (and what I might say to the postmaster at the other site to "fix" things?) Here's what I'm getting: Take the whole message, and look for 8-bit characters. tr -d '\0-\177' will find them. Since the head