Re: [Crm-sig] Argument for an Instrument Class (and its property)

2021-09-07 Thread Øyvind Eide via Crm-sig
Really interesting distinction. When doing pre-digital surveys for maps we used the compass for direction (clearly an instrument, and active?) and bodily calibrated steps to count the meters of distances (clearly part of the human body). Still the results of these measurements were more or less

Re: [Crm-sig] Argument for an Instrument Class (and its property)

2021-09-07 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Great!  Critical question: What constitutes a single instrument, and where do we draw a line to tools? I'd argue that one measurement instrument should be able to yield a quantitative result, and be a sort of "black box" integrated device, such as the sequencing machines. Question: yardsticks

Re: [Crm-sig] Argument for an Instrument Class (and its property)

2021-09-07 Thread Robert Sanderson via Crm-sig
I'm happy to take a homework to write up DNA measurement with CRM and Instruments in mind :) [My wife used to work for Illumina , and then for one of their biggest customers, and was part of the team that discovered the markers that led to Grail ]

Re: [Crm-sig] Argument for an Instrument Class (and its property)

2021-09-07 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear All, Just to give you a picture of the diversity and complexity we discuss. Probably the high-end in complexity is a DNA - taxonomic distance measurement, a procedure, even though straightforward and deterministic, as I understand, with an great number of steps, a series of instruments

Re: [Crm-sig] Argument for an Instrument Class (and its property)

2021-09-06 Thread Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig
I think this would be a useful discussion and class. It has also been proposed within the PARCOURS model although perhaps a tighter proposal can be made. Thanasis P.S. The example for P103 could do with updating... On 01/09/2021 20:47, Martin Doerr via Crm-sig wrote: Hi George, I think

Re: [Crm-sig] Argument for an Instrument Class (and its property)

2021-09-01 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Hi George, I think this is a good idea, of course, we should first look at a more specific property, since "instruments" can be very heterogeneous, or we concentrate on measurement devices in a narrower sense. Best, Martin On 8/25/2021 12:53 PM, George Bruseker via Crm-sig wrote: Dear

[Crm-sig] Argument for an Instrument Class (and its property)

2021-08-25 Thread George Bruseker via Crm-sig
Dear all, I am working on a conservation science modelling project in which the users document also their machinery. Something that comes up is that they want to document the kind of property or variable that is measured by the machine. This is a property of the machine, what it can do (dunamis).