On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:54 AM, ianG wrote:
>> ...
>
> Banks will say that international wires are irreversible, but it isn't true.
> If the banks cooperate they can do a return of funds. It all depends...
>
This was kind of interesting: "According to Li, the larger problem [of
Chinese car theft
From: "ianG"
>Banks will say that international wires are irreversible, but it isn't
>true. If the banks cooperate they can do a return of funds. It all
>depends...
Banks are not bound by natural laws.
Try to convince your depository bank that the bank which missed its
midnight deadline on
On Jul 22, 2013, at 7:48 , ianG wrote:
> On 22/07/13 02:27 AM, James A. Donald wrote:
>> On 2013-07-22 9:01 AM, Randall Webmail wrote:
>>>
>>> [SNIP]
>>> To derive a DES OTA key, an attacker starts by sending a binary SMS to
>>> a target device. The SIM does not execute the improperly signed OT
On 22/07/13 23:33 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
* James A. Donald:
This not all that fatal, as the money is traceable, but it means that
the financial institution needs an apparatus to reverse cell phone
transactions, and that cell phone money is therefore soft on the may
scale.
This has been the
* James A. Donald:
> This not all that fatal, as the money is traceable, but it means that
> the financial institution needs an apparatus to reverse cell phone
> transactions, and that cell phone money is therefore soft on the may
> scale.
This has been the case for giro payments for a while, and
Also here:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2013/07/21/sim-cards-have-finally-been-hacked-and-the-flaw-could-affect-millions-of-phones/
On 22/07/13 02:27 AM, James A. Donald wrote:
On 2013-07-22 9:01 AM, Randall Webmail wrote:
[SNIP]
To derive a DES OTA key, an attacker starts by sendin
> A number of projects have been launched to use cell phones as a money
> device, a smart card. I am pretty sure if your malware can send sms, it can
> transfer funds.
>
> This not all that fatal, as the money is traceable, but it means that the
> financial institution needs an apparatus to revers
On 2013-07-22 9:01 AM, Randall Webmail wrote:
[SNIP]
To derive a DES OTA key, an attacker starts by sending a binary SMS to
a target device. The SIM does not execute the improperly signed OTA
command, but does in many cases respond to the attacker with an error
code carrying a cryptographic s
[SNIP]
To derive a DES OTA key, an attacker starts by sending a binary SMS to a target
device. The SIM does not execute the improperly signed OTA command, but does in
many cases respond to the attacker with an error code carrying a cryptographic
signature, once again sent over binary SMS. A r
