Re: [courier-users] Passes SPF but still being classified as spam

2008-09-06 Thread Art Sackett
On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 03:15:34AM +0200, Jérôme Blion wrote: eg: some AOL mail servers are not registered in the SPF field of aol.com. Hmmm... looking at AOL's SPF record, I see in addition to several ip4 records a ptr record and a terminal '?all', so there's no hard fail mechanism. Be that

Re: [courier-users] Passes SPF but still being classified as spam

2008-09-06 Thread mouss
Tim Lyth wrote: Hi all, My wife has complained that a number of genuine (advertising) email have been classified as spam by SA, yet they have SPF_PASS in the list of tests run against the email. Unfortunately, SPF_PASS is given 0.0 weighting by SA and therefore the emails are being

Re: [courier-users] Passes SPF but still being classified as spam

2008-09-06 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Samstag, 6. September 2008 03:15 schrieb Jérôme Blion: […] More over, when using mailing lists, it's a bad idea to reject any mail with a failed SPF check. Why? Sensible mailing list software replaces the Sender: header field so that the sender address uses a domain belonging to the

Re: [courier-users] Passes SPF but still being classified as spam

2008-09-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Wolfgang Jeltsch writes: Am Samstag, 6. September 2008 03:15 schrieb Jérôme Blion: […] More over, when using mailing lists, it's a bad idea to reject any mail with a failed SPF check. Why? Sensible mailing list software replaces the Sender: header field so that the sender address uses a

Re: [courier-users] Passes SPF but still being classified as spam

2008-09-06 Thread Wolfgang Jeltsch
Am Samstag, 6. September 2008 20:38 schrieb Sam Varshavchik: Wolfgang Jeltsch writes: Am Samstag, 6. September 2008 03:15 schrieb Jérôme Blion: […] More over, when using mailing lists, it's a bad idea to reject any mail with a failed SPF check. Why? Sensible mailing list software

Re: [courier-users] Passes SPF but still being classified as spam

2008-09-06 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Wolfgang Jeltsch writes: Am Samstag, 6. September 2008 20:38 schrieb Sam Varshavchik: Wolfgang Jeltsch writes: Am Samstag, 6. September 2008 03:15 schrieb Jérôme Blion: […] More over, when using mailing lists, it's a bad idea to reject any mail with a failed SPF check. Why? Sensible

Re: [courier-users] Passes SPF but still being classified as spam

2008-09-06 Thread Tim Lyth
Steve Shockley wrote: Tim Lyth wrote: What do people recommend I do? New wife is the only reasonable option. I like the lateral thinking. And I HAVE considered that, but for other reasons... Cheers, Tim Lyth

[courier-users] Passes SPF but still being classified as spam

2008-09-05 Thread Tim Lyth
Hi all, My wife has complained that a number of genuine (advertising) email have been classified as spam by SA, yet they have SPF_PASS in the list of tests run against the email. Unfortunately, SPF_PASS is given 0.0 weighting by SA and therefore the emails are being classified as spam. I'm

Re: [courier-users] Passes SPF but still being classified as spam

2008-09-05 Thread Jérôme Blion
Tim Lyth a écrit : Hi all, My wife has complained that a number of genuine (advertising) email have been classified as spam by SA, yet they have SPF_PASS in the list of tests run against the email. Unfortunately, SPF_PASS is given 0.0 weighting by SA and therefore the emails are being

Re: [courier-users] Passes SPF but still being classified as spam

2008-09-05 Thread Art Sackett
On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 01:45:13AM +1000, Tim Lyth wrote: I'm tempted to dig through the SA config file to edit the weighting for the SPF_PASS test, but I'm concerned that this may lead to false-negatives for genuine spam. Myself, if I were using SA instead of DSPAM: I'd use Courier's

Re: [courier-users] Passes SPF but still being classified as spam

2008-09-05 Thread Esa
On 5.9.2008 17:45, Tim Lyth wrote: I'm tempted to dig through the SA config file to edit the weighting for the SPF_PASS test, but I'm concerned that this may lead to false-negatives for genuine spam. What do people recommend I do? Well, considering that SPF is not a anti-spam technique,

Re: [courier-users] Passes SPF but still being classified as spam

2008-09-05 Thread Jérôme Blion
Art Sackett a écrit : On Sat, Sep 06, 2008 at 01:45:13AM +1000, Tim Lyth wrote: I'm tempted to dig through the SA config file to edit the weighting for the SPF_PASS test, but I'm concerned that this may lead to false-negatives for genuine spam. Myself, if I were using SA instead of

Re: [courier-users] Passes SPF but still being classified as spam

2008-09-05 Thread Steve Shockley
Tim Lyth wrote: What do people recommend I do? New wife is the only reasonable option. Can't SA do some kind of whitelist? - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest