Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: E74 Group (from LRMoo discussions)

2018-05-09 Thread Conal Tuohy
On 7 May 2018 at 14:27, Pat Riva wrote: > Propose to modify the scope note of E74 Group so that it clearly > corresponds to LRM-E8 Collective Agent. To do this any groups of people not > having agency, such as national, religious, cultural, ethnic groups, must > be excluded from the scope of E74.

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: E74 Group (from LRMoo discussions)

2018-05-09 Thread Pat Riva
?Each individual in a democratic nation can choose to vote (or not). Then the elected government (an LRM-E8 Collective agent) takes actions and is responsible, not all those people holding that citizenship. Pat Riva Associate University Librarian, Collection Services Concordia University V

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: E74 Group (from LRMoo discussions)

2018-05-09 Thread Conal Tuohy
It's the citizenry as a whole which decides who that government should be. It's not the decision of an individual elector, but of the citizenry as a group. On 9 May 2018 at 16:40, Pat Riva wrote: > ​Each individual in a democratic nation can choose to vote (or not). > > Then the elected governme

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: E74 Group (from LRMoo discussions)

2018-05-09 Thread Øyvind Eide
But nations are much more than democratic nation-states. What about small nations steered by consensus, clan based nations, national with a significant number of political decisions based on referendum? What about nations/countries where voting is obligatory and it is a criminal offence not to v

Re: [Crm-sig] ISSUE: E74 Group (from LRMoo discussions)

2018-05-09 Thread Christian-Emil Smith Ore
Hello The issue ws discussed in the Cologne meeting. The changes in yellow do not fullfil the rquirement "Propose to modify the scope note of E74 Group so that it clearly corresponds to LRM-E8 Collective Agent. To do this any groups of people not having agency, such as national, religious, cu

[Crm-sig] Issue 358: new template

2018-05-09 Thread Athanasios Velios
Issue notes here: http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-358-crmsoc-and-scope-of-crm-modules I am continuing with one of the sub-issues which says: "About simplifying the template for the description of the family models: During the discussion about describing the new family model CRMsoc, the sig dec

[Crm-sig] Managing CRM and CRM extension versions

2018-05-09 Thread Athanasios Velios
During the last meeting we agreed to review the way that the documentation about CRM base and its extensions is managed. This is probably as part of issue 358, but there have been messages in the list about this issue (e.g. by Rob, but I can't find the reference) Francesco, George and I discussed

[Crm-sig] Scope note of E94 Space Primitive

2018-05-09 Thread Athanasios Velios
In version 6.2.2 there is a paragraph towards the end of the scope note for E94 Space Primitive which looks like it has been copied and pasted from an earlier version of P168. It refers to a "property" which does not make sense. So I propose that it changes from: "Note that it is possible for a p

[Crm-sig] Scope note of P8

2018-05-09 Thread Athanasios Velios
In version 6.2 the scope note for "P8 took place on or within" says: "P8 took place on or within (witnessed) is a shortcut of the more fully developed path from ‘E4 Period’ through ‘P7 took place at,’ ‘E53 Place’, ‘P156 occupies’, to ‘E18 Physical Thing’." I think it should use the reverse label