Re: [Crm-sig] A symbol made of symbols

2020-01-16 Thread Ethan Gruber
I think the version issue is a general problem with CRM documentation, which is related to the other thread about being able to resolve URIs consistently. If you go to http://www.cidoc-crm.org/ and click "Current Version", it's 6.2.3, so I wasn't aware there were any newer ones. Now that I've found

Re: [Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM URI management

2020-01-16 Thread Athanasios Velios
I agree with Detlev's proposal. Also, I believe that versions should not be included in the class URIs. These are not normally used to retrieve reasoning rules but only to identify classes, right? Resolving the class URI should return all versions of the class. All the best, Thanasis On 16/0

Re: [Crm-sig] A symbol made of symbols

2020-01-16 Thread Ethan Gruber
Hi Rob, I'm not sure that works since we've decided that a monogram is an E37_Mark ("This class comprises symbols, signs, signatures or short texts applied to instances of E24 Physical Man-Made Thing by arbitrary techniques in order to indicate the creator, owner, dedications, purpose, etc."). I

Re: [Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM URI management

2020-01-16 Thread Detlev Balzer
> Martin Doerr hat am 16. Januar 2020 um 13:27 > geschrieben: > > (...) > At FORTH we will implement anything that is regarded good practice, and > does not create a manual overhead we cannot manage. For formal specifications such as ontologies, there is a widely adopted pattern for change m

Re: [Crm-sig] A symbol made of symbols

2020-01-16 Thread Robert Sanderson
Ethan, Could you do : ?monogram a E33_Linguistic_Object ; crm:P106_is_composed_of ?character . ?character a E33_Linguistic_Object ; crm:P190_has_symbolic_content โ€œโ˜งโ€ . ? That would avoid the punning that the chi-rho is both an E33 and a literal at the same time. Rob From: Crm-sig on behalf

Re: [Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM URI management

2020-01-16 Thread Richard Light
On 16/01/2020 12:09, George Bruseker wrote: Dear all, I agree that this is an ongoing issue that creates barriers to uptake because of confusion. It is an oft repeated question and deserves a clear answer. We need a solution based on community wide best practice. Suggestions? George, It sounds

Re: [Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM URI management

2020-01-16 Thread Robert Sanderson
Dear all, I have a python script that already does this for CRM and the Linked Art extension. The results of that script for Linked Art can be seen here: https://linked.art/ns/terms/ -- the entire ontology is returned when dereferencing the namespace https://linked.art/ns/terms/paid_amount.

Re: [Crm-sig] A symbol made of symbols

2020-01-16 Thread Ethan Gruber
I have a followup question to the use of crm:P165i_is_incorporated_in. We have implemented this property to link a Monogram to a representative, idealized SVG URI. In a very narrow subset of cases (maybe only one that I know of so far), a monogram is notable enough to have warranted entry into Unic

[Crm-sig] HW: Issue 431

2020-01-16 Thread Martin Doerr
On 1/16/2020 3:10 PM, Bekiari Xrysoula wrote: Dear Martin We would like to remind you the HW on issue 431. You may find the details in http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-431-make-methodology-clear all the best Chryssoula - Eleni Dear All, Here my proposal, in italics the additions, at thre

Re: [Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM URI management

2020-01-16 Thread Martin Doerr
Dear Francesco, At FORTH we will implement anything that is regarded good practice, and does not create a manual overhead we cannot manage. Volunteers to design whatever is needed? Best, Martin On 1/16/2020 12:45 PM, Francesco Beretta wrote: Dear all, I have a question about CIDOC CRM URI

Re: [Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM URI management

2020-01-16 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, I agree that this is an ongoing issue that creates barriers to uptake because of confusion. It is an oft repeated question and deserves a clear answer. We need a solution based on community wide best practice. Suggestions? Best, George On Thu., Jan. 16, 2020, 12:51 p.m. Francesco Bere

[Crm-sig] CIDOC CRM URI management

2020-01-16 Thread Francesco Beretta
Dear all, I have a question about CIDOC CRM URI management. The last published version of CRMbase is 6.2.1. If I take the RDF serialization, I find this base URI: http://www.cidoc-crm.org/cidoc-crm/ If I sent this URI in the web: http://www.cidoc-crm.org/cidoc-crm/E92_Spacetime_Volume I