Re: [Crm-sig] Curated Holding vs Physical Thing as Aggregate vs Set

2019-11-16 Thread Martin Doerr
Dear All, Let me add two remarks: Information lives from relations, not classes. To talk about arrangements to sell a physical object and a conceptual object, does not create a requirement for a class combining the two. You just sell two things of different nature, in one provision. You may

Re: [Crm-sig] Curated Holding vs Physical Thing as Aggregate vs Set

2019-10-22 Thread Martin Doerr
Dear All, If the auction lot is just a list, then we could model it as a list, which refers to the things. A plan of what to sell. If it is sold piece by piece to different clients, it is not clear why it should be regarded as one thing at all. If it has an identifier for this particular

Re: [Crm-sig] Curated Holding vs Physical Thing as Aggregate vs Set

2019-10-22 Thread Athanasios Velios
What Martin describes was my understanding as well at the Linked.Art meeting. In response to Rob's notes: I think that indeed we have the "lot (object)" which is a physical thing that is sold and "lot (record)" which is a document talking about the "lot (object)". Writing about a physical

Re: [Crm-sig] Curated Holding vs Physical Thing as Aggregate vs Set

2019-10-21 Thread Martin Doerr
Dear Florian, All, It is not clear to me why people do not want to use E18 for Aggregates that are not intended to grow over time in the sense of a collection. The time, how long they are together, does not play a role. The question is only, if they are well defined and identified for some

Re: [Crm-sig] Curated Holding vs Physical Thing as Aggregate vs Set

2019-10-21 Thread Robert Sanderson
persons that identify as female, without implying a Group that is necessarily able of taking coherent action. Rob From: Crm-sig on behalf of Florian Kräutli Date: Monday, October 21, 2019 at 3:46 AM To: George Bruseker Cc: crm-sig Subject: Re: [Crm-sig] Curated Holding vs Physical Thing

Re: [Crm-sig] Curated Holding vs Physical Thing as Aggregate vs Set

2019-10-21 Thread Florian Kräutli
Dear George, This is indeed a problem I too have encountered often. The scope note of E78 suggests a rather narrow definition of a collection, but there is no satisfactory alternative for modelling the type of collections you describe. However, instead of introducing another class and then

[Crm-sig] Curated Holding vs Physical Thing as Aggregate vs Set

2019-10-20 Thread George Bruseker
Dear all, At the recent Linked.art event, the Linked.art group was attempting to model information related to auctions. It happens that during auctions, lots (collections or sets of things) are created with the intention that things will be sold together. Ie they are aggregates. In facing the