On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Jeremey Barrett wrote:
> BTW, most and probably all of the major mail clients out there will do
> STARTTLS *for SMTP*. It's a matter of servers offering it and clients
> being configured to actually use it. It'd be nice if they always used it
> if it's available, but right no
"Steven M. Bellovin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>While I generally am on board with this, I can see a situation where the
>>encryption overhead [and complexity] may be excessive [underpowered mail
>>servers administered by beginners] compared to the gains.
>>
>
> The primary use of STARTLS for
At 11:25 PM 10/1/02 -0400, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
>
>I'm at a speech by Terry Essex, CTO of Essex Corp. He worked on optical
>computing at the NSA for a long time.
>
>"the first computer to crack enigma was optical"
In one of the historical books about crypto, there's a method
described involving
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Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 10:04:03AM -0500, Jeremey Barrett wrote:
>
>>BTW, most and probably all of the major mail clients out there will do
>>STARTTLS *for SMTP*. It's a matter of servers offering it and clients
>>being configured to actually use it. It'd be nice if
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 02:56:39PM -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
| >While I generally am on board with this, I can see a situation where the
| >encryption overhead [and complexity] may be excessive [underpowered mail
| >servers administered by beginners] compared to the gains.
|
| The primary
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Greg Rose writes
:
>At 01:30 AM 10/2/2002 -0400, John S. Denker wrote:
>>"R. A. Hettinga" wrote:
>>...
>> > "the first computer to crack enigma was optical"
>>1) Bletchley Park used optical sensors, which were (and
>>still are) the best way to read paper tape at hig
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Saylor writes:
>Hi
>
>( 02.10.02 12:50 -0500 ) Jeremey Barrett:
>> but it's always better to encrypt than not, even if no additional
>> trust is gained.
>
>While I generally am on board with this, I can see a situation where the
>encryption overhead [and comple
Hi
( 02.10.02 12:50 -0500 ) Jeremey Barrett:
> but it's always better to encrypt than not, even if no additional
> trust is gained.
While I generally am on board with this, I can see a situation where the
encryption overhead [and complexity] may be excessive [underpowered mail
servers administer
--On Wednesday, 02 October, 2002 10:54 -0500 Jeremey Barrett
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Udhay Shankar N wrote:
>| At 10:04 AM 10/2/02 -0500, Jeremey Barrett wrote:
>|
>|> Amusingly, virtually none of them support STARTLS on any other protocol.
>|> :) IMAP and POP are almost all supported only
Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
| On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 10:04:03AM -0500, Jeremey Barrett wrote:
|
|>BTW, most and probably all of the major mail clients out there will do
|>STARTTLS *for SMTP*. It's a matter of servers offering it and clients
|>being configured to actually use it. It'd be nice if t
At 01:30 AM 10/2/2002 -0400, John S. Denker wrote:
>"R. A. Hettinga" wrote:
>...
> > "the first computer to crack enigma was optical"
>1) Bletchley Park used optical sensors, which were (and
>still are) the best way to read paper tape at high speed.
>You can read about it in the standard accounts,
Udhay Shankar N wrote:
| At 10:04 AM 10/2/02 -0500, Jeremey Barrett wrote:
|
|> Amusingly, virtually none of them support STARTLS on any other protocol.
|> :) IMAP and POP are almost all supported only on dedicated SSL ports
|> (IMAPS, POP3S). Argh.
|
| I use Eudora, as I'm very comfortable with i
At 10:04 AM 10/2/02 -0500, Jeremey Barrett wrote:
>Specifically, Mozilla, Outlook, Outlook Express, Netscape (all the way
>back to 4.7x at least), Evolution, and Eudora all support STARTTLS
>(again, for SMTP). I imagine there are others that do as well.
>
>Amusingly, virtually none of them suppor
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On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 10:04:03AM -0500, Jeremey Barrett wrote:
> BTW, most and probably all of the major mail clients out there will do
> STARTTLS *for SMTP*. It's a matter of servers offering it and clients
> being configured to actually use it. It'd be nice if they always used it
> if it's ava
Bill Stewart wrote:
|
| If your organization is an ISP, the risks are letting them
| handle your email at all (especially with currently proposed
| mandatory eavesdropping laws), and STARTTLS provides a
| mechanism for direct delivery that isn't as likely to be blocked
| by anti-spamming restricti
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At 09:05 AM 10/01/2002 -0700, Major Variola (ret) wrote:
>So yes Alice at ABC.COM sends mail to Bob at XYZ.COM and
>the SMTP link is encrypted, so the bored upstream-ISP netops
>can't learn anything besides traffic analysis.
>But once inside XYZ.COM, many unauthorized folks could
>intercept Bob's
"R. A. Hettinga" wrote:
...
> "the first computer to crack enigma was optical"
> "the first synthetic-aperture-radar processor was optical"
> "but all these early successes were classified -- 100 to 200 projects,
> and I probably know of less than half."
>
> --> Do these claims compute?! is this
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