Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-04-03 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:45 PM To: 'Cross project issues' Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? Clearly debating this further will not lead to anything productive, so how about this instead. I will volunteer to write a script that takes existing Kepler SR2

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-28 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
- Konstantin From: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of David M Williams Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 10:05 PM To: Cross project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? Konstantin, thanks

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-27 Thread Mickael Istria
On 03/20/2014 03:50 PM, Konstantin Komissarchik wrote: I am wondering if we should do a limited SR release to pickup Java 8 patches. As it stands, Eclipse users interested in Java 8 would have to hunt for and install at least two patches, which doesn't paint Eclipse in a good light. This

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-27 Thread Mickael Istria
On 03/27/2014 08:32 AM, Mickael Istria wrote: On 03/20/2014 03:50 PM, Konstantin Komissarchik wrote: I am wondering if we should do a limited SR release to pickup Java 8 patches. As it stands, Eclipse users interested in Java 8 would have to hunt for and install at least two patches, which

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-27 Thread Tom Schindl
Why do you see this as a major regression? There's no problem beside that using java7 as compile target when you use JRE8 in the project. Tom On 27.03.14 08:38, Mickael Istria wrote: On 03/27/2014 08:32 AM, Mickael Istria wrote: On 03/20/2014 03:50 PM, Konstantin Komissarchik wrote: I am

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-27 Thread Sven Efftinge
I agree, that this is unfortunate and should be fixed. But doesn’t that only affect users, who have installed Java 8 plus the Eclipse-support *and* are using an environment for Java 8 but have the compiler set to something below 8? Is that something many people do? If so they will likely run

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-27 Thread Mike Milinkovich
On 27/03/2014 6:18 AM, Sven Efftinge wrote: So IMHO this is not a stopper for having a more prominent download for the Java 8 support. Just so everyone knows, the Eclipse Foundation is considering taking the following steps to raise awareness of our Java 8 support. This is coming partially

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-27 Thread Mike Milinkovich
On 27/03/2014 1:28 PM, Konstantin Komissarchik wrote: Well, it is more work, but it shouldn't be a lot of work since the bulk of it is automated and I would think that the value to Eclipse community and Eclipse reputation would outweigh the investment. My impression is that there is no

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-27 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
: Thursday, March 27, 2014 12:35 PM To: mike.milinkov...@eclipse.org; Cross project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? Yes, you have to remember, the Foundation doesn't put together releases, the projects do. And Mike is correct, there isn't consensus from

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-27 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? I understand your frustration. I think your efforts would be better spent though trying to convince the community to action with hard data, like the number of users who are switching to Java 8 right now that can't figure out how to install

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-27 Thread David M Williams
/27/2014 10:45 PM Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org Clearly debating this further will not lead to anything productive, so how about this instead… I will volunteer to write a script that takes

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-24 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
...@eclipse.org] on behalf of Konstantin Komissarchik [konstantin.komissarc...@oracle.com] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 11:25 AM To: 'Cross project issues' Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? There have been numerous calls for Java 8 support on the stable Kepler base

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-24 Thread Doug Schaefer
: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] on behalf of Konstantin Komissarchik [konstantin.komissarc...@oracle.com] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 12:05 PM To: 'Cross project issues' Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? I don't

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-24 Thread Daniel Megert
@eclipse.org Date: 24.03.2014 17:31 Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org WTP patch - Java facet needs to be amended to support Java 8 before any web developer can take advantage of Java 8 support in JDT. The WTP

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-23 Thread Doug Schaefer
...@eclipse.org] on behalf of Konstantin Komissarchik [konstantin.komissarc...@oracle.com] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 11:25 AM To: 'Cross project issues' Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? There have been numerous calls for Java 8 support on the stable Kepler base and patches

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-23 Thread Jan Köhnlein
] on behalf of Konstantin Komissarchik [konstantin.komissarc...@oracle.com] Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 11:25 AM To: 'Cross project issues' Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? There have been numerous calls for Java 8 support on the stable Kepler base and patches

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-21 Thread Daniel Megert
: 20.03.2014 15:51 Subject:[cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org I am wondering if we should do a limited SR release to pickup Java 8 patches. As it stands, Eclipse users interested in Java 8 would have to hunt

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-21 Thread Igor Fedorenko
] *On Behalf Of *Daniel Megert *Sent:* Friday, March 21, 2014 12:53 AM *To:* Cross project issues *Subject:* Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? Hi Konstantin Can you explain why you need two patches? For me the given instructions https://wiki.eclipse.org/JDT

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-21 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
project issues' cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org, 'EPP Developer Mailing List' epp-...@eclipse.org Date:20.03.2014 18:52 Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org _ Hmm. The wording

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-21 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
...@eclipse.org [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Igor Fedorenko Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 7:53 AM To: cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? Are you talking about separate update site with java 8 patches

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-21 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Ed Willink Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 8:11 AM To: Cross project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? Hi Surely anyone trying to use Java 8 before June is a bleeding edge user, so what is wrong with M6/M7? Any

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-20 Thread Fred Bricon
+1000 Worst case scenario, all Java 8 feature patches should be made available from a unique p2 repo Le 20 mars 2014 15:51, Konstantin Komissarchik konstantin.komissarc...@oracle.com a écrit : I am wondering if we should do a limited SR release to pickup Java 8 patches. As it stands, Eclipse

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-20 Thread Pascal Rapicault
I can't agree more. On 20/03/2014 8:40 AM, Fred Bricon wrote: +1000 Worst case scenario, all Java 8 feature patches should be made available from a unique p2 repo Le 20 mars 2014 15:51, Konstantin Komissarchik konstantin.komissarc...@oracle.com mailto:konstantin.komissarc...@oracle.com a

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-20 Thread Mickael Istria
It tend to agree with it. Java 8 is something big that we (as tool developers in general) should encourage people to adopt. So it's IMO worth making an exception to the release train and try to get a SR3 that supports it Java 8 out-of-the-box. -- Mickael Istria Eclipse developer at JBoss, by

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-20 Thread Markus Knauer
I had this thought, too, and it has been brought up in some discussions at EclipseCon. It should be in our interest to make it as easy as possible for our users to get the integration with Java 8. *If* we decide for a SR3, what would be the deliverables? An update of the packages only? Or only

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-20 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Markus Knauer Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:46 AM To: Eclipse Cross Project Issues; EPP Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? I had this thought, too, and it has been brought up in some discussions at EclipseCon

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-20 Thread Markus Keller
-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [ mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Markus Knauer Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 9:46 AM To: Eclipse Cross Project Issues; EPP Developer Mailing List Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? I had

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8?

2014-03-20 Thread Miles Parker
, 'EPP Developer Mailing List' epp-...@eclipse.org Date:2014-03-20 18:13 Subject:Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Kepler SR3 for Java 8? Sent by:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org From the perspective of best user experience, we should update the Kepler