Re: testers, authors, qa and making it all worthwhile

2008-09-04 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from David Golden # on Thursday 04 September 2008 11:30: >On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:09 PM, chromatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I fail to understand the mechanism by which CPAN Testers has >> seemingly removed the ability of testers to report bugs to the >> correct places.  For example, > >I t

Re: CPAN Testers nag bot (was Re: Still "This module requires 'Module::Build' and 'CPANPLUS::Dist::Build' to be installed,")

2008-09-05 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from David Golden # on Friday 05 September 2008 04:53: >One of my potential weekend projects (after patching CPAN::Reporter >and Test::Reporter) is to write a CPAN Testers nag-bot that checks for >reports sent with out-of-date tools and emails authors (probably only >once a day) with a reminder

Re: reasonable reporting

2008-09-05 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Andy Lester # on Friday 05 September 2008 09:34: >> Well, yeah, I have too. And sometimes I make a tweak to get things   >> working on 5.005, and other times I tell my users that it runs 5.006 >>   or later by saying so in Build.PL. Seems reasonable to me to >> specify such dependencies. >

Re: revokable FAIL (was Reporting Bugs Where ... (was ...))

2008-09-05 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Aristotle Pagaltzis # on Friday 05 September 2008 06:07: >> UNIVERSAL::isa and UNIVERSAL::can are examples of applying the >> design principle of Report Bugs Where They Are, Not Where They >> Appear. > >How do you propose doing that in the general case? I am certainly >interested in what te

Re: revokable FAIL (was Reporting Bugs Where ... (was ...))

2008-09-05 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from David Golden # on Friday 05 September 2008 15:22: >On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Eric Wilhelm wrote: >The one thing that concerns me is that some authors >object to FAIL reports showing up on their search.cpan.org page and >will just want them all blanked out. > >So

Re: Plans for CPAN Testers notification when author CC's go away

2008-09-06 Thread Eric Wilhelm
Hi Nadim, # from nadim khemir # on Saturday 06 September 2008 01:18: >Why not let authors decide which modules they want to get smoked? >Why not let authors decide which platform they want their modules > smoked on? Because they might decide 'none'? This might eliminate information that is use

Re: testing the install step

2008-09-07 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from imacat # on Sunday 07 September 2008 12:52: >> On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 03:00:40PM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote: >> This requires the tester to have the infrastructure in place to >> clean up afterwards - probably by running in a VM (which itself >> limits testing to > >    I believe there is "c

Re: testing the install step

2008-09-08 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from David Landgren # on Monday 08 September 2008 13:09: >>>I've played with unionfs on debian >>> etch and I think it would do everything you need (possibly even >>> from within a chroot) unless your needs involve a few particular >>> things with nfs, which is where the aufs "new hotness" comes

Re: Module::Build 0.2809 release coming, should we test it?

2008-09-08 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Andreas J. Koenig # on Monday 08 September 2008 15:16: >Since yesterday I have downloaded and analysed ~56000 testreports from >cpantesters and found ~135 distros that have been tested by both MB >0.2808 and 0.2808_03. There is only one result (Test-Group-0.12) that >looks bad but it turns

Re: testing alpha toolchain modules

2008-09-09 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Andreas J. Koenig # on Tuesday 09 September 2008 00:09: >OK, I walk you through them. First off, there are ten cases in the >file I sent you. >... > So the above is a case where it's impossible to judge without > looking at the report but at the same time we cannot have any > expectation

Re: testing alpha toolchain modules

2008-09-09 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from David Golden # on Tuesday 09 September 2008 16:00: >This would be better if I finally updated CPAN::Reporter::Smoker to >take an arbitrary list of distributions instead of just working >backwards through CPAN and if you had a list of distributions with >Build.PL. Indeed I do have such a li

Re: to encourage CPAN::Reporter use

2008-09-10 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from David Golden # on Wednesday 10 September 2008 04:07: >I would suggest just including a link to the wiki. >It has information on how to get set up to send tests and they can get >to the reports page from there.  Having a choice of two websites >decreases the chance they'll look at either.  (

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2008-09-11 Thread Eric Wilhelm
hing about it, of which I would be greatly appreciative. >And the "Reply via email to Eric Wilhelm" link takes me to an error > page. Where did this come from? --Eric -- So malloc calls a timeout and starts rummaging around the free chain, sorting things out, and merging adjacent s

Re: CPAN Testers - Author Notification System

2008-09-11 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Randy J. Ray # on Thursday 11 September 2008 12:22: >> [1] If you can think of a suitable word beginning with 'L' to >> replace 'Service' let me know ;) > >"Labors"? "CENTRAS" would probably google better than "CENTRAL", but my thought was "too bad Xs aren't cool anymore (hmm, but could y

Re: CPAN Testers - Author Notification System

2008-09-11 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Michael G Schwern # on Thursday 11 September 2008 14:17: >At first glance this new system is going to generate a lot more work > per report.  Let's step through the old procedure... > >1.  Read report >2.  Reply to report Did you actually get every report on a CC? I never seemed to get mo

Re: Just started smoking - getting a lot of mail warning reports

2008-09-12 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from David Golden # on Friday 12 September 2008 16:33: ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> define(`confSINGLE_THREAD_DELIVERY', True)dnl >> define(`SMTP_MAILER_MAXMSGS', 1)dnl >> define(`RELAY_MAILER_MAXMSGS', 1)dnl > >Ah.  For me, everything gets relayed to my ISP's smart-host and I >guess they don'

Daily Report nits

2008-09-12 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from CPAN Tester Report Server # on Friday 12 September 2008 19:42: >File-Fu-v0.0.4: >- i86pc-solaris-thread-multi-64int / 5.10.0: > - FAIL http://nntp.x.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.testers/2201908 >- i686-linux-thread-multi-64int-ld / 5.8.8: > - FAIL http://nntp.x.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.tester

Re: howto ... Prima does what?

2008-09-27 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Dmitry Karasik # on Saturday 27 September 2008: >Prima::noX11 is a part of Prima. It is not found because CPANPLUS > apparently doesn't execute "make install", but relies on hacking > $ENV{PERL5LIB}. This doesn't work for Prima, because its build > process is not based on populating ./blib.

Re: howto ... Prima does what?

2008-09-28 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Dmitry Karasik # on Sunday 28 September 2008: >> Would it be enough to just add the distribution directory itself to >> PERL5LIB?  That has some risk of polluting @INC in a way that could >> cause problems -- but I think the risk is low. > >In Prima's case that should work, but it won't in

Re: howto ... Prima does what?

2008-09-28 Thread Eric Wilhelm
# from Eric Wilhelm # on Sunday 28 September 2008: ># from Dmitry Karasik ># on Sunday 28 September 2008: > >>> Would it be enough to just add the distribution directory itself to >>> PERL5LIB?  That has some risk of polluting @INC in a way that could >>> cause

compat Makefile.PL bombs when Build.PL does exit(0)

2008-12-12 Thread Eric Wilhelm
Hi all, I don't have time to triage all of the M::B bugs and we really need to get some of these cleared out. This one looks like it may have been resolved within the last year and possibly been made a non-issue by recent cpantesters improvements. Could I please have a volunteer to look into